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CIVIL WAR II America’s new cold war
Self ^ | 2012 | Steve Newton

Posted on 12/05/2012 4:24:06 PM PST by Steve Newton

After a contentious election sometimes emotions run high. The winners are jubilant and the losers are despondent. This time it’s different. After 4 years of an “us against them” policy this nation has never been as divided as we are now since the first civil war. What may have been a deliberate policy to win an election may well transform into a monster that will devour us all.

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It would seem that the country has now entered into a “cold” civil war© and if we’re not very careful it could turn hot very quickly. We now have more people on the government teat than people paying taxes and as our forefathers surmised, this is a recipe for disaster. With one party promising everything from free health care, free phones, free food, open borders etc, they will never lose another election. People are just too short sighted to understand that there is no “free” ride in life.

In other words, we have the givers and the takers, with a majority of takers, and a political regime that uses this to its advantage. As more and more illegal immigration occurs this imbalance will widen and tensions will only get worse. The givers will eventually stop giving because nothing they do will work for them anymore. Neither the soap box nor the ballot box will be able to change where we are now headed because we have reached the point of no return.

The producers will either stop producing or go the extra mile and boycott purchases from people that supported this regime. (See attachment A) Elections have consequences and many say stop doing business with those that support Marxist policies.

Eventually the system will collapse under its own weight and the takers will have no more to take—and at this point they will become angry. They did everything the “government” told them to do but suddenly the food stamps are no good and the free phones won’t work because there is no more money.

For years we have allowed the work ethic to deteriorate, along with our moral and ethical compasses. Our colleges and universities teach junk courses that have absolutely nothing to do with real life and then we wonder why our children with degrees cannot get a job. All of us are at fault over this and we will all pay the price. (And it won’t be in dollars)

Political correctness has run amok and it has taken our common sense with it. We celebrate perversion then sit back and wonder why the perverted prey on us. We champion diversity at the expense of cohesion and we allow our enemies within our gates for the cause of religious tolerance. A once proud and noble news media has turned into a propaganda machine.

In the midst of everything that is going on it is a miracle that we still produce any children that love their country and God almighty. But they are now a minority who sometimes face ridicule for their beliefs.

The tipping point is near. The American cold civil war with itself will someday soon turn hot and we will all wonder how it happened and what we could have done about it.

Can we prevent this? It would take a monumental effort from the ground up and may even be generational. And it will probably not occur until after things are decided in blood.

We are in desperate need of God and a leader that can unite us and not divide us. A leader that can explain to the masses the simple facts of an empty check book and promote the work ethic this country was founded on.

The cold civil war is here; it began a long time ago and we are losing this war when we didn’t even know we should have been fighting. Whether it can be stopped from becoming hot now depends on God.

A. As the left is so found of say, elections have consequences. They are also good at boycotts or attempted boycotts. So it has been suggested we should now fight fire with fire. Let 50% of Americans who voted left support the leftist companies and corporations. I no longer want my own dollars used against me in the destruction of this nation. With lots of help I have put together a list. Feel free to add to it and then take action:

1. Probably the worst of all—The Tide Foundation and the Tides Center. Over the course of its 33 year history, the Tides network has given hundreds of millions of dollars to anti-free enterprise groups, gun control groups, anti-private property groups, abortion rights groups, homosexual groups, groups engaged in voter fraud, anti-military groups, and organizations that seek to destroy America’s constitutional basis. All told, over 100 leftist organizations have received funding from one of the two Tides groups. It has become a clearing house, (some would say money laundering), for funds donated by people that want to remain “anonymous” when donating to far left groups.

2. The Heinz Foundation. Lead by John Kerry’s wife and created by the Heinz food empire funnel millions of dollars to the Tide Foundation.

3. Soros has also donated 7 million to the Tide Foundation and his Open Society Institute funds many radical groups still today. He is right up there with the Tide Foundation in his funding of radical far left groups.

4. The Ford Foundation and the Ford motor company give tens of millions to Tide.

5. Other large Tides donors include: The Rockefeller Foundation, the Pew Charitable Trust, the James Irvine Foundation, Citigroup Foundation, Kellogg Foundation, Hearst Foundation, Fannie Mae Foundation, JP Morgan Foundation, Bank America Foundation, Chase Manhattan Foundation, Verizon Foundation, David & Lucile Packard Foundation, AT & T Foundation, Bell Atlantic Foundation, Citicorp Foundation, ARCO Foundation, US West Foundation, John D. MacArthur Foundation, ALCOA Foundation, Richard King Mellon Foundation, and the Carnegie Foundation and Hewlett Packard.

One way to reduce the power of this alliance would be to boycott the products and services these organizations are involved with such as Ford automobiles, Heinz food products, Bank of America, Kellogg cereals, HP computers, Oreo cookies, (Kraft), Google, J.C. Penny, Ben and Jerry’s etc. While these foundations sometimes no longer have any financial association with the corporations that originally endowed them, you can be sure that if enough of us wrote letters and boycotted their products that we could probably influence their behavior. If not if would make them pay a price for their anti American stance.

Time to heat up the cold civil war with cold hard cash.

Some information has been extracted from the sources listed below.

onemillionmoms.com/issues/oreo-supports-gay-pride/

www.westernjournalism.com › Exclusive Reports

reporting.sunlightfoundation.com/.../progressive-groups-threat

www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=589

1 posted on 12/05/2012 4:24:09 PM PST by Steve Newton
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To: Steve Newton

That’s a confusingly mixed analogy. Unless maybe I compare it to the pause between secession and Ft. Sumter. No, that doesn’t work.

What the hell is a cold civil war? It makes no sense.


2 posted on 12/05/2012 4:28:56 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Steve Newton

The way it works, or will work, is we revert to a barter economy. Everything is done “on the side” and you don’t report any of it to the government. Just don’t get greedy, do only what you need to do to get by. It’s human nature. It’s how the average Russian got by in the USSR.

Tykwando, Latrina, Raetheon and Femali with their 0bamaphones are on their own.


3 posted on 12/05/2012 4:30:02 PM PST by henkster ("The people who count the votes decide everything." -Joseph Stalin)
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To: Tublecane

Cold war no fighting

But enemies

Cold civil war is no fighting but still enemies.

But this time we fight with our dollars


4 posted on 12/05/2012 4:33:21 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Steve Newton

because of forced govt confiscation and redistribution to pet demographic groups, the love of many will grow cold.

and the people getting all the free stuff confiscated from others have no love for those it was taken from.


5 posted on 12/05/2012 4:33:56 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: henkster

Indeed yes.

The people of many countries have had to go this route.


6 posted on 12/05/2012 4:35:10 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Secret Agent Man

You know that is a very good way to put it.


7 posted on 12/05/2012 4:36:43 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Steve Newton

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” - Thomas Jefferson.

This needed to happen a long time ago.

Because it hasn’t, the cost in blood will be far beyond what we can bear.

But then, given we’ve murdered an entire generation of Americans in the womb - the Judgment for Slavery in the Civil War makes me shudder at what blood God is going to require of this wayward nation.


8 posted on 12/05/2012 4:37:44 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: henkster

Oh I believe their will be fighting if the current path continues....

Too many of us ex-military guys swore an allegiance to the constitution to protect against foriegn or domestic enemies....

Not even close to that point yet, but watching.....


9 posted on 12/05/2012 4:38:24 PM PST by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: nevergore

“Too many of us ex-military guys swore an allegiance to the constitution to protect against foriegn or domestic enemies....

Not even close to that point yet, but watching.....”

Sorry to tell you but the Constitution is a dead letter. Any viability it still had was killed by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court last summer. I do not see any branch of government recognizing any restraint on its activities as against any other branch, and NO branch of government recognizes ANY restraints on its power over the individual.


10 posted on 12/05/2012 4:42:06 PM PST by henkster ("The people who count the votes decide everything." -Joseph Stalin)
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To: Steve Newton

I think my reaction is more like absolute disgust that this country which I have cherished for most of my life could elect then re-elect such an obvious Marxist clown.

We have reached the point where there are not enough people who actually see through the media lies to win. We have been savaged and inundated with leftist propaganda so long that it is really really working.


11 posted on 12/05/2012 4:42:55 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: Steve Newton

Exactly my thinking.

Liquidated my cow/calf operation. Kept enough on my home place to feed my immediate family and sell calves for cash to friends.

None go to feed the Obamabots up north. My beef will not keep a moocher alive.


12 posted on 12/05/2012 4:42:55 PM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: henkster

Maybe

But we are not done yet.

It is ——very scary to see the amount of money and the organizations that the Tide foundation support. (And Soros)

We need to cut them off from their money


13 posted on 12/05/2012 4:45:11 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: eartick

Well said.


14 posted on 12/05/2012 4:47:14 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Steve Newton
With one party promising everything from free health care, free phones, free food, open borders etc, they will never lose another election.

That's what they said 60 or 70 years ago about FDR. It didn't work out that way.

People are just too short sighted to understand that there is no “free” ride in life.

Over time, life has a way of teaching people otherwise.

15 posted on 12/05/2012 4:49:33 PM PST by x
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To: yarddog

I know my FRiend. I know.

But we need to try something. Money may be the key. We have tried everything else—Ballot box -— Soap box.


16 posted on 12/05/2012 4:49:48 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: x

Yes. But I wonder how many times FDR COULD have been elected?

But I guess things do work out in the end. I pray they do this time.


17 posted on 12/05/2012 4:51:47 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Steve Newton
We need to cut them off from their money

Can't happen. We need to cut them off from their influence.

18 posted on 12/05/2012 4:52:03 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

I agree but I think money IS influence. For the most part. Who would listen to an old Soros if he was broke?


19 posted on 12/05/2012 4:55:16 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Steve Newton

IT is a cold civil war, I’ve heard cases where it is like brother against brother, father against son and so on. Myself, I knew one guy for 40 years since I was six, we’ve unfriended each other, he is a kool-aid, OBummer supporter. It really runs that deep. BTW, look up Civil War Two Cube.


20 posted on 12/05/2012 4:57:10 PM PST by Nowhere Man (It is about time we re-enact Normandy, at the shores of the Potomac.)
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To: Steve Newton

There was too fighting in the Cold War, directly and by proxy. Using the term “cold war” the way you do is a rhetorical cheat. You would have to alter the meaning of war too much in order to receive the benefit of the old definition. Maybe that’s how Orwell originally meant it, but then he should have taken advice from his own essay “Politics and the English Language.”

By the way, if merely having enemies but not fighting is a cold war than the entire history of mankind is one giant cold war.


21 posted on 12/05/2012 4:58:40 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: semaj

BUMP FOR LATER


22 posted on 12/05/2012 4:59:12 PM PST by semaj
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To: Nowhere Man

Yeah

It’s sad. And I think O did this on purpose. He has devided us for sure.

Civil War two cube? Will do my friend.


23 posted on 12/05/2012 5:00:25 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Steve Newton
We have $16+ trillion in debt with a $1+ trillion deficit. What will happen... will happen.

The only thing conservatives have working for them is that socialism doesn't work. Centralized egalitarism will backfire, and the democrats will have to deal with the fallout caused by their pyrrhic political victories.

The best way to act is to focus on the self, family, church, and community. Increase your savings, diversify away from the dollar, and maintain your self-reliance.

The democrats' political strength is also their weakness.

24 posted on 12/05/2012 5:02:10 PM PST by Cheap_Hessian (I am the Grim FReeper.)
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To: Tublecane

Thank you for your opinion.

But what do you think of the concept?

You miss the whole point of the article if you concentrate on one small item.


25 posted on 12/05/2012 5:04:27 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Steve Newton

http://westernrifleshooters.blogspot.com/2010/07/bracken-cw2-cube-mapping-meta-terrain.html

Wow.


26 posted on 12/05/2012 5:07:12 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Steve Newton; Jack Black
The Civil War Two Cube was made by one of our Freeper's, Matt Bracken, who did his book series, "Enemies Foreign and Domestic." BTW, I'd ping Matt as per FR etiquette but I can't remember his user name.

This needs a CWII ping.
27 posted on 12/05/2012 5:12:15 PM PST by Nowhere Man (It is about time we re-enact Normandy, at the shores of the Potomac.)
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To: Nowhere Man

Then my hat is off to Matt

” We all hope and pray that there will never be a second “hot civil war” in America, instead of merely the “cold civil war” we are engaged in today. “


28 posted on 12/05/2012 5:16:25 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Steve Newton
It's about truth and ideas. If people were generally educated, the money from Soros wouldn't matter. Maybe natural law will educate the people, and maybe they could learn many of life's lessons, like:

1) There is no free lunch
2) Being a US citizen has responsibilities
3) Higher taxes will likely bring in less revenue
4) The multiplier effect in government spending is negative
5) Organized labor and minimum wage laws increase unemployment
6) Subsidized businesses are often corrupt and always inefficient
7) Private property is the key to liberty and economic vibrance
8) Increasing progressive taxes and regulation hurts social mobility
9) The US is not in a closed system, global competition will force us to work harder and be more innovative to just maintain our quality of living
10) Inflation is destructive
11) Demand is limitless, but supply is scarce
12) Negative interest bonds make no sense
13) Real trickle up economics happens when individuals are productive, creative, and prudent
14) If you manage your money well, you will get more

29 posted on 12/05/2012 5:22:22 PM PST by Cheap_Hessian (I am the Grim FReeper.)
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To: Steve Newton

Touché. I guess FDR pretty much was President for Life. Hard to see that happening for anyone else, though.


30 posted on 12/05/2012 5:22:56 PM PST by x
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To: x

I pray not my FRiend. I pray not.


31 posted on 12/05/2012 5:26:55 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Nowhere Man; Travis McGee
I think I've asked Travis about this before, but isn't there an error in the bullet points listing the six sides or "faces" of the cube? Everything tracks the diagram logically but the rural and urban (near and far) faces, which the bullet points appear to show reversed.

What say y'all?

32 posted on 12/05/2012 5:27:31 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Agreed.

And a very very nice list by the way.


33 posted on 12/05/2012 5:28:05 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Steve Newton

I agree, starve the beast.


34 posted on 12/05/2012 5:29:09 PM PST by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Charles Martel

Uh

Hummmmmm


35 posted on 12/05/2012 5:32:30 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Charles Martel

Yeah, it’s a mistake, but it’s the version that’s all over the internet. Now I look at it like the intentional errors map makers incorporate. It shows if folks are paying attentino. Really, the cube is just notional, so folks should just “get it” at a glance, before discovering the error.

I drew a pencil sketch, and another blogger created it, and the error was born.


36 posted on 12/05/2012 5:38:07 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Still very impressive Travis


37 posted on 12/05/2012 5:41:39 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Charles Martel

Some essays by Matt Bracken

http://www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/links.htm

Benghazi’s Smoking Gun? Only President Can Give Cross-Border Authority
When The Music Stops: How America’s Cities May Explode In Violence
Bracken’s review of Joseph P. Martino’s “Resistance to Tyranny”
The CW2 Cube: Mapping the Meta-terrain of Civil War Two
Trapping Feral Pigs, and Other Parables of Modern Life
An interview with Matt Bracken about “Castigo Cay”
Gangster Government And Sakharov’s Immunity
“In praise of duplexed AR-15 magazines”
I will not submit. I will never surrender.
How Islam will be brought to an end
Just a working man with his tools
Fiction: “Professor Raoul X”
What I Saw At The Coup
“Night Fighting 101”
Arm Thy Neighbor

http://www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/links.htm

These are called “The Bracken Anthology” on Kindle, and the collection costs a buck.
Or, just go to the link and click them one at a time for free.


38 posted on 12/05/2012 5:45:17 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Steve Newton

Bookmark


39 posted on 12/05/2012 5:47:25 PM PST by sport
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To: Steve Newton

Maybe now that I know how to use Paint, I might try to paste in a fix.


40 posted on 12/05/2012 5:47:35 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Smile

Understood. I have a lot of trouble with photo’s myself


41 posted on 12/05/2012 5:56:44 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Travis McGee
Simplified version, without superfluous explanation of corners and sides.

And without the error about urban/rural.


42 posted on 12/05/2012 6:05:41 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Steve Newton

I couldn’t figure out how to do urban/rural on the slant, so I didn’t “fix” the image, just eliminated the explanatory lists.


43 posted on 12/05/2012 6:07:24 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Well

As you say the concept is easily understandable as is.


44 posted on 12/05/2012 6:11:46 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Travis McGee
I dwell on the cube perhaps too much, but often come up against some definition roadblocks:

What is considered rural, urban?
Arbitrary population density or population center size?
What is richer? I suppose that could mean being debt free or making over $100k/yr, but like rural/urban, the definition eludes me.

45 posted on 12/05/2012 6:12:01 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Steve Newton

fer later


46 posted on 12/05/2012 6:17:29 PM PST by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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To: Steve Newton

fer later


47 posted on 12/05/2012 6:19:00 PM PST by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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To: Steve Newton

The Ford Foundation and the Ford Motor Company are two different entities.


48 posted on 12/05/2012 6:22:20 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: SVTCobra03

Yes Indeed

But the sources I quoted stated that they both give money to Tide.

Yeah I know. Hurts.

Course it hurts that Chevy is now “Government Motors”


49 posted on 12/05/2012 6:24:36 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: SVTCobra03

Here’s the link

http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusive-investigative-reports/who-funds-the-radical-left-in-america/


50 posted on 12/05/2012 6:26:36 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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