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Lawmaker proposes bill to close stores on Thanksgiving
St Louis Post Dispatch online ^ | 12/4/2012 | Elizabeth Crisp

Posted on 12/06/2012 6:29:19 AM PST by mykroar

Missouri state Rep. Jeff Roorda, D-Barnhart, wants to stop Black Friday’s blitz on Thanksgiving, so he has proposed legislation that would bar most retail stores from opening on the holiday.

"Thanksgiving should be about families, not profit and greed. It's Thanksgiving Day, not Black Friday Eve,” Roorda said in a news release.

(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: business; close; law; thanksgiving
Heard this idiot on the radio this morning in Kansas City. When the host pressed him on issues he resorted to the usual liberal crying about "you're just trying to pick a fight" crap. Essentially his answer for "where do you get the authority to do this?" was "People like it - therefore I can." The funniest part was when the host said, "ok, then why exempt restaurants, gas stations, etc". They're "essential services" donchaknow. People might want to eat out as a family - and then it's ok for people to have to work.
1 posted on 12/06/2012 6:29:24 AM PST by mykroar
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To: mykroar

Another politician complaining about “profit and greed”. LOL! When it comes to greed, politicians are the masters of it.


2 posted on 12/06/2012 6:32:17 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't tax me bro! Tax that guy over there!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I remember when nearly every store at the mall was closed on Sunday...


3 posted on 12/06/2012 6:41:11 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: mykroar

shouldn’t be a government decision....


4 posted on 12/06/2012 6:41:46 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: mykroar

Instead, let the atheists and the activists and the Howard Zinn readers work that day. Problem solved. The rest of us can give thanks to God and enjoy a good meal.


5 posted on 12/06/2012 6:43:35 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: mykroar

Blue Laws again?


6 posted on 12/06/2012 6:44:02 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: mykroar

I don’t want the government getting involved, but this is a slippery sloap. How long until IBM says, “You know why give employees Thanksgiving off when it costs me so much money in lost production and salaries.”


7 posted on 12/06/2012 6:45:05 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: mykroar

Yea, like that is going to solve anything. They’ll just pick another day for their holiday mayhem.

Perhaps I could suggest April 1st?


8 posted on 12/06/2012 6:54:50 AM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

IMHO, this is a prime example of why the country appears to be sliding to the left, at least on economic issues.

With Reagan we adopted laissez-faire and opted to give business a free hand. But going into decade #4 the effects of them not being very smart about that are beginning to show.

Requiring employees to work on Thanksgiving does evoke a gut, visceral reaction amongst many people. It pits values of family, faith and American tradition against respect for free-market Capitalism. And business keeps pushing the envelope further and further on almost every issue to the point where I think we are on the verge of a major backlash. Even amongst people inclined to agree with Reagan.

The more I analyze the election I am coming to the conclusion that the 2008 financial debacle has severely, perhaps permanently, damaged people’s trust in the business sector. Hence the electorate is becoming increasingly open to the idea of Big Government with a Big Stick to get them back in line.

That’s what 30 years of decisions made with respect for the bottom line (and often little else) will get you. It’s sort of how like when you homebrew beer the alcohol tops out at 5 or 6%. Beyond that it actually begins to kill the yeast that produces it.


9 posted on 12/06/2012 6:56:02 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

It’s sad but that’s why people turn to Democrats. The workers feel like victims and the Rats’ pick up on it. Gop doesn’t even offer lip service.


10 posted on 12/06/2012 6:58:25 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: mykroar

He is on safe ground here.

If it shuts down commerce and causes a loss of jobs democrats are for it


11 posted on 12/06/2012 7:11:04 AM PST by Iron Munro (Big Moo & Bronco 'Bama = Robbing From The Hood and Boy Blunder)
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To: Iron Munro

I don’t think any major chain would leave the State of Missouri just because they couldn’t open on Thanksgiving.


12 posted on 12/06/2012 7:52:30 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I quite agree. Being pro-free market is not the same as being pro-business, and it would be wise for conservatives to understand the difference.

I certainly don't want to pass a law prohibiting closing stores on Thanksgiving, but it would be nice to see conservative leaders, both in and out of office, saying loud and clear that it would be a very good thing for American families if it was done voluntarily.

13 posted on 12/06/2012 7:53:53 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Only liberals believe that people can be made virtuous via legislative enactment.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

When I was a kid, even grocery stores were closed on Sundays. I don’t know if they were blocked by the Maryland “blue laws” or not.

I do know that there were still blue laws on the books in the mid-1980s in MD that prohibited department stores from operating on Sundays. Some sort of legislative deal was worked out that allowed them to be open during the four Sundays leading up to Christmas, and then, before long, the blue laws were struck down altogether.

Would love to see all of the stores close on Sundays and major holidays, not by legal decree but because the owners decided that it was the decent thing to do. Not holding my breath, of course.

Regarding this idiot’s proposal, I suppose he wants us to believe that his regulation would turn the moronic and violent bargain hunters into loving family-oriented citizens.


14 posted on 12/06/2012 8:04:36 AM PST by Bigg Red (Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we couldn't keep it.)
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To: Notary Sojac

Just as I believe that banks loading up their credit agreements with clever loopholes and gotchas, while charging obscene interest on credit cards, have managed to elect to the United States Senate a woman who has lied about being a Cherokee Indian her entire life.

But my sense is most holders of an MBA will never get it.


15 posted on 12/06/2012 8:10:12 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
And then "we" (I use the word advisedly) picked a candidate who, for all his personal integrity, is a lifetime member of the paper-pushing, deal-cutting financial sector, rather than the product-making, customer-satisfying business sector.

Only to be shocked, shocked!! that some voters identified him with the sleaze artists that cooked up the 2008 meltdown.

16 posted on 12/06/2012 9:01:04 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Only liberals believe that people can be made virtuous via legislative enactment.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Texas used to have blue laws. They were ridiculous. You could buy a can of beans but you couldn’t buy a can opener so you could eat them.


17 posted on 12/06/2012 9:01:08 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: bgill

Ditto Missouri.
Sunday beer and fireworks were OK.
Matches could not be sold, however.


18 posted on 12/06/2012 9:06:22 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: bgill

Ditto Missouri.
Sunday beer and fireworks were OK.
Matches could not be sold, however.


19 posted on 12/06/2012 9:06:46 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: cotton1706
Instead, let the atheists and the activists and the Howard Zinn readers work that day. Problem solved. The rest of us can give thanks to God and enjoy a good meal.

So, when the turkey catches the house on fire you'll gladly wait until Friday to call 911, EMS and the fire department? Lets hope no one gets into an accident on the way to your house because the police and hospital employees are taking a holiday. Hey, granny doesn't need the nursing home care that day because it's more important that the home be closed for the day. It won't matter that the inmates at the loony bin and the prison are on the loose because there were no workers there to keep them inside.

20 posted on 12/06/2012 9:10:08 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: bgill

Are you serious? The article was about stores. Do you think at all??


21 posted on 12/06/2012 9:16:28 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

Don’t discriminate. One employee is the same as the next.


22 posted on 12/06/2012 9:30:55 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: bgill

Only in your mind apparently.


23 posted on 12/06/2012 9:32:45 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: mykroar

The issue of Black Friday encroaching on Thanksgiving will sort itself out soon enough, when stores start having their BF specials on the weekend BEFORE Thanksgiving.


24 posted on 12/06/2012 9:35:31 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Voltaire)
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