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Obama, Boehner staff resume cliff talks: WSJ (Boehner purge over; prepares to surrender to Obama)
Marketwatch ^ | 12/6/12 | Robert Schroeder

Posted on 12/06/2012 2:17:56 PM PST by jimbo123

Negotiations about how to avoid the fiscal cliff have resumed between the staffs of President Barack Obama and House Speaker John Boehner, The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday.

(Excerpt) Read more at marketwatch.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boner; norinos; rino; surrender
The RINO fix is in.
1 posted on 12/06/2012 2:18:06 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

As long as Boner gets to “play golf” with Ubama once in awhile, that’s all that matters.


2 posted on 12/06/2012 2:19:44 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: jimbo123

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/opinion.wav


3 posted on 12/06/2012 2:20:34 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: jimbo123
Everyone that enabled the GOP by voting for thier liberal is responsible for this.

The enablers will be here shortly to defend Boehner.

/johnny

4 posted on 12/06/2012 2:21:23 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: jimbo123

Obama will do his usual.....duck and run....and head for Hawaii on the 14th.....and he won’t be back for 3 weeks....which means next year which means he won’t be here when we go “over the cliff”. Whatta guy!!


5 posted on 12/06/2012 2:21:30 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: jimbo123

Isn’t the purge of conservative chairman a big deal?

Why isn’t there more of a riot over this


6 posted on 12/06/2012 2:24:08 PM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

7 posted on 12/06/2012 2:24:39 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Sacajaweau

Boner and McConnell will surrender to Obama before his Hawaiian getaway. The fix is in.


8 posted on 12/06/2012 2:26:21 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
I heard Rush today - he was talking about Reagan and TEFRA.

He said the Democrats promised spending cuts, but they never passed them.

What if Republicans did the same thing, promise tax increases on the rich, but never pass them.

Repubs could announce "Yes, we are in favor of raising taxes on millionaires and billionaires," but just never bring up a tax bill!

If the country goes over the cliff, the Repubs can blame it on the Democrats, saying "we announced our support, but the Dems never voted for it."

Tit for Tat?

9 posted on 12/06/2012 2:26:35 PM PST by eCSMaster (2012 elections: American Coup d'etat!)
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To: jimbo123

Bonehead has gotten good at surrendering. Practice makes perfect.


10 posted on 12/06/2012 2:27:07 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: jimbo123
No matter what the Republicans do, they will be blamed for the resulting fiscal mess.

Unless, they offer no resistance whatsoever. That may be the only way to escape blame and hang the economy on Obama. At this point, the only thing we can hope is that Boehner is engaging in "rope-a-dope".

11 posted on 12/06/2012 2:39:46 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: the_Watchman
the only thing we can hope is that Boehner

Hoping for the GOP to do anything that a conservative approves of is a long wait where a train don't come.

/johnny

12 posted on 12/06/2012 2:43:59 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: the_Watchman

Dope and Doper


13 posted on 12/06/2012 2:45:19 PM PST by bigbob
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To: jimbo123

Say what you will about Pelosi, but she has bigger balls than Boehner


14 posted on 12/06/2012 2:47:32 PM PST by wny
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To: eCSMaster

Ummm, if Congress does nothing the Bush tax cuts expire—and taxes go up.


15 posted on 12/06/2012 2:49:30 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: jimbo123

My letter to John Boehner yesterday...

December 5, 2012

The Honorable Speaker of the US House of Representatives John Boehner
Office of the Speaker
H-232 The Capitol
Washington, DC 20515

Dear Speaker Boehner:

John, save the tears, 9-irons, cigarettes and spray-on tans for one moment and listen to me, man-to-man:

The Mainstream Media (100% of the media - except the Washington Times, Boston Herald, Washington Examiner, Talk Radio and Fox News) hates your guts, yes, I said it, hates your guts. The Soledad O’Brien/Brian Williams/Bob Schieffer crowd may see you across the room at a Georgetown cocktail party, at a horse event in Middleburg or at a Kennedy Center awards event, but at the end of the day, are millionaire Statists who would rather see you back home selling insurance vs. heading the opposition party. They are part of the grand Pravda scheme of insulating and lying to the public about the Marxist Democratic Party’s interests. Stop trying to make them like you, in the end, they have Soros, the huge Foundations (Kellogg, Ford and Rockefeller) who will spend millions to defeat you in your home district, much less LIKE or RESPECT you. They want you to be dead (figuratively) in the political sense. It’s like a snake and rabbit both taking a drink at the watering hole. The snake is 100% looking for food, despite his small talk to the rabbit about the weather...it’s just to keep the bunny from hopping off and the ability to eat him.

You are a Washington insider, someone who left Ohio many moons ago to pursue a dream of political leadership that you currently enjoy. Congratulations on 2010 but it’s now 2012 and we have serious issues to attend to, mainly the ability to stop Obama and not give in to the MSM narrative.

1. PLEASE stop using the word “Revenue.” Say the truth, its TAX HIKES. It shows capitulation to the Liberal changing the meaning of language. Say “Raising Taxes” not raising revenue. Make every Obama/Democrat voter, mainly the educated ones who work, understand that THEIR taxes are going up, not just the “Rich Guy’s” who they loathe…(well, if they are Republicans)

2. EXPLAIN how $80 billion in 10 years is a drop in the bucket vs. a $1.6T budget and a $16.3T deficit...BUT how devastating it would be to job creators in the short term. Can you just merely state, in plain English, that John Smith’s ideas are far more tried and true than Keynes? Obama wants to punish those who create wealth (and donate to his campaigns) for his ideological redistributionist plans. Step up and explain that this does nothing but KILL JOBS, not CREATE them. Be articulate and explain that wealth is not permanent and growth needs to happen to keep the tax revenues coming in. One layoff has HUGE opportunity costs and Government work creates no wealth. Make OUR case.

3. Back to Point #1. It doesn’t matter; the GOP will be blamed for everything negative, even back 5 years to GW Bush. The Media is tanked for Obama and the Left Wing Dems, they skew, hide and spin every argument to make the Communist Agenda seem mainstream. There is no making nice with these people in the media. If somehow we have a massive recovery (possible, but highly unlikely) Obama and the Democrats will received 100% of the credit, even if they were REPUBLICAN ideas. Get it, John, it’s “lose-lose” for you and McConnell, if they win, you lose…if you win, they still say you lose. If they fail, you will be blamed and Obama, Reid and Pelosi will be blameless.

4) Stop purging Tea Partiers from the Committees. This is infuriating, but a battle I will take up with you at a future date.

Final takeaway: The Left and the Media lie and distort the truth about race, economics, poverty, the military, guns, global warming, gays, abortion and immigration. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, Peron, Ho Chi Minh, Alinsky, Clinton, Carter, LBJ, Wilson and even FRD all steal and tell un-truths to keep up the illusion of prosperity, when in fact, it’s a Ponzi Scheme. Marx, Engels and the Communists killed 100 million and kept billions poor, sick and enslaved. This is who the Democrats are, look at Obama’s friends and other “progressives” in the same chamber as your sit. Ellison, Lee? Please. They WENT TO CUBA and praised Castro, but somehow that was missed by the beloved MSM.
John, I don’t know you, but you seem like a good man, but I realize as an insider, you want to get along and make things happen, and be liked. Politicians flourish because people like the results of their efforts, and get pushed out if they are unpopular.

Stand up for Conservative Principles, stop being another Bush 41 softy and tell the Marxists “NO”. You will lose in the media either way, so fight on and TELL OUR STORY. Your legacy could be that you saved the country from the most destructive internal force ever known to the United States of America, Barack Hussein Obama, II.

Regards,

wac3rd


16 posted on 12/06/2012 2:53:53 PM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: 9YearLurker
and taxes go up.

They rarely go down.

/johnny

17 posted on 12/06/2012 2:54:21 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: the_Watchman
"Unless, they offer no resistance whatsoever. That may be the only way to escape blame and hang the economy on Obama."

The problem with that strategy is that the Republicans in congress were hired to prevent it.

If (well, "when") Boehner bends over -- if conservatives were uninspired by McCain and uninspired by Romney (Obama lost some 4 million votes between 2008 and 2012. Where did they go? Not to Romney.) -- they'll be completely uninspired by the GOP in 2014 and 2016.

18 posted on 12/06/2012 2:57:50 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: eCSMaster

They won’t.

They are absoutely incapable of doing anything other than getting their asses royally kicked.


19 posted on 12/06/2012 3:00:38 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: 9YearLurker
Ummm, if Congress does nothing the Bush tax cuts expire—and taxes go up.

Yeah, but the democrats said the Bush tax cuts were only for the rich, so does it matter?
According to the left, the Bush tax cuts did nothing for the middle class, remember? So, as long as the middle class isn't affected, according to the left, what's the problem?
Let the "Bush tax cuts for the rich" expire. If the middle class gets hit, blame in on Oboma. "OPPS! Who knew the Bush tax cuts helped the middle class? The democrats told us otherwise for years! Were they lieing about Bush all this time??"

20 posted on 12/06/2012 3:02:57 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: jimbo123

Vichy Republican swine. Hang them all.


21 posted on 12/06/2012 3:08:11 PM PST by Noumenon (As long as you have a rifle, you STILL have a vote.)
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To: jimbo123

The weeper should take a page from Christie. Right after he left his meeting with Obama today he announced that New Jersey would not be participating in the Obamacare exchange


22 posted on 12/06/2012 3:11:37 PM PST by jersey117
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To: JRandomFreeper
Everyone that enabled the GOP by voting for their liberal is responsible for this.

That's a provocative thing to say on this forum. True, but provocative.

23 posted on 12/06/2012 3:20:21 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today.)
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To: wny

“Say what you will about Pelosi, but she has bigger balls than Boehner”

Sad but true. She could lone him one of hers and still have two. :)


24 posted on 12/06/2012 3:22:43 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Marcella
Sister, I've received the same treatment before the election.

It was either my vote didn't matter, or I was the sole cause of the failure of western civilization.

I promised that after the election I was going to give what I got.

If that gets me booted.. so be it.

You know me, I'm not too bright about some things. ;)

/johnny

25 posted on 12/06/2012 3:26:02 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
It was either my vote didn't matter, or I was the sole cause of the failure of western civilization.

I can one upsmanship you as I was called a "traitor". I know you and I feel the same, we don't vote for liberals so we got hammered. Doesn't matter, I don't vote for liberals.

26 posted on 12/06/2012 3:31:44 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today.)
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To: Marcella
called a "traitor"

I was called worse, mainly in freepmail. Some of them were hilarously accurate like "whirling son-of-a-bitch", but most were just mean and said by people reacting out of fear and anger.

/johnny

27 posted on 12/06/2012 3:35:28 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
"whirling son-of-a-bitch"

Oh, whirling, that person didn't know that's your actual name?

28 posted on 12/06/2012 3:42:14 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today.)
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To: jimbo123

Benedict Arnold.

Roland Quisling.

John Boehner.

Birds of a feather.

I am no longer a Republican as of yesterday. I refuse to be in the Stupid Party any longer. No more Lucy holding a football for me.

No more money, prayer, work, getting out the vote, defending the indefensible,hearing better luck next time, and we’ll get’em in 2014.

No more rah-rah. The GOP nailed us all in 2012.

Now, we make them the Whigs of the 21st Century.

Form a new party and create a better future.

One that traitors on both sides of the aisle are not a part of any longer.


29 posted on 12/06/2012 3:49:58 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: wny

That seems to have been the case for the past 50 years.

That’s why the RATS have won the battle for America.


30 posted on 12/06/2012 3:50:49 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: 9YearLurker

The good news is, after “the Bush tax cuts for the rich” expire, liberals can switch to using the term “the obama tax hikes for everyone”


31 posted on 12/06/2012 3:56:28 PM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: silverleaf

If bonehead went to rent a spine and we go off the cliff EVERYONE will get to feel the bite of the Obama tax hikes.

They will however blame Bush for not making the current rates permanent.


32 posted on 12/06/2012 4:18:17 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: jimbo123

Boner the head of the K Street lobbyist party bought and paid for brltway bandits meets to sell out the suckers in the GOP who let him
Seize power in 2000 and drove it onto ground until
Obamacare put the wolf back in charge of the hen house !
And Spend away continues suckers !


33 posted on 12/06/2012 5:20:30 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: jimbo123

Please note the Obama media henchman have never trashed or investigated Boner or Mitchy unlike the non stop witch hunts of Hammer and Newt !
These K street bag man are doing the Dems dirty work and taking all the blame too its perfect !
These K street bag man are just pushing away making sure their ex aides and pals get there tax dollars flowing again !
They will be gone in 2014 !
They need to be hung .


34 posted on 12/06/2012 5:27:37 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: 9YearLurker

“Ummm, if Congress does nothing the Bush tax cuts expire—and taxes go up.”

As was planned to happen, a long time ago. It’s called checkmate.


35 posted on 12/06/2012 5:45:29 PM PST by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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