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Why Obama and the Euro-Socialists Want Abortion and Somodite "Marriage"
December 6 | Katechon

Posted on 12/06/2012 4:27:18 AM PST by Katechon

Christian folks in the West are in the process of becoming a minority.

With the contraceptive pill, the profanation of marriage, and easy abortion, we don't reach anymore the threshold required for the reproduction of our civilization.

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Our Christian nation is self-aborting.

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It's a phenomenon akin to a civilizational suicide.

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40% of the russian army will be islamic in just a few years


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: abortion; bloggersandpersonal; christendom; demographics; globaljihad; homosexualagenda; islam; marxism; populationcontrol; radicalislam; theleft; trends; unholyalliance; vanity
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1 posted on 12/06/2012 4:27:28 AM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon

“Sodomite,” not “somodite.” Sorry.


2 posted on 12/06/2012 4:28:42 AM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon

Well, that too—they are body-obsessed (soma) to the detriment of the soul.


3 posted on 12/06/2012 4:31:09 AM PST by Houghton M.
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To: Houghton M.

our battle is not against flesh and blood... it is against the whole demonic authority structure (to put it more briefly than the bible does)


4 posted on 12/06/2012 4:34:01 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Houghton M.

HAHA! I probably plead guilty on that charge, to be honest.

I won’t miss Mass for a gym session, but I’ve always felt that the mind is an effect of the body. Of course, the soul is something else...

The way I feel — and I don’t claim it is the same for everyvody — is that my healthy body helps me keeping a clear mind, which helps me keeping my soul alive.


5 posted on 12/06/2012 4:37:39 AM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon
On July 25, 1968, Pope Paul VI issued an encyclical entitled HUMANAE VITAE. In it he warned of the problems that would arise from the approval of artificial contraception. Many catholics chose to ignore his warnings yet, to this day, the Catholic Church is the only christian church, that bans artificial contraception. Below, are the prophetic warnings issued by Pope Paul VI

Pope Paul VI made four rather general "prophecies" about what would happen if the Church's teaching on contraception were ignored.

Four Prophecies


Infidelity and moral decline

The Pope first noted that the widespread use of contraception would "lead to conjugal infidelity and the general lowering of morality." That there has been a widespread decline in morality, especially sexual morality, in the last 25 years, is very difficult to deny. The increase in the number of divorces, abortion, our-of-wedlock pregnancies, and venereal diseases should convince any skeptic that sexual morality is not the strong suit of our age.

There is no question that contraception is behind much of this trouble. Contraception has made sexual activity a much more popular option that it was when the fear of pregnancy deterred a great number of young men and women from engaging in premarital sexual intercourse. The availability of contraception has led them to believe that they can engage in premarital sexual activity "responsibly." But teenagers are about as responsible in their use of contraception as they are in all other phases of their lives--such as making their beds, cleaning their rooms and getting their homework done on time.

Lost Respect for Women

Paul VI also argued that "the man" will lose respect for "the woman" and "no longer (care) for her physical and psychological equilibrium" and will come to "the point of considering her as a mere instrument of selfish enjoyment and no longer as his respected and beloved companion." This concern reflects what has come to be known as a "personalist" understanding of morality. The personalist understanding of wrongdoing is based upon respect for the dignity of the human person. The Pope realized that the Church's teaching on contraception is designed to protect the good of conjugal love. When spouses violate this good, they do not act in accord with their innate dignity and thus they endanger their own happiness. Treating their bodies as mechanical instruments to be manipulated for their own purposes, they risk treating each other as objects of pleasure.

Abuse of Power

Paul VI also observed that the widespread acceptance of contraception would place a "dangerous weapon... in the hands of those public authorities who take no heed of moral exigencies." The history of the family-planning programs in the Third World is a sobering testimony to this reality. In Third World countries many people undergo sterilization unaware of what they are doing. The forced abortion program in China shows the stark extreme toward which governments will take population programs. Moreover, few people are willing to recognize the growing evidence that many parts of the world face not overpopulation, but underpopulation. It will take years to reverse the "anti-child" mentality now entrenched in many societies.


Unlimited Dominion

Pope Paul's final warning was that contraception would lead man to think that he had unlimited dominion over his own body. Sterilization is now the most widely used form of contraception in the U.S.; individuals are so convinced of their rights to control their own bodies that they do not hesitate to alter even their own physical make-up.

The desire for unlimited dominion over one's own body extends beyond contraception. The production of "test-tube babies" is another indication of the refusal to accept the body's limitations; so too are euthanasia and the use of organs transplanted from those who are "nearly" dead. We seek to adjust the body to our desires and timetables, rather than adjusting ourselves to its needs.

6 posted on 12/06/2012 4:37:48 AM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

P4L


7 posted on 12/06/2012 4:40:08 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Of course.

But the becoming of flesh and blood reveals the tactics of satan (the enemy of the Jewish people and of Christ.)

Socialism opens to way for islam, which is satan’s master-piece.


8 posted on 12/06/2012 4:41:56 AM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon

A call to Christians to witness for the good news of Jesus!


9 posted on 12/06/2012 4:43:56 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Katechon

Islam certainly seems to bear the practical crown for earthly effectiveness of a devilish religion, if it isn’t the theoretically most devilish religion possible.


10 posted on 12/06/2012 4:44:36 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Katechon

By using the word soddomite, I think you do not properly describe the group intended. The group has at least two divisions. These are Queers and Dykes. We are given the total as uniform but don’t know the break down in numbers.

My thought is that the dykes are using the Queers to promote the concept of marriage. That is dykes want the security of marriage and it is not all that big a deal to the average run of the mill Queer. Like the Jews using the Black surrogates to achieve civil rights, the Dykes are using the Queers in exactly the same manner


11 posted on 12/06/2012 4:48:05 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Biggirl

And witnessing simply means to tell about what you know of it. And God can teach you more than you’d think.

To cover a specific difficulty, so many people get hung up about hell, when they’d tell you in a heartbeat that this whole world’s going to hell. Christianity agrees with that. Where it disagrees with them is the means of combating that.


12 posted on 12/06/2012 4:48:12 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Indeed, evil is rampant.


13 posted on 12/06/2012 4:50:55 AM PST by FES0844
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To: NYer

Many for that Encyclical, sir. I will read it thoroughly.

Yet at first glance it looks like Pope Paul VI neglected to mention the islamization of Western civilization. Everything he mentions is true, yet that overall effect is even more dire.

Under Sharia law, everybody is a slave, and women are more like cattles.

It’s coming in Europe, VERY fast, whithin a generation or two, maximum.


14 posted on 12/06/2012 4:51:15 AM PST by Katechon
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To: bert

LOL! Very fair point.

What term should we use? Gays?


15 posted on 12/06/2012 4:52:40 AM PST by Katechon
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It was a joke, not a philosophical statement.


16 posted on 12/06/2012 4:54:06 AM PST by Houghton M.
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To: Katechon

One could certainly logically ask the women who are so gung-ho for liberal causes today, why they would wink when the same causes get all kissy faced with a tribe that would as soon kill these libbers as look at them? It makes even the stuffiest, most pretentious churchmen (let alone the sincere ones who have grace) look like Ronald McDonald in comparison.


17 posted on 12/06/2012 4:56:54 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yes, it spread by the sword, rather than love.

Why is the Pope not denouncing islam as a devilish trick?

Maybe because it would accelerate the actualization of the bloodshed to come in Europe.


18 posted on 12/06/2012 4:58:01 AM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon

“Our Christian nation is self-aborting.”

I don’t consider a bunch of heathens and savages aborting themselves in Seattle and Chicago as part of the Christian nation. To be a Christian you must believe in some incarnation of a Christian God. These Morlocks have no such beliefs.


19 posted on 12/06/2012 5:01:50 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Katechon

Not personally being Roman Catholic, I can’t “pontificate” on why the Pope of the Roman Catholic church isn’t proclaiming something like this.

The previous one appears to have made the mistake of getting too chummy with Islam in an attempt to find common ground of morality with them. An infamous picture shows him kissing a green-covered copy of the Koran. I think that approach, however well meant, reduces Christianity to a morality story, and inadvertently invites moral relativism.


20 posted on 12/06/2012 5:03:07 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

What's the modern-day equivalent of the sword?

Oh yes, that's right:

Are we going to witness soon the Last Crusade?

21 posted on 12/06/2012 5:04:15 AM PST by Katechon
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Yes, well put.

Although popes may work in "mysterious ways" as well!


22 posted on 12/06/2012 5:06:33 AM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon

-——What term should we use?-——

I use Q&D’s...... Queers and Dykes. No euphemistic fig leaf is needed.

There is no need to not offend those who are offensive


23 posted on 12/06/2012 5:08:06 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: sergeantdave

Fair point.

How should we call our civilization then, if not a Christian one? “Modern” civilization?


24 posted on 12/06/2012 5:08:18 AM PST by Katechon
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To: bert

So will I then. Many thanks. Queers and Dykes.


25 posted on 12/06/2012 5:09:26 AM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon

So much gets lost in a photo-op like that.

“I kiss it for the sake of whatever good morals it has” isn’t what is going to get remembered here, and it also has some profoundly bad morals in it.


26 posted on 12/06/2012 5:10:51 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: bert

I say luggbutts. Every new iteration from that side of the fence seems to add more and more letters until it appears a veritable alphabet soup, but I stopped with LGBT.


27 posted on 12/06/2012 5:12:13 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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28 posted on 12/06/2012 5:15:51 AM PST by Katechon
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To: NYer
"Sterilization is now the most widely used form of contraception in the U.S"

And Obama wanna make it "free" for everybody, even very young adults.

29 posted on 12/06/2012 5:19:30 AM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon

Why of course, it is the brave new society. “Forward!” (Into hell)


30 posted on 12/06/2012 5:21:34 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: sergeantdave
"To be a Christian you must believe in some incarnation of a Christian God. These Morlocks have no such beliefs."

A Morlock

31 posted on 12/06/2012 5:21:44 AM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon

i thought it was warlocks (and warlockettes)


32 posted on 12/06/2012 5:24:04 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Katechon
Christian folks in the West are in the process of becoming a minority.

Already happened.

In USA Christians, depending on your definition of the term, are still arguably a majority.

In Europe and the rest of the West Christians are a small and shrinking minority, with possible exception of a few countries like Poland.

The West is now a post-Christian civilization. We have not yet seen how well that will work out in the long run.

I'm not optimistic.

33 posted on 12/06/2012 5:32:12 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

From its original sources, it’s clear that Christianity never made a claim of being able to win the majority of the world. If, in fact, it did, that would make certain biblical statements look foolish. We can’t say on any basis that we deserve to live the mortal segment of our lives in a Christianized world. But when God makes a promise, God keeps it, and we are not foolish to believe in that.


34 posted on 12/06/2012 5:36:24 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Katechon

“How should we call our civilization then, if not a Christian one? “Modern” civilization?”

I don’t have an answer. I don’t know if we need a new definition. I do disagree with some who claim we are a post-Christian nation. That, for me, is leftist propaganda. Their logic is flawed. It would be like claiming that Asia is communist because the largest populated Asian nation, China, is run by communists, while completely ignoring India.

I don’t think we need to change the Christian label yet. I point out that Christians in the south are producing enough children to more than replace Christians who are dying. People disagree with me on that.

We are divided. And two groups, one that believes in statism and slavery, and another that believes in God, individual freedom and liberty, cannot and will not live together.

Maybe Christians need to send missionaries into the heathen territory.


35 posted on 12/06/2012 6:07:55 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: sergeantdave

Thank you. You make a lot of sense, sir.


36 posted on 12/06/2012 7:06:23 AM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon; NYer
No - Pope Paul described the potential for catastrophe in its first cause: breakdown of morality. Islamic takeover is an effect.

A few lines from the Durants on the fall of Rome:

A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself within.

“What had caused this fall in population? Above all, family limitation. Practiced first by the educated classes, it had not seeped down to a proletariat named for its fertility; by a.d. 100 it had reached the agricultural classes. … Though branded as a crime, infanticide flourished as poverty grew. Sexual excesses may have reduced human fertility; the avoidance or deferment of marriage had a like effect, and the making of eunuchs increased as Oriental customs flowed in to the West.

“The rapidly breeding Germans could not understand the classic culture, did not accept it, did not transmit it; the rapidly breeding Orientals were mostly of a mind to destroy that culture; the Romans, possessing it, sacrificed it to the comforts of sterility. Rome was conquered not by barbarian invasion from without, but by barbarian multiplication within.

“Moral decay contributed to the dissolution. … Men had now, in the middle and upper classes, the means to yield to temptation, and only expediency to restrain them. Urban congestion multiplied contacts and frustrated surveillance; immigration brought together a hundred cultures whose differences rubbed themselves out into indifference. Moral and esthetic standards were lowered by the magnetism of the mass; and sex ran riot in freedom while political liberty decayed.”

37 posted on 12/06/2012 7:14:03 AM PST by jobim (.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
lol, could be. I don't know. But that was the answer Google gave me when I asked about Morlock!

I also got that:

I don't know what it is, but it looks very hungry.

38 posted on 12/06/2012 7:14:17 AM PST by Katechon
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To: jobim

Many thanks.


39 posted on 12/06/2012 7:17:55 AM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon
I don't know what it is, but it looks very hungry.

That's Eddie Murphy's Aunt Goonie Goo Goo.

40 posted on 12/06/2012 7:20:17 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: NYer

How truly scary. The Holy Father laid out the demise of our society 45 yrs ago and not 1 in 50 actually understand it or care.


41 posted on 12/06/2012 7:21:54 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: bert; Katechon; Tax-chick; NYer
Just anecdotal, but I did hear some complainin' from a gay man about the whole gay-marriage=our-goal trend: "Y'know, I spent 20 years convincing my mother that she needs to quit trying to change me because I'm really, really gay, and now she's on me again: 'But why aren't you married?"

In Canada, which legalized same-sex pseudogamy in 2005, gays make up just 0.1% of all married couples, a proportion which is consistent with other countries that permit same-sex marriage.

In other words, the radical de-definition of the most important heterosexual institution was changed to satisfy one couple in one thousand. The promotion of gay marriage has nothing to do with the welfare of homosexuals. As with feminism and hormonal impairment (including contraception and transsexualism) it is designed to increase sex-role confusion, divorce, and depopulation.

And why do they favor depopulation?

Hmmm...

Class, discuss.

42 posted on 12/06/2012 8:42:00 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." Billie Holiday / Arthur Herzog Jr)
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To: Katechon
Doesn't actually explain why they want those things.

Especially since pro-abortion and pro-gay movements have been going on since before Muslims were a major factor in Europe or the US.

43 posted on 12/06/2012 9:53:50 AM PST by x
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To: Katechon
I thank you for this graphic and very easy to read post. It brings in very clearly what is going on. This instead of sheer print.I take the liberty of mentioning a book here.

Unholy Alliance.
Radical Islam and the American Left.
David Horowitz (2004).

I note your typo and this is often my area of mistakes. Having admitted that, I might go off topic and mention the classic mammoth scandal of the late Victorian era. The Marquis of Queensbury (Boxing rules) went to the private club where Oscar Wilde was. He was outraged at Wilde and his proclivity for young stupid men.

He presented a card addressed to a SOMDOMITE. This was Mr Wilde. Wilde sued for libel, lost and got two years hard labour.

44 posted on 12/06/2012 9:56:05 AM PST by Peter Libra
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To: Katechon

So who did the republicans run against this agenda and Obama?

Hint, during the campaign he restated his desire for homosexual Scout leaders.

During the campaign he of course said that homosexualizing the military was a done deal, since he had been calling it himself for almost 20 years, him in 1994-””One issue I want to clarify concerns President Clinton’s “don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t pursue” military policy. I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation’s military. That goal will only be reached when preventing discrimination against gays and lesbians is a mainstream concern, which is a goal we share.””

Who is he?

He is the Governor who introduced “gay marriage” to the nation.


45 posted on 12/06/2012 11:20:06 AM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer's successful run in Nebraska)
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To: Katechon

Thanks for the post.

We are being manipulated by the population controllers.

Somebody better starting to ask why the population controllers want us to commit fertility suicide.

“A nation that kills its own children is a nation without hope.” Poope John Paul II


46 posted on 12/06/2012 12:58:55 PM PST by victim soul
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To: Katechon

Thanks for the post.

We are being manipulated by the population controllers.

Somebody better starting to ask why the population controllers want us to commit fertility suicide.

“A nation that kills its own children is a nation without hope.” Pope John Paul II


47 posted on 12/06/2012 1:03:32 PM PST by victim soul
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To: Katechon

LOL, we reap what we sow. Just think how different this world would have been without WW I and WW II. The white race is obviously bent on destroying itself. And so it goes. Time waits for no one.


48 posted on 12/06/2012 2:47:26 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Who we elect is not as important as who they bring in with them.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Wow! Where to begin.

now she's on me again: 'But why aren't you married?"

Well, mom, it's more fun to play the field. Commitment is not that appealing to gays.

In other words, the radical de-definition of the most important heterosexual institution was changed to satisfy one couple in one thousand.

The goal, of course, is to 'normalize' abhorrent behavior. The thought process is one of "if society approves, that eradicates any guilt".

And why do they favor depopulation?

That question has me a bit perplexed. Why?

49 posted on 12/06/2012 3:29:58 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: NYer

“Humanae Vitae”

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-vi_enc_25071968_humanae-vitae_en.html

and

Deus Caritas Est

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/encyclicals/documents/hf_ben-xvi_enc_20051225_deus-caritas-est_en.html

are two documents that I visit often. I can never learn enough from them.


50 posted on 12/06/2012 3:36:16 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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