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Gov. Lincoln Chafee: It’s Not “Tradition” to Call It a Christmas Tree
Cybercast News Service ^ | December 5, 2012 | Jon Street

Posted on 12/06/2012 1:31:30 PM PST by Olog-hai

Gov. Lincoln Chafee (I-R.I.) told CNSNews.com on Wednesday that his administration calls the decorated evergreen tree erected in the Rhode Island State House in December a “holiday tree”—rather than a “Christmas tree”—because that is what the tree is traditionally called. …

But Rhode Island State Rep. Doreen Costa, who has called Chafee “Governor Grinch,” told CNSNews.com that she doesn’t remember Chafee’s predecessor, Gov. (Donald) Carcieri, calling it a “holiday tree”—nor does she recall Carcieri’s predecessor, Gov. (Lincoln) Almond, calling the tree a “holiday tree.” … But Carcieri also referred to it as a “Christmas tree,” she said. …

“Governor Chafee, his famous line, which he says about everything, is that ‘times are changing.’ He said times are changing and he wants to be politically correct. Well, with me, political correctness doesn’t really work,” Costa told CNSNews.com. …

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Rhode Island
KEYWORDS: antichristmas; chafee; christmastree; waronchristmas

1 posted on 12/06/2012 1:31:33 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Asshole. Plain and simple.


2 posted on 12/06/2012 1:32:48 PM PST by albie
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To: Olog-hai

It's ALWAYS been a "Holiday Tree".

3 posted on 12/06/2012 1:35:21 PM PST by Fido969
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To: Olog-hai

Why doesn’t he say that he doesn’t care if he offends Christians, as long as the atheists and the middle-eastern death cultists don’t whine.


4 posted on 12/06/2012 1:37:02 PM PST by I want the USA back (0bama is the new Christ. We're doomed!)
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To: Olog-hai
BAH HUM BUG

MERRY CHRISTMAS

Amy Grant "Breath of Heaven" LINK

5 posted on 12/06/2012 1:46:36 PM PST by GailA (those who do not keep promises to Military, won't keep them to U)
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To: Olog-hai

Did he just crawl out from under a rock? It’s always been called a Christmas tree. In fact, he probably remembers it being called a Christmas tree when he was a kid. He’s either a liar or an idiot.


6 posted on 12/06/2012 1:47:51 PM PST by goldi
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To: Olog-hai

The now-annual ‘War on Christmas’ is absurd. In a nation where atheists comprise less than 10% of the population it is insane that they have the kind of influence they appear to have on politicians. Bickering over calling a Christmas tree what it is simply underscores the insanity. That the 90% of Americans who observe Christmas allow this rubbish from a tiny minority to fester and grow worse every year is remarkable.


7 posted on 12/06/2012 1:49:16 PM PST by Jim Scott
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To: Olog-hai
Hey Chafee, you @sshole ... notice the sign says, "White House Christmas Tree."
If it's good enough for the Marxist-in-Chief, why not you?

8 posted on 12/06/2012 1:50:44 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Olog-hai

If every true Christian would sit home just 1 December the merchants would get the message. When I am wished happy holiday’s I cancel the purchase of their over priced cheap chinse junk and tell them when they return CHRIST to CHRISTmas I’ll do CHRISTmas shopping in their stores. Mine is done before Dec 1.


9 posted on 12/06/2012 1:50:59 PM PST by GailA (those who do not keep promises to Military, won't keep them to U)
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To: Olog-hai

How about “a tree for the Federal Holiday created by President U.S. Grant... the Holiday Grant called ‘Christmas’!”?


10 posted on 12/06/2012 1:52:58 PM PST by PizzaDriver ( on)
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To: Olog-hai
I heard a good one the other day. A caller to a radio show asked what you call that thing Jewish people put candles in during Hanukkah. When she was answered it's called a Menorah she responded that yes you call it a Menorah, Not a Holiday candle stick holder.

I will use that line on anyone who calls a Christmas tree a Holiday tree.

11 posted on 12/06/2012 1:53:54 PM PST by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: goldi

He’s right. It was called a Tannenbaum. Oh that’s right, we won!


12 posted on 12/06/2012 1:58:36 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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The boy is contradicting himself.


13 posted on 12/06/2012 2:01:08 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: oh8eleven

Oh, you better not work.
you better not try.
you better not earn.
I’m telling you why.
Obama Claus is coming to town.

He sees you when you’re building.
he wants what you all make.
he’ll tell the 47 per cent.
that being rich is a mistake.

oh you better not work.
you better not try.
you better not earn.
I’m telling you why.

Obama Claus is coming to town.

he’ll tell you to be thankful.
to bow down and give thanks.
or he’ll send you to a FEMA camp.
to get your thinking “straight”.

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you better not try.
you better not earn.
I’m telling you why.
Obama Claus is coming to town.

he’ll give you a free cell phone.
say Obamacare is great.
he’ll tell you being a success.
is something you should hate.

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you better not try.
you better not earn.
I’m telling you why.
Obama Claus is coooming tooo tooown!


14 posted on 12/06/2012 2:02:25 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Olog-hai

Well when I was in school, in the olden days, we had Christmas vacation and Easter break and they were TRADITIONAL Holidays. What we have now is politically correct pandering to atheists. What I don’t understand is if they don’t believe in GOD why are they so angry that we do?


15 posted on 12/06/2012 2:04:47 PM PST by Mastador1
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To: Olog-hai

Now if they called it a display of a homeless mom, they could show the Nativity. It’s OK with me what they call it. We know what is.


16 posted on 12/06/2012 2:12:06 PM PST by ex-snook (without forgiveness there is no Christianity)
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To: Olog-hai

Good widdew toady, Chafee.

Now go buy me an order of fries and gimme that report you wrote for me.


17 posted on 12/06/2012 2:16:27 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Fido969

Exactly.

And they are going to get away with it from here on out.


18 posted on 12/06/2012 2:18:00 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Olog-hai
Chafee said: “Last year the tree-lighting ceremony turned into a big controversial event. That's just not what I want.”

Okay, then just call it a Christmas tree. Very simple solution. You can say you are creating a "new" tradition.

19 posted on 12/06/2012 2:21:58 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Olog-hai

What was it called then?

Place The Credit-Driven Gifts Here Tree?

The Green Thing in the Corner covered in Glitz Tree?

The Thing That Must Not Be Named Tree?

How about, The Nananananananana Can’t Name It Tree for the Season of Stores, Crappy Sweets and Government EBT Sales?

How about the Diversity for All But By Allah and AuntiTheist Don’t Let the Christians Out of the Closet Tree?

Governor, you truly are an ass.


20 posted on 12/06/2012 2:26:58 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: goldi

“He’s either a liar or an idiot.”

He is, without question, a liar.


21 posted on 12/06/2012 2:37:03 PM PST by BIV (typical white person)
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To: GailA

and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us and we have seen His Glory, the Glory of the One and Only, Who came from the Father, full of Grace and Truth...John 1:14


22 posted on 12/06/2012 3:32:19 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Olog-hai

Dhimmi-crat moonbattery on display...


23 posted on 12/06/2012 3:55:09 PM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Olog-hai
You're a rotter, Governor Grinch.
You're the king of sinful sots.
Your heart's a dead tomato splot
With moldy purple spots,
Governor Grinch.

Your soul is an appalling dump heap overflowing
with the most disgraceful assortment of deplorable
rubbish imaginable,
Mangled up in tangled up knots.

You nauseate me, Governor Grinch.
With a nauseaus super-naus.
You're a crooked jerky jockey
And you drive a crooked horse.
Governor Grinch.

You're a three decker sauerkraut and toadstool sandwich
With arsenic sauce.

24 posted on 12/06/2012 4:16:02 PM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: goldi

‘Did he just crawl out from under a rock? It’s always been called a Christmas tree. In fact, he probably remembers it being called a Christmas tree when he was a kid. He’s either a liar or an idiot.’

How about both.


25 posted on 12/06/2012 4:28:49 PM PST by Baron 2A (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Olog-hai

A “Christmas” tree is a Nordic pagan tradition.

Get the “Christ” out of Yuletide.


26 posted on 12/06/2012 6:05:00 PM PST by Salman
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To: Salman
The Yule log is an old European pagan tradition, as is the use of mistletoe and holly, the latter adopted by the Christians and given new symbolism, but the Christmas tree is not. The Christmas tree "tradition" was introduced to Europe from the US, not the other way around. It wasn't even widely known in the US among non-Lutheran Americans until the Civil War.
27 posted on 12/06/2012 7:34:23 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Olog-hai

Next up, renaming the Movie “A Christmas Story”, “A Holiday Story”.

Ralphie might have to go after the Governor with his Red Ryder.


28 posted on 12/06/2012 7:43:15 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (As they say in China, erections have consequences...)
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To: Salman
Well, I should say it was re-introduced to Europe. Up until the 1850s it wasn't much known in Europe outside of Germany and areas with German populations. It arrived here with German settlers and Prussians in the 1700S ; in England it arrived with German royalty but didn't really catch on widely outside Germany and the US until it recrossed the Atlantic with US troops.

In Germany the Christmas tree's ancestor wasn't the pagan evergreen or oak or holly but rather, a "Paradise Tree," which was a prop used on an otherwise bare stage in a Paradise Play about the fall of Man popular in the Middle Ages, one of many popular plays.

In the play there was just a commmon fir tree with apples attached to it, about as exotic as you could get in Germany if you were trying to replicate the Garden of Eden and in no way intended to represent pagan ideas about anything, it was just a prop. The person who played Eve would at one point in the play pluck an apple from it.

The popular plays became more about rowdiness than religion and the Church eventually banned them, so people started doing mini-plays at home. On Christmas Eve they would make their own Paradise play. Then the play was dropped and people just put up a tree. Back in Germany they would have used apples, in keeping with the play about the fall of Man in the garden of Eden. In Lutheran churches here in the US you will sometimes see two trees. One is the Tree of Death and it is decorated with red ornaments, one for each year of Christ's life. The red ornaments represent sin. The other tree is the Tree of Life and is decorated with the same number of white ornaments. In Germany these could be white roses, for the Rose of Sharon, or little cookies or wafers to represent communion wafers. Tree trimmings are used to make an advent wreath, with candles added.

Though the use of a single Christ Candle on Christmas Eve was there early on, the tree tradition and candle tradition were separate. There was a third practice in Germany to make a tiered stand that had lots of little candles on it on which sweets and small toys were placed, but at first the trees weren't lit. The idea of lighting candles on a tree came much later and no one is sure who came up with it but it appears to be a combination of the three traditions all on one tree.

After Christmas the Lutherans strip the branches from the tree in preparation for Easter, cutting the trunk or trunks to form a cross. The cross with reappear on Easter embellished with white lillies.

29 posted on 12/06/2012 8:35:50 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Tennessee Nana

amen!


30 posted on 12/07/2012 6:04:53 AM PST by GailA (those who do not keep promises to Military, won't keep them to U)
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