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Skip to comments.U.S.-Approved Arms for Libya Rebels Fell Into Jihadisí Hands
Posted on 12/06/2012 12:59:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
.........................The United States, which had only small numbers of C.I.A. officers in Libya during the tumult of the rebellion, provided little oversight of the arms shipments. Within weeks of endorsing Qatars plan to send weapons there in spring 2011, the White House began receiving reports that they were going to Islamic militant groups. They were more antidemocratic, more hard-line, closer to an extreme version of Islam than the main rebel alliance in Libya, said a former Defense Department official.
The Qatari assistance to fighters viewed as hostile by the United States demonstrates the Obama administrations continuing struggles in dealing with the Arab Spring uprisings, as it tries to support popular protest movements while avoiding American military entanglements. Relying on surrogates allows the United States to keep its fingerprints off operations, but also means they may play out in ways that conflict with American interests.
To do this right, you have to have on-the-ground intelligence and you have to have experience, said Vali Nasr, a former State Department adviser who is now dean of the Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies, part of Johns Hopkins University. If you rely on a country that doesnt have those things, you are really flying blind. When you have an intermediary, you are going to lose control.
He said that Qatar would not have gone through with the arms shipments if the United States had resisted them, but other current and former administration officials said Washington had little leverage at times over Qatari officials. They march to their own drummer, said a former senior State Department official. The White House and State Department declined to comment....................
.....nearly a dozen current and former White House, diplomatic, intelligence, military and foreign officials, would speak only on the condition of anonymity for this article..............
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Obama leading from behind and then "concerned" that he can't control what happens. Right.
That the NYT is finally writing about this, means the truth is circulating and the implications are too big to bury.
The rebels are the Jihadis.
Meanwhile, Assad has filled Syrian bombs with lethal chemicals, while Hillary Clinton ponders over how many people will die before there is a successful political transition.
This quote is chilling to me.
“.........”Ultimately, what we should be thinking about is a political transition in Syria and one that should start as soon as possible,” Clinton said. “We believe their fall is inevitable. It is just a question of how many people have to die before that occurs.”......
The rebels are all jihadis. And in addition to getting these weapons, they probably have Libyan gas shells that they passed to the rebels in Syria. They will detonate them and blame Assad.
After all, Hillary the moron just told them, “if chemicals are used, we and NATO will intervene.” So now they know exactly what they need to do.
“how many people will die before there is a successful political transition.”
Transition to what? A Wahabbist moslem brotherhood nation like Egypt, that actually crucifies Christians, and makes Sharia official? I for one hope the rebels (Obamas friends) do not succeed.
And where did you hear that Assad had chemical bombs filled? Did that NBC news story quote a US Government official as saying that? An Official of a government that cannot wait for us to be involved in that civil war? That Offical said it? Why on earth would you trust them when they lie to us, almost constantly, and about everything.
That gas shell story is pure propaganda.
“The Syrian military is prepared to use chemical weapons against its own people and is awaiting final orders from President Bashar Assad, U.S. officials told NBC News on Wednesday.......
As recently as Tuesday, officials had said there was as yet no evidence that the process of mixing the “precursor” chemicals had begun. But Wednesday, they said their worst fears had been confirmed: The nerve agents were locked and loaded inside the bombs.....”
the United States demonstrates the Obama administrations continuing struggles in dealing with the Arab Spring uprisings, as it tries to support popular protest movements while avoiding American military entanglements...OH, just crap.
Bingo! Plus, a Syrian intervention will serve as a nice diversion from what Obama is doing to the US and get the drones to further support him as he tries to spend America into oblivion.
Looks like we might just find Saddamn’s WMDs.
Excellent point. Too bad there’s not some way to trace back to origin.
Anyone who thinks Stalin or Mao were the greatest horrors of the modern age hasn’t considered the US Democrat party.
“The real story, or the heavily sanitized version of the real story, is slowly dribbling out of the mainstream media. And there are a few things to keep in mind while reading through this New York Times piece.
1. Qatar has ties to Al Qaeda, runs Al Jazeera and was responsible for much of the Arab Spring.
2. The Qatari goal was to build up a network of Islamist states.
3. Qatar has a major financial presence in Europe and is turning into the a new and even more dangerous Saudi Arabia.
This situation is slowly leaking into the mainstream media, either because Obama Inc. is breaking with Qatar or looking to shift responsibility for actions that they knew Qatar was undertaking...................
.........The technical term for this is plausible deniability. The State Department at this point had every reason to know what Qatar would do. The terrorist ties there were well documented....
......How do you say Chutzpah in Arabic again?
So weve got Obama giving his blessing to Qatari arms shipments to Libya, which not only go to Islamist militias in Libya, but which are then used by Islamist militias in Syria and Mali. This makes Arms for Hostages look petty.
And the cover up had begun very early. This wasnt clean at all...........”
Aline’s. This isn’t even news anymore.
Slime’s. This isn’t even news anymore.
Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.
That was the POINT.
WSJ, NYT—buncha dumbasses.
F&F syndrome runs wild...
I’m waiting for them to finally admit that these came from Iraq. Bush was right...and its killing them knowing that.