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Heads reportedly roll at ATF over Fast & Furious
Examiner ^ | DECEMBER 4, 2012 | DAVE WORKMAN

Posted on 12/05/2012 11:17:30 PM PST by neverdem

Heads may roll at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives as four key officials involved in Operation Fast and Furious may be fired, two more demoted and one suspended and transferred, sources have confirmed to this column.

Word first leaked over the weekend about three of the reported firings at Town Hall and Breitbart, which curiously carried much the same text under two different bylines.

UPDATE: Fox News, quoting the Wall Street Journal, is reporting however that these dismissals are only recommendations from an agency review board. This column regrets any error.

Former Phoenix Special Agent in Charge William Newell, Assistant Special Agent in Charge George Gillett, and Special Agent in Charge of Operations in the West William McMahon all have been recommended for dismissal, and so apparently was Mark Chait, former assistant director for Field Operations, reliable sources told this column. Those recommended dismissals may be appealed. Demotions were reportedly handed out to former field supervisor David Voth and former Assistant Special Agent in Charge Jim Needles. Special Agent Hope McAllister was placed on unpaid leave and transferred. As this column noted, they were criticized for their roles in the operation by the Inspector General's report.

The WSJ story quoted David Laufman, attorney for Mr. Chait, insisting that "any adverse finding or recommendation by the (professional review board) would be utterly without merit." Attorneys for Newell and Gillett reportedly declined to comment to the newspaper, saying they had not yet received an official notification of the recommendation...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; batfe; batfeisajoke; corruption; democrats; fastandfurious; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; murdergate; obama
Idiot Boehner should have impeached Holder instead of the politically useless move of voting Holder in contempt of Congress. We need a new Speaker with some brains and guts.
1 posted on 12/05/2012 11:17:38 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

You simply cannot compromise with evil. Full stop.


2 posted on 12/05/2012 11:23:54 PM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: neverdem
We need a new Speaker with some brains and guts.

I second that.

3 posted on 12/05/2012 11:27:42 PM PST by Standing Wolf
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To: neverdem

Why would heads roll over a policy of arming your boss’s bosses.


4 posted on 12/05/2012 11:40:16 PM PST by Stentor (Shhhh!)
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To: neverdem
But, but.. Boehner didn't want to impeach Holder so the Republicans wouldn't lose the black vote. LOL! /s

Perhaps Holder's just purging the last of the non-ethnic, non-male, non-communist, non-gay employees.. Ya know, the ones WITH a conscience who feel demoralized by working for the new Anti-American DOJ. What remains are the ones who don't give a damn WHAT the agencies do, just so long as their children get free health care.

5 posted on 12/05/2012 11:41:13 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: neverdem

Why would they be fired for simply continuing a policy of the Bush administration?


6 posted on 12/05/2012 11:45:49 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: andyk

Did you forget your /sarc tag?


7 posted on 12/05/2012 11:54:55 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: neverdem
We need a bigger boa constrictor:


8 posted on 12/06/2012 12:09:40 AM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - V. Lenin)
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To: MestaMachine

F & F ping


9 posted on 12/06/2012 12:16:29 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: wastoute

“You simply cannot compromise with evil. Full stop.”

Here,here!!!! We will continue to lose until we acknowledge that Obama is evil, a committed liar, and a pawn for those that want to reduce the U.S.A to a substandard country. If we continue to pander to his whims while trying to take the high road, we are lost. You can’t negotiate with a liar. It is a futile task and only gives credibity to the liar, while at the same time lowers you to his level. Declare to all the Obama is EVIL, and have nothing to do with him!


10 posted on 12/06/2012 12:31:54 AM PST by 2010Freeper
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To: neverdem

Just more Kabuki Theater for the benefit of those that know not.


11 posted on 12/06/2012 12:41:30 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...
A distinction without a difference is a type of argument where one word or phrase is preferred to another, but results in no difference to the argument as a whole. THIS is a classic example of a distinction without a difference only it isn't words, it's people. The bosses remain the bosses and nothing will change except the underlings.


12 posted on 12/06/2012 3:08:56 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...
A distinction without a difference is a type of argument where one word or phrase is preferred to another, but results in no difference to the argument as a whole. THIS is a classic example of a distinction without a difference only it isn't words, it's people. The bosses remain the bosses and nothing will change except the underlings.


13 posted on 12/06/2012 3:09:57 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: MestaMachine
They are scattering the people who know something. I wonder how many will have "accidents" or "misfortune" in the line of duty or otherwise.

With no underlings to break ranks, the management is safe, all the way up the food chain.

14 posted on 12/06/2012 3:16:48 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Or how many have gone on to much more lucrative johs with obama donors.


15 posted on 12/06/2012 3:19:03 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: neverdem

Intentionally arming foreign terrorist groups should be punishable by at least serious prison time. There has been no justice yet.


16 posted on 12/06/2012 3:31:06 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: neverdem

Fired? How many are being extradited to stand trial in Mexico? That’s the correct response to unnumbered dead in a foreign country due to malice in office. Holder first.


17 posted on 12/06/2012 3:32:46 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: neverdem

Rolling... on the floor laughing?


18 posted on 12/06/2012 3:52:09 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: andyk

If they were, they wouldn’t be.

The Bush operations were all competently conducted stings. No matter how you slice F&F, it was a cynical game at best, a deeply nefarious plot at worst.


19 posted on 12/06/2012 3:55:28 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: neverdem
Idiot Boehner should have impeached Holder instead of the politically useless move of voting Holder in contempt of Congress. We need a new Speaker with some brains and guts B@LLS!

Fixed it for you

20 posted on 12/06/2012 3:56:22 AM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: MestaMachine

Could be that they have been rewarded for their silence. Still, folks who tell no tales vote Democrat (posthumously).


21 posted on 12/06/2012 4:06:10 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: muir_redwoods

I am surprized that the issue of knowingly arming the cartels with automatic weapons hasn’t been referred to ‘The Hague’ . This is international terrorism with admissions , but no accountability .


22 posted on 12/06/2012 4:12:13 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Obama ~ the sleeping commander-in-chief . Where was he when the cries for help were sent ?)
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To: wastoute

Boehner is on the team of evil. He is in the club.


23 posted on 12/06/2012 4:13:48 AM PST by bmwcyle (Women reelected Obama)
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To: bmwcyle

We all know the old saying, “The buck stops here”. Unfortunately those doing the firing are the very ones that need to be fired themselves. Holder and Dumbo are at the top of the pile and BOTH need to be gone.


24 posted on 12/06/2012 4:22:10 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: neverdem

Well I guess all of the “higher ups” in the agency all got their stories straight and now the lower “slugs” in the agency have to fall on their swords involuntary.

You just gotta love the chain of command. The buck always stops at the level that didn’t get its story right with the higher levels.


25 posted on 12/06/2012 4:23:53 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Progov

It is time to remove all the RINOs and all Democrats.


26 posted on 12/06/2012 5:06:53 AM PST by bmwcyle (Women reelected Obama)
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To: freedomfiter2
Intentionally arming foreign terrorist groups should be punishable by at least serious prison time. There has been no justice yet.

It's called "State Sponsored Terrorism" and is an Act of War; furthermore, it is the justification used by the Secretary of State for deposing foreign leaders.

27 posted on 12/06/2012 10:55:02 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: neverdem

28 posted on 12/06/2012 11:04:21 AM PST by Howie
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To: piytar

Nope, I just refuse to use them... :)


29 posted on 12/06/2012 11:41:51 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yep, just pointing that out via sarcasm :)


30 posted on 12/06/2012 11:42:58 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: neverdem

So the ones that gave the orders, fired the ones that followed them? If there is Justice in the Justice Department, they will take all those over the ones fired, and put them in prison for trial. 2000 counts of accessory to Murder is no laughing matter.


31 posted on 12/06/2012 12:22:24 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: neverdem
Heads may roll at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives as four key officials involved in Operation Fast and Furious may be fired, two more demoted and one suspended and transferred, sources have confirmed to this column.

Eric WithHolder and Barack Ubama still haven't paid the piper for their crimes in the coverup and gun running operation. Mexico ain't happy at it is America to blame. The stink from this crap rises to the very TOP of the Democrat party. Enough with the scapgoating those at lower authority. The White House claimed EXECUTIVE PRIVILEDGE in withholding information. Eric Holder gave false testimony under oath.

32 posted on 12/06/2012 12:49:42 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: neverdem

So Holder and Obama are immune? That’s racist!


33 posted on 12/06/2012 1:05:14 PM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: neverdem

It won’t count until Obama’s impeachment ping.


34 posted on 12/06/2012 3:35:25 PM PST by MercedesB (no comment)
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To: andyk

LOL!


35 posted on 12/06/2012 6:09:07 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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