Skip to comments.Goodbye GOP
Posted on 12/06/2012 9:41:09 PM PST by SaraL
By Mr. Curmudgeon:
Two developments in the Republican Party point to its future: South Carolina's Jim DeMint announced his retirement from the United States Senate to serve as president of the conservative Heritage Foundation, and the Reuters News Service reports that GOP House Speaker John Boehner is purging conservative Tea Party members from key committees "as he seeks to tighten control over his unruly caucus ahead of difficult votes on 'fiscal cliff' issues."
The consolidation of America's one-party state begins.
You see, it matters not how conservative a Republican you send to Congress if his vote (and yours indirectly) is negated by the gelding brothers John Boehner (House) and Mitch McConnell (Senate).
"I've decided to join The Heritage Foundation at a time when the conservative movement needs strong leadership in the battle of ideas," said Sen. DeMint in a statement announcing his departure from the Senate. DeMint told the Wall Street Journal's Dan Henninger, "This is an urgent time, because we saw in the last election we [Republicans] were not able to communicate conservative ideas that win elections."
In short, DeMint had an epiphany: His party's leadership is unable to "communicate conservative ideas" because they and the party they lead are not conservative. And believing they are requires a tortured redefinition of the term "conservative."
I have been a registered Republican my entire adult life. But the neutering of the GOP by its establishment mafia has left me no choice: At the earliest opportunity, I'll part company with the Party of Lincoln and register as an Independent.
I can't support a party that has become nothing more than the women's auxiliary of the Democratic Party.
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I agree with DeMint!
We are wasting our time trying to save the party of idiots!
Sums it up pretty good.
Red Team, Blue Team, Same Team...
How many current members of the House and Senate will be willing to leave the GOP before 2014, and run as candidates of a new conservative party? (Or the Constitution Party?)
It’s time for the GOP to stop putting in the second stringers and get with the program. I keep hearing about a civil war in this country. The commie ‘RATS fired the first shots of Civil War II a long time ago and America has failed to respond. We don’t need two DemocRAT Parties. Not a day goes by when the communists on “da Hill” and in the state controlled “media” aren’t trashing and smearing the TEA Party. I can smell the ‘RATS fear of Americans all the way out here in Arizona. DemocRATs are yellow cowards. They are scared to death of the Americans who call themselves the TEA Party. The only way the ‘RATS can control Americans is by controlling the GOP leadership. I’m pretty sure that all ended on November 6, 2012. Americans have had it with the GOP.
We can leave the GOP (I have) or we collectively speaking, need to sit down and STFU because by our actions in light of the GOPs behavior, we must want to be the right wing plantation dwellers.
That simple folks. All the feet to the fire talk is bs and we all know it. But some still refuse to believe their lyin eyes and ears.
The enemy is us. I am sick and tired of repeating the facts to the willfully deaf. We can hang together as conservatives and BE conservatives or just admit we are the GOP and we want liberalism.
>> leave or STFU
Screw that. We must take ownership of the GOP, and stop disbanding especially after 2010.
I see no reason to follow DeMint.
Where’s the stamina?
The wife and I left the GOP the day after the last “election”. We’re fed up. We watched the GOP candidates, including Romney, get pounded day after day on radio and TV. If it wasn’t for Obama rubber stamp, Ann Kirkpatrick’s (AZ-RAT) filthy, vomit-filled campaign ads in my district, I wouldn’t have even known who was running against her. The GOP acted as though they all believed that Americans hated Obama so much that there was no way he would win reelection and they would ride Romney’s coat tails to DC. Well, that didn’t work out and now we’re stuck with 4 more years of communist antics and greedy money grabbing from Barry and the RATS.
Please explain in great and specific detail how ‘exactly” you overcome an institution filled top down with people who are far closer to Dems than us when they have stripped all mechanisms from the ‘corporate structure’ to do so.
If you want to prop up our opponents, you are every bit the problem.
Why waste my “stamina” running in place.
The GOP of today is the right arm of the communist left.
I’ve voted straight repub ticket since the day I turned 18.
I’m 44 years old. Tomorrow I’m changing my registration to independent.
I’m done with the make-believe stage show put on by the GOP.
This gal has had enough.
I’m a fellow ‘Zonie’ up in the other corner. You should have seen the crap we had running up here as “Republican”.
Reagan as usual was right. The party left me.
The old saying goes, Republicans were put on earth to cut taxes. Boehner is crawfishing and violating the very essence of Republicanism. I believe he is doing this in an effort to save the Republican Party as he understands it, which is the understanding of an elitist inside the Beltway. Boehner is no longer one of seven siblings raised in a bar, he is a careerist politician who is invested in the system as a system not in a Republican philosophy. In trying to save the Republican Party, he will destroy it.
There is apparently no issue on which Boehner is willing to confront the president.
Either the party will revolt against Boehner or there will be a third party splinter movement. Boehner's dithering has only accelerated a tendency which many of us had predicted before the election in the event of a loss by Mitt Romney. There is very little now to hold movement conservatives within the framework of the elitist Republican Party.
Good! May the trend continue!
Psych 101: Never reinforce bad behavior. And the GOP has had 2 decades of bad behavior already.
Don’t fund the RNC/GOP and work locally to elect the right candidates. It’s not complicated.
>> If you want to prop up our opponents, you are every bit the problem.
Yup! I kept thinking that our side was holding their fire until the last minute. They got trampled holding their fire. There was no way Obama Rubber Stamp, Ann Kirkpatrick, deserved to be sent back to Washington. She really stuck it to Arizonans the last time she was there.
>> Im 44 years old. Tomorrow Im changing my registration to independent.
Will that affect your ability to vote in the primaries?
Don’t throw away your tools.
Boy are you gonna get a lot of junk mail.
Gonna answer the question or not? Explain in detail. Don’t just throw out the same tired apologist pap we have heard, tried and FAILed with for 20 years.
Tell me why you believe we should waste money and resource resurrecting a name that has been ground into the dirt. Please. I wanna know where the ‘logic’ lies.
Common sense says leave the albatross behind and begin anew with established principles.
Oh...but I forgot. A bunch of RINO freepers ran around telling people that principle and ‘purity’ were the problem and ‘winning’ was all that mattered.
Look at what they won Johnny!
That’s right hey WON NOTHING BY DOING THE SAME STUPID CRAP YET AGAIN!!
And you apparently like having the GOP rub your nose in it.
So be it.
We need more voters who understand the traditions and benefits of Conservatism much more than we need yet another conservative in the Minority in the Senate where he can’t get anything done.
Bravo to Jim DeMint, with his background and experience this could be the start of taking the country in the right direction. The game for Conservatives has to be be winning hearts and minds, not writing legislation.
Yeah. Right. According to party hacks like yourself, Tuesday at the RNC never happened and this purge of Conservatives must be endured for the sake of 'unity' right?
Look, you are more than welcome to remain a plantation Slave to the Judenrat for the MarxoFascists.
The GOP left Conservatives a long time ago. Most of us simply refused to believe it and were told we had no where else to go.
We're done with the battered wife syndrome, and it's time to separate from a party working with those hell bent on our complete destruction.
I’ve told people for years that I’m a “RINO” because the GOP has failed to carry the banner of conservatism and the traditions of the GOP, thus all that’s left is the name. And I keep threatening to just go ahead and register as Independent and lose that last connection too.
We should all ask ourselves, "Which will be easier to win? A three-party race...or a Republican primary?"
Forming a third party is like raising taxes on the rich. All you've accomplished is punishing the Republican party.
I ask people what is the point of following a party that spends insane amounts of time, money and resource to create a party platform their elected membership openly REFUSE to follow legislatively. What I ask, id the F’ing POINT ?
I’m right there with you.
Ah. “Winning”. Got it.
Just register as a Dem and vote. You will “Win” without any thinking or principle/belief required.
Some of us prefer to ‘win’ what we believe in. Not ‘win’ to empower that which we abhor. But you do as you see fit.
>> Explain in detail ...
Do put that crap on me, pal. Like I need a #ing lecture from someone who took 20 years to figure out the GOP has failed.
In the meantime, we got a Republican party to save with a lot of good guys and gals currently representing various constituencies. They need reinforcements, and that should be the goal for the upcoming midterms. You don’t need to fund the RNC/GOP. Everyone should work locally to replace the RINOs in DC. And don’t insult yourself by asking me what that means ‘in detail’.
Obviously, you failed to grasp my point.
Winning Republican primaries with conservatives is a good thing, don't you think?
I'm curious. Who -- or what -- pissed in your oatmeal and ruined your day?
>> According to party hacks like yourself,....
That in response to my comment about taking control, and holding on to our Tea Party investments?
>> Look, you are more than welcome to remain a plantation Slave to the Judenrat for the MarxoFascists.
Doesn’t fit my Consevative/Libertarian views, but feel free to go on with the arbitrary rant.
You can’t answer. Got it. Nuff said.
It would be. If it helped. But what is the point in wining primaries when GOP corporate actively works to obstruct the new hires? As the convention and Bohner’s latest Democrat move proved beyond doubt.
That their turning against their own (west) proved?
If you want more of it, you can have it.
Oh what the hell. I’ll answer.
People who lack the intelligence to see that they are being used, and revel in it...that is the urea in my cheerios.
And FR is filled with them.
I wish they would live up to the independent conservatism they CLAIM to revere. But I have come to realize they are simply full of sh!t.
They are idiots to us, but perhaps more accurately, most DC Republicans and almost all Democrats belong to the same party, the party of Big Government.
>> Winning Republican primaries with conservatives is a good thing, don’t you think?
I understand their frustration, but I’m not getting the drama.
Yes, we need to work harder at the local level. The nationally focused passion needs to yield Congressional fruit for 2014.
>> People who lack the intelligence... And FR is filled with them.
Okay, “person whom took 20 years to learn his lesson”, how intelligent are you? 150, 175?
I find it funny (as in LOL funny) that a guy is talking about someone else ‘learning lessons’ when he stubbornly defends the same failed process that resulted in our current problem.
FWIW, you might want to ponder that a bit. Because until you understand that doing the same thing and expecting a different result is pretty stupid, you are the poster child for our current dilemma. Have you considered calling a battered spouse hotline? Because you are displaying the very symptoms of people in that situation.
The GOP being the abusive spouse. You making excuses why you/we should keep empowering their abuse.
I agree. We need another 2010 turnout with better Senate options. The entire House is up in 2014 as are a boatload of Senate seats. Republican communities across the Country should withdraw from the GOP establishment and flip the local structures. There are a lot of dirtbags impregnated at various levels in the hierarchy that need to go.
You don’t give a shit what I say if it involves salvaging the Republican party.
You’re pissed, and your current focus on the subject of abuse is unwarranted. Let’s drop it.
Lets not drop it.
Lets have you
A: answer my original question.
B: answer my follow up.
C: explain what you ‘win’ by ‘salvaging’ a party that believes something other than what you claim to.
“Dropping it” is what happens every time enough people get ‘pissed’. Someone in the GOP fanbase always wants to ‘drop it’ rather than address the fact that over 2 decades the GOP has gotten further LEFT than the O’Neil Democrats of the 80s.
So no. A lot of us are not going to ‘drop it’. If you choose to defend the GOP’s actions, then you choose to take the heat along with them.
“fruit for 2014”?????
Wow. Dream on.....there is no 2014 election.
This last election was all fun and games for DC. Bad actors with a joke of a script. And us money bag lemmings donating so the bozo rino’s could funnel money to them and theirs.
Romney faked his way through this worse than McCain.
Watch these people tomorrow. I mean REALLY watch them. You will see they are putting on a stage show.
You are doing exactly what they want you to do. They need us and our money to continue to steal from and burn down our Republic. It is now our fault for letting them
I don't suffer the same cognitive dissonance that you do.
I guess you do not understand that the 2010 TEA Party reps we voted into office are being neutered, rendered irrelevant, being threatened and strong-armed by the Judenrat Ruling Class leadership working with the MarxoFascists. Being forced to comply with the enemy and capitulate.
Perhaps you do not understand what a political PURGE is.
There is no taking control of the GOP or holding onto Conservatism if we remain in the GOP. The leadership hates Conservatives every bit as much as the MarxoFascists do.
Conservatism is being exterminated and rendered irrelevant by the Ruling Class who know where the power is going to lie under a Marxist dictatorship - and they are going to do everything they can to share in it.
Step one is doing the dirty work of the MarxoFascists in purging and obliterating Conservatism from having any voice politically. Judenrat is exactly what the GOP now serves as.
If the rights and principles that define Conservatives is to survive - then we must separate from those in allegiance with the Enemy.
Those that wish to remain slaves on the GOP plantation, we must leave to their fate in an enemy party or risk losing our very souls.
You’re operating under the delusion that we are still a Constitutional Republic not having been overthrown in a velvet Marxist coup.
We saw our last honest elections in 2008. What you saw last month - is going to be the new normal for every single local seat that will determine the balance of power in the dictatorship of D.C.
We’re under enemy occupation. Get your head out of your arse and recognize what time it is. It seems people like you are addicted to practicing insanity.
We can “win” Republican primaries and send people to Washington to be neutered and spayed by the likes of John Boehner, Eric Cantor and Mitch McConnell.
Or we could neuter and spay the RINO’s with a Third Party.
I have no illusions, when a Third Party emerged in Canada to replace the Progressive Conservatives back in the 90’s, it meant a decade of Liberal Party domination.
But its time to force change. As long as the Boehner’s have the power, America loses.
Sorry, but 2010 was an anomoly. We saw the "real" republican party when Bush was president and the pubbies held the house and senate. Not much different in spending and regulations. Of course the dems have REALLY ramped it up, but the only difference is just how quikly the republic will be destroyed.
I no longer believe that the republic is savable, it's rotted from the inside, and the corrupt opportunists of both sides have ensured they'll have majorities from this point on.
Simply put, the USA is dead, and we're now living in the remnants that will continue to swirl around the drain for a while. But eventually, the country will collapse, having become a defacto "democracy" and devolve into a totalitarian state of some sort.
I honestly do not believe that enough men or women of character will come together to reform the republic; That the confluence of men and events in the 1770s was a once in all of history event, and will never happen again.
When that collapse comes, I'm fairly certain I won't survive it: My health isn't very good, and it seems it's getting worse. So I'll be up for evaluation in front of Obama's "death panels" pretty early in... I'm glad I never had children, and I pity my nephews and nieces, especially knowing that every one of their parents voted hard left dem.
Sorry to be so depressing, but I think that we've lost it all.
Heck, Dems don't even have to vote, there are people who will do that for you...
I get it, FRiend, what just happened was the equivalent of "The Night of the Long Knives", politically.
We can't win by backing those who are no longer content to simply throw us under the bus after the election, but who now want to strip us of any meaningful representation in Congress by marginalizing the people we sent there to do our bidding who are most reliable.
Let the Gee Oh Pee go the way of the Whigs.
America will die without a Conservative counterbalance to the Marxists in office.
When the State GOP is willing to cut power to the microphones to prevent dissent and send a slate of delegates to the convention committed to the surviving candidate who got the second most votes in the state (he came in no. 3 in the primaries), when those delegates were supposed to be proportionally assigned, they left me at the State Level.
How do you win at poker when the dealer stacks the deck, and still declares your full house doesn't beat a pair?
You don't play at that table, that's how.
I've been in this fight for a long time, since North Dakota was represented by all democrats in DC, and I have never seen the like.
Like a host of Conservatives, I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!
If John Boehner ram rods tax increases through with no spending cuts just so he can say we avoided a “fiscal cliff”, that will be the last dime the Republicans will ever get from me. I’ll support DeMint.
People who think we MUST work within the Republican party are deluding themselves.
Yesterday on Rush, DeMint stated he was such great friends with Harry Reid. Guess I’m just being picky, and certainly expect civility; but am suspicious of the “good ol’ boy - nod & wink network” in Washington. Just too much of that; one-sided to be sure, as the Dhimmicrats are nasty as snot to their “enemies” and spin, spin, spin the venom all the time. It’s one thing for the Republicans to be “civil” and another to indulge in gullibility. Wheeling and dealing seems to be the order of the day for the Washington insider’s club.