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Boehner tells Obama put deal on the table, amid growing caucus discontent
Fox News.com ^ | December 5, 2012

Posted on 12/05/2012 5:10:14 PM PST by Kaslin

House Speaker John Boehner emerged Wednesday from a meeting with fellow Republican congressional leaders and urged President Obama to meet face to face on solving the country’s looming fiscal crisis or send a deal to Congress on which both chambers can agree.

“We need a response from the White House,” said Boehner, who sent a proposal Monday to the White House. “We can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. … If the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline, I think he's got an obligation to send one to the Congress.”

The president and congressional Republicans are at a stalemate on how to check the country’s rising $16 trillion debt and to reduce its budget deficits, which have topped $1 trillion for several straight years. The president has so far insisted on raising tax rates for the country’s highest earners and appears willing to make cuts to entitlement programs. Republicans have called for changes to the tax code to boost revenue, instead of tax rate increases, along with bigger spending cuts.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boehner; caucus

1 posted on 12/05/2012 5:10:17 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Is the Constitution not clear, Mr. Crybaby?


2 posted on 12/05/2012 5:11:34 PM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Kaslin

He’s gonna’ cave in, so why doesn’t Boner cut the crap and cave already. What a jerk! Are we supposed to be impressed by his pre-cave-in dance? Cave already . . . we know what you are, Boner!


3 posted on 12/05/2012 5:12:08 PM PST by laweeks
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To: Kaslin

It is clear that Obama does not respect Boehner and that Boehner has no idea what to do.


4 posted on 12/05/2012 5:12:33 PM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

They need to adjourn for the Christmas holidays:o)


5 posted on 12/05/2012 5:13:44 PM PST by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: Kaslin

The best the Republicans could do for the American public, is to go home immediately. turn the lights out.


6 posted on 12/05/2012 5:16:33 PM PST by Wisconsinlady ("Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves")
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To: Kaslin

The problem is to stop the spending, not kill our own.


7 posted on 12/05/2012 5:16:56 PM PST by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: mtnwmn

John wants this wrapped up quickly so he can check on his Swiss bank accounts.


8 posted on 12/05/2012 5:16:56 PM PST by COBOL2Java (GOPe: Already prepping for their 2016 loss - Jeb Bush!)
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To: Kaslin

Bendover Boehner readies his jar of Vaseline.


9 posted on 12/05/2012 5:17:47 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: laweeks

Obviously you didn’t read the article. If you had read it you would have seen that Boehner is strictly against raising taxes and you would have read that there are some republicans in name only who find nothing wring with raising taxes


10 posted on 12/05/2012 5:17:57 PM PST by Kaslin ( One Big Ass Mistake America (Make that Two))
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To: Kaslin

I just don’t get this ridiculous hating on Boehner. If someone has an alternative strategy, I’d love to hear it.


11 posted on 12/05/2012 5:22:52 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: Kaslin
*sigh* the Stupid Party, now and forever.
12 posted on 12/05/2012 5:24:08 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Kaslin

IMO..

1) Walk away. Go over the false crisis called the “ciff.”
2) Bend Barry over hard on the debt ceiling.

Obama will cave. He can’t afford to have his 47% pay any taxes and he certainly can’t afford for anyone to find out we can in fact live if DC is shut down.

Call the bluff Boehner. You’re getting blamed no matter what happens. Make Obama bite the pillow.


13 posted on 12/05/2012 5:24:24 PM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: DManA

There isn’t a damn thing Boehner can do. The Dems have the Senate AND the Presidency. The President is a pr*** and doesn’t give a damn.


14 posted on 12/05/2012 5:27:19 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

He did give them feedback..called it fairy dust I think.


15 posted on 12/05/2012 5:30:02 PM PST by alamogal
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To: Sacajaweau

BS


16 posted on 12/05/2012 5:30:13 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: Arthurio

I basically said the same thing. ANYONE in Boehner’s position would be in the exact same position with the exact same choices....which he doesn’t make...Same ole....kill the messenger.


17 posted on 12/05/2012 5:30:43 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: ncalburt

So what should Boehner do? And what should he present that the Senate will sign AND the President will sign.


18 posted on 12/05/2012 5:33:44 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau
There isn’t a damn thing Boehner can do. The Dems have the Senate AND the Presidency.

I'm old enough to remember when the Democrat Party ran the entire U.S. government structure from the House of Representatives.

For 40 years.

19 posted on 12/05/2012 5:34:16 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: Sacajaweau

He could wage a half way competent P.R. campaign. That’s what politicians are supposed to be good at after all.

The way he’s going Republicans will end up hating him and Americans will hate the Republicans.


20 posted on 12/05/2012 5:34:38 PM PST by DManA
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To: COBOL2Java

Your warm

Bonehead is head of the K street lobbyist front man party !
He is worried his pals and former aides running the K street firms won’t get there CUT of our tax dollars !

Boner , Cantor, and Mccarthy despise us and only care about finding there
K ST pals who keep them on power !
So we have no one in DC wanting to stop spending just how to best shove it down our throats !

Bonehead and crooked cohorts needs to driven out now !


21 posted on 12/05/2012 5:35:40 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: Kaslin

Boehner’s problem is that he has been drawn into an asymmetrical battle.

He is debating parliamentary procedure with the President. This is a losing proposition from the start!

He needs to continuously call upon Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer for THEIR proposals and IGNORE President Nil!

Mitch McConnell should do the same for Harry Reid.

Put it on the table each and every day that we are beyond 4 years without Reid passing a budget.

Barry will jump, twitch and complain....but IGNORE him! Call upon the Democrat Legislators to get about the business of the budget....

Force President Nil to veto the result!


22 posted on 12/05/2012 5:36:11 PM PST by steve in DC
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To: M. Thatcher

No deal can pass without the House. Period. He’s not in a good position, but he doesn’t have to fold, either.

There is a complete lack of articulating a position to the American people. Total lack of party organization and talking points.


23 posted on 12/05/2012 5:37:27 PM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Sacajaweau
So what should Boehner do?

IMO, walk.

Negotiation 101. Whoever goes first loses.

24 posted on 12/05/2012 5:37:27 PM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: Wisconsinlady

Wisconsinlady~:” The best the Republicans could do for the American public, is to go home immediately. turn the lights out.”

Agreed !

Put the proposal out on the table.
So far , its been smoke and mirrors just like OBamacare and :” You gotta pass it to find out what’s in it “.
So far , its been all press releases and sound bytes by mainstreammedia , and Obama campaigning.
He has no leadership, .. so he campaigns

The Fiscal Cliff was brought to you by Obama; it is kabuki theatre of politics , finances , and power .
He invented it , he referees the game , and he changes the rules as the game is played.
All the time he has the media backing him : unequivically .
He is a narcissist who is subject to tantrums if he doesn’t get his way.
He is devisive and proposes Class Warfare (right out of Saul Alinsky manual).
He wants unbridled power to run the country as he wishes , with the finances as he wishes , with no encomberances.
He believes that he is above the Constitution , the Bill of Rights , and above the Congress.

He is confronting the Constitutionally directed authority of the House for funding . This is the second time he has confronted the Constitution ; the first was Obamacare which is a tax which did not come out of the House .
It is time for the lights to go out !


25 posted on 12/05/2012 5:41:30 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Sacajaweau

Bonehead is desperate to Keep OUR TAX DOLLARS flowing to his pals on K street and there clients !
That’s how he seized power in 2000 !
All his former aides run K Street firms !
He threatens anyone to cut off campaign funds !
Bonehead runs the DC brothel that keeps the spending at this ridiculous pace !
Why do you think Obamacare is still funded ???
K street pals want it !
We were used in 2010 and we are needed anymore !
Wake up


26 posted on 12/05/2012 5:43:12 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: Sacajaweau

Bonehead is desperate to Keep OUR TAX DOLLARS flowing to his pals on K street and there clients !
That’s how he seized power in 2000 !
All his former aides run K Street firms !
He threatens anyone to cut off campaign funds !
Bonehead runs the DC brothel that keeps the spending at this ridiculous pace !
Why do you think Obamacare is still funded ???
K street pals want it !
We were used in 2010 and we are not needed anymore !
Wake up


27 posted on 12/05/2012 5:43:27 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: Kaslin
If you had read it you would have seen that Boehner is strictly against raising taxes

Horse hockey, Radar! Boehner HAS raised debt ceilings and done EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THE BUMBLING BOOB in our White House wants him to do. Mark my words . . . he WILL AGREE TO ANY AND ALL TAX INCREASES! Where have you been? On Boehner's campaign trail?

28 posted on 12/05/2012 5:44:14 PM PST by laweeks
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To: Kaslin

The propaganda blackguarding of the word “entitled”, “entitlement” is underway folks.

Bound, “free”, to earn, “labor”, camp, an income, “State Banking” “Insurance Fascist Riders”


29 posted on 12/05/2012 5:45:20 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Kaslin
Obviously you didn’t read the article. If you had read it you would have seen that Boehner is strictly against raising taxes and you would have read that there are some republicans in name only who find nothing wring with raising taxes

I used to defend Boehner, too. Obviously, you didn't read the article. Boehner is [purportedly] against raising tax rates, but cutting deductions will raise taxes, nonetheless.

He should be fighting against tax increases period.

30 posted on 12/05/2012 5:49:43 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: laweeks

Bonehead wants one thing and its to keep the tax dollars flowing to his cronies on K Street and nothing else !

He is there stooge bought and paid for !


31 posted on 12/05/2012 5:51:51 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: Kaslin

What John Boehner should be doing now is preparing his response to Obama’s proposal, which will be made two days before he leaves for Hawaii, to extend the 2011 agreement beyond January 1st.

That will allow Obama to golf and swim and enjoy his favorite ice cream cones on his $4-million vacation without looking like he’s deserting America while it’s left to go over the fiscal cliff alone.

If John Boehner just says no to Obama without explaining to the public why kicking the can down the road another time would destroy investors’ confidence that America can ever be trusted again, he will look like Scrooge right in the middle of all the Christmas festivities.

So John had better start practicing a good speech. Otherwise, Obama will add another recreational activity to his repertoire in Hawaii - blaming the Republicans for pushing America over the cliff when he himself was perfectly willing to avoid it.


32 posted on 12/05/2012 5:55:55 PM PST by Bluestocking
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To: BfloGuy

and how should he do that? Taxes will go up, automatically, if nothing is done.


33 posted on 12/05/2012 5:57:43 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: Sacajaweau
There isn’t a damn thing Boehner can do

The House should negotiate with the Senate, not the President.

Let Harry Reid deal with Obama. Boehner should be dealing with McConnell and Reid. Leave Obama on the outside until the Congress aligns on a compromise first.

Then let Obama have a whack at it.

Otherwise, Boehner is bringing Obama into Congressional deliberations, a place where Obama does not belong. All Boehner is doing is giving Obama a platform to look presidential, and letting Reid and the Senate off the hook.

-PJ

34 posted on 12/05/2012 6:04:43 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Diogenesis

As all our congressmen say “what constitution?”


35 posted on 12/05/2012 6:28:25 PM PST by dalebert
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To: Kaslin

Boehner’s problem is that he has been drawn into an asymmetrical battle.

He is debating parliamentary procedure with the President. This is a losing proposition from the start!

He needs to continuously call upon Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer for THEIR proposals and IGNORE President Nil!

Mitch McConnell should do the same for Harry Reid.

Put it on the table each and every day that we are beyond 4 years without Reid passing a budget.

Barry will jump, twitch and complain....but IGNORE him! Call upon the Democrat Legislators to get about the business of the budget....

Force President Nil to veto the result!


36 posted on 12/05/2012 6:32:32 PM PST by steve in DC
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To: DManA

When one can not fire the other, negotiation respect is earned.

Nobama may be stupid enough to really think he holds all the cards. Boehner may be stupid enough to think nobama holds all the cards.

The only way around this load of horse hockie is for enough House Pubbies to refuse to go along with any giving in.

Yeah the MSM and dems will find a way to put the blame on the Pubbies, so what. Its two years until 2014 mid-terms and the few sheeple who actually vote in mid-terms will have long forgotten who got blamed for Fiscal Cliff. Nobama on the otherhand will continue pissin off the 49% that did not vote for him to such a degree that 2010 will just be a resersal and he will guarantee a big House and Senate majority.

On the otherhand, if the House gives in THEY will be the ones pissin off the 49% and we all will walk away and let whoever wants to finish the wrecking.


37 posted on 12/05/2012 6:57:11 PM PST by X-spurt (Ted Cruz for President of the Republic of Texas)
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To: Sacajaweau

Bullshite! The House holds the checkbook! Nobama can not work around that simple fact.

This is like negotiating with your snotty nosed 16 yo who just wants and wants without a clue on how to pay for it. If you don’t stand your ground, get ready to pay.

The House can refuse to give in on spending and hold the real fat chip “debt ceiling” without significant spending cuts.

Even a blindman can see the dems are bluffing. Call it!


38 posted on 12/05/2012 7:07:28 PM PST by X-spurt (Ted Cruz for President of the Republic of Texas)
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To: Williams
There is a complete lack of articulating a position to the American people.

Bonehead doesn't even try to articulate the dangers of the Obama position. He's afraid to. He'd rather make nice.

39 posted on 12/05/2012 7:43:28 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Kaslin

Why can’t the speaker come out with something along the lines of the following, said in a happy, friendly, but forceful manner? He would be able to sound “nice” but at the same time point out the extravagance of the President’s trip, would be able to suggest that the President is being grumpy and petulant, but said in a very benign way.

He would be able to convey the phoniness of all of this running around screaming about doom and cliffs. He would have an ear to the points that Democrats didn’t pass a budget when they could. Here is what I would like to hear in a press conference from the Speaker of the House:

Ladies and Gentlemen:
There is not an emergency. This country has gone four years without a budget and we are still all walking around. If this were an emergency today, it would have been an emergency two months ago, yet it was barely brought up in the election cycle, certainly not as an emergency. When the President sent his budget, Democrats voted against it. When the Democrats held both houses and the Presidency they did not pass a budget.

The President has just been through a long and grueling campaign season which can wear on anybody’s nerves. He is about to take a (put in dollar amount and time period) vacation over Christmas, a generous gift from American taxpayers. We wish him a restful and revitalizing period of time with his lovely wife and beautiful daughters, after which he may return in January refreshed and renewed. At that time we may all feel more inclined to reasonableness. Until then, we, the Congress plan to pass yet another continuance and then we will go home and celebrate the holy days with our families and friends, to come back in a better frame of mind after the first of the year. Merry Christmas to the press corps and American people. See you in 2013. (no questions....he walks off).


40 posted on 12/05/2012 10:46:50 PM PST by Anima Mundi (Envy is just passive, lazy greed.)
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To: Bluestocking

>> What John Boehner should be doing now is preparing his ...

...resignation.


41 posted on 12/05/2012 10:54:15 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: COBOL2Java

Amen!


42 posted on 12/06/2012 5:56:23 AM PST by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: laweeks
Are we supposed to be impressed by his pre-cave-in dance?

I think we are.

BTW, I just saw some man-on-the-street interviews on Fox. The question? "What is the fiscal cliff?"

And, well... No one knew what it was. It's easy to see how the media controls the sheep. But I can't say the sheep don't deserve what they get.

Unfortunately, we have to go down with the ship too.

43 posted on 12/06/2012 6:00:34 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Arthurio; Kaslin

An alternative strategy would be to hold the fort, not vote for any tax increases and heavily cut the budget.

Everyone knows Boehner is going to cave. Also, he’s just purged serious tea partiers from major committees and has only his RINO toadies in the leadership and among the committee chairs.

People know from past experience not only that Boehner will cave, but that even while he’s posturing publicly before doing so closer to the practical deadline—he’s already secretly working with Obama to figure how he can get what Obama wants past his delegation.


44 posted on 12/06/2012 6:01:40 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: IamConservative
Obama will cave. He can’t afford to have his 47% pay any taxes and he certainly can’t afford for anyone to find out we can in fact live if DC is shut down. Call the bluff Boehner. You’re getting blamed no matter what happens. Make Obama bite the pillow.

I agree 100%. But there's a 1% chance of it happening. Call me a hopeless optimist.

Are they afraid of losing the layabout vote?

45 posted on 12/06/2012 6:03:04 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Kaslin

Can you hear us now?

46 posted on 12/06/2012 6:03:28 AM PST by McGruff (No New RINOs!)
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To: McGruff

What a crock of festering worms! Call the DIMs’ bluff. This BS is never-ending because it is always the-end-of-the-world if we don’t give in to the DIMs. Let’s go! Hold on tight! Enough of this repetitive BS.


47 posted on 12/06/2012 6:13:57 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Arthurio
and how should he do that?

By fighting to cut them. I know it's an almost-impossible battle, but he's not even trying. I've lost patience with him. He's accepted the Democrats' premises and is just negotiating how much we're willing to give up.

Shut 'er down!

48 posted on 12/06/2012 4:29:03 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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