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Nurse who took Kate prank call has been found dead [Possible suicide]
The SUN (UK) ^ | 12-07-2012 | Staff

Posted on 12/07/2012 8:30:27 AM PST by Red Badger

THE nurse who took a prank call from two Australian DJs asking about the pregnant Duchess of Cambridge has been found dead this morning.

Tragic Jacintha Saldanha, 46, is believed to have committed suicide as police are not treating the death as suspicious.

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge were said to be “deeply saddened" by the death of Jacintha, described by the hospital as an "excellent nurse" who was "well respected and popular" with colleagues.

DJs Mel Greig and Michael Christian made the prank call from Down Under, impersonating Prince Charles and the Queen to get information about Kate's condition.

The duo — whose station is notorious for courting controversy — were amazed when their dodgy uppercrust British accents got them put through to Kate's ward.

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4686549/tragedy-as-woman-who-answered-Kate-hoax-found-dead.html#ixzz2ENsDNpy1


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: duplicate; jacinthasaldanha; royals; seemedlikeagoodidea; suicide
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1 posted on 12/07/2012 8:30:33 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Suicide over something like this is a bit drastic and dramatic. Must be a cultural thing, I guess.


2 posted on 12/07/2012 8:33:43 AM PST by ZX12R
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To: Red Badger

I place the blame squarely on those two jerks who pulled this stunt. You take your victim/plaintif/sucker as you find them. Her reaction in no way diminishes their personal misconduct.


3 posted on 12/07/2012 8:37:02 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Red Badger

They’re “very sorry.” Sorry, it doesn’t sound like it to me, from what they said. They should be sorry, for the rest of their misbegotten lives.


5 posted on 12/07/2012 8:40:10 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: longtermmemmory

“I place the blame squarely on those two jerks who pulled this stunt. You take your victim/plaintif/sucker as you find them. Her reaction in no way diminishes their personal misconduct.”

I dont think this outcome was predictable in any way. People dont commit suicide because of prank calls.


6 posted on 12/07/2012 8:41:24 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
I dont think this outcome was predictable in any way. People dont commit suicide because of prank calls.

Because if they did there would be no one left named “Mike Hunt”

7 posted on 12/07/2012 8:45:00 AM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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im not following this...why did she kill herself again? ive read the story, two dj’s pretended to be the queen and charles, etc....and she spoke with them about 15 mins....what was the reason she offed herself ?


8 posted on 12/07/2012 8:48:12 AM PST by raygunfan
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To: ZX12R

In today’s world of over-sensitivity in privacy matters, she probably got a severe butt chewing over the embarrassment it caused the hospital. The DJ’s should have foreseen that it would have endangered the nurse’s employment. But they probably could care less. It marred her professional record. I wonder how funny the DJ’s find it now?


9 posted on 12/07/2012 8:48:20 AM PST by Brownie63
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To: Red Badger

Tragic, but boring. A boring tragedy. Can we at least throw in some fantastical conspiracy theories?


10 posted on 12/07/2012 8:51:16 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: Red Badger

You can’t blame the DJs. It is not remotely normal or predictable for somebody to commit suicide over a prank call. Its possible that she was facing demotion/punishment for being careless with regards to the “royalty,” but how could the DJs have imagined this happening.


11 posted on 12/07/2012 8:51:16 AM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: Usagi_yo

“Tragic, but boring. A boring tragedy. Can we at least throw in some fantastical conspiracy theories?”

I think its pretty obvious that she was murdered by the Queen.


12 posted on 12/07/2012 8:54:21 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

The eggshell skull rule (or thin skull rule or you take your victim as you find him rule of the common law) is a well established legal doctrine used in some tort law systems,[1] with a similar doctrine applicable to criminal law. It increases the liability of a person who may commit a tort against another, from results arising out of those tortious acts.

708 F.2d 1217, citing Prosser, Handbook of the Law of Torts 261 (4th ed. 1971)

These shock jocks are screwed in civil OR criminal law. Foreseeability of a special weakness is no excuse.


13 posted on 12/07/2012 8:57:44 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Red Badger
Perhaps the call was a wake up call regarding this girl and no one was paying attention to her problems...just the phone calls.

I'm sure Kate and William are devastated.

14 posted on 12/07/2012 8:58:09 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

I think she was killed because she saw the x-rays and sonigrams of the Baby. She saw two fetus, one a doberman pincer and the other a small boy with 666 on it’s head.


15 posted on 12/07/2012 8:59:36 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: Red Badger
Just what private information did this receptionist release that was of any consequence???

Everyone and their royal-worshipping mother knew she was in that hospital and what she was there for.

The fuss over this prank call was beyond ridiculous.

16 posted on 12/07/2012 9:00:20 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Sure you can blame the DJs. You can blame them for making a prank call, ie, taking advantage of an innocent person's good faith and trust and making her look like an idiot, besides having dishonestly induced her most likely to have violated privacy guidelines. I blame the DJs for being a--holes in the first place.
17 posted on 12/07/2012 9:12:23 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: longtermmemmory

“These shock jocks are screwed in civil OR criminal law. Foreseeability of a special weakness is no excuse.”

By that logic if someone were to (God forbid) kill themselves immediately after reading this post I could be brought up on charges.

Good luck convincing a jury that she killed herself because of the call and not some other cause.


18 posted on 12/07/2012 9:14:56 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Red Badger

Very sad. RIP


19 posted on 12/07/2012 9:16:35 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Brownie63
I recall the Sam Adams radio contest a few years back.

They offered points for having sex in specific locations.

Two idiots decided to have sex in St Patrick's in NYC.

They were caught, and the day that the guy was to be sentenced, he died.

No parole from the sentence he got.

20 posted on 12/07/2012 9:20:07 AM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: Usagi_yo

“I think she was killed because she saw the x-rays and sonigrams of the Baby. She saw two fetus, one a doberman pincer and the other a small boy with 666 on it’s head.”

We know she had motive and as Queen she can effortlessly travel to the victim’s residence. Want to bet she wont provide an alibi for the time of death?


21 posted on 12/07/2012 9:24:46 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Usagi_yo

I certainly hope the next death of a fellow human being is far more entertaining for you...


22 posted on 12/07/2012 9:25:37 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

did your post cause the person to kill themselves? if the answer is yes then yes IF it can be proven.

The DJ’s have the liability and a case can be brought to court. Proof sufficient to carry the burden standard is a different issue altogether.

That is eggshell skull principle.

It is looooooooooong established in the courts.


23 posted on 12/07/2012 9:29:49 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Red Badger

This is just horrible. I wonder if the hospital did chew her out, thinking that the royal fmily would no longer have them as “hospital of choice.” Shame on the hospital administrators if so.no one prepped this woman; she just answered the phone and did her best.

I’d think just taking that call and being fooled wouldn’t cause such shame, but being told she might ruin the hospital’s reputation could. She was probably a very conscientious worker. I hope someone talks about what the hospital may have said.


24 posted on 12/07/2012 9:33:49 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Red Badger

I don’t think you can say that “this was just a prank call”. It was recorded, played on a major radio station and made international headlines.


25 posted on 12/07/2012 9:34:53 AM PST by Tenlein
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To: Red Badger
prank
26 posted on 12/07/2012 9:36:18 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: longtermmemmory

“The DJ’s have the liability and a case can be brought to court. Proof sufficient to carry the burden standard is a different issue altogether.”

Its true that they may have a problem in Civil court since the burden of proof is less, at least in the US, dont know about England. If it goes to court they may to try them in absentia since there may be extradition issues.


27 posted on 12/07/2012 9:38:19 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Red Badger

The radio jerks made it worse with their BS “apology”.


28 posted on 12/07/2012 9:40:22 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Yaelle

perhaps it was just so unthinkable.

but for their prank she would not be subject to such ridicule. The fact that she was of a mind to committ suicide over the issue is the DJ’s problem not hers.


29 posted on 12/07/2012 9:40:22 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Why are you blaming the victim? This woman was not a public figure. She was professionally and publicly humiliated.

It’s so easy for us to monday morning quarterback what her reaction should be but we didn’t walk a mile in her shoes.


30 posted on 12/07/2012 9:43:49 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

actually it may be easier in criminal court.

England allows for eggshell skull principles.

There is nothing stopping a dual track path where both are pursued.

The COULD have forseen that this woman’s life would be destroyed by their prank. They COULD have forseen people would be fired because of this prank.


31 posted on 12/07/2012 9:48:24 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

It is looooooooooong established in the courts.


So you should have no problem providing a few examples of cases as absurd as this where the plaintiff was found guilty or liable for an exorbitant amount of damages.


32 posted on 12/07/2012 9:49:24 AM PST by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Romney did in 2012)
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To: lodi90

You must agree that suicude is an extreme rxn to falling for a prank call.


33 posted on 12/07/2012 9:52:38 AM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: bramps

^ 708 F.2d 1217, citing Prosser, Handbook of the Law of Torts 261 (4th ed. 1971)

from canada too:
http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/scc/doc/1996/1996canlii183/1996canlii183.html
This appeal involved a straightforward application of the thin skull rule. The pre-existing disposition may have aggravated the injuries, but the defendant must take the plaintiff as he finds him. If the defendant’s negligence exacerbated the existing condition and caused it to manifest in a disc herniation, then the defendant is a cause of the disc herniation and is fully liable.

Schmude v. Tricam Indus., 556 F.3d 624, 628 (7th Cir. Wis. 2009)If a tortfeasor inflicts a graver loss on his victim than one would have expected because the victim had some pre-existing vulnerability, that is the tortfeasor’s bad luck; you take your victim as you find him.


34 posted on 12/07/2012 9:59:44 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: bramps

see also the young girl who suicided as a result of cyber stalking/bullying by her peers.

The liability is crystal clear.


35 posted on 12/07/2012 10:03:26 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Sorry, the era of prank calls has pretty much come to an end. Today they are more correctly seen as vicious harassment and bullying, not “pranks”.

Not too long ago, radicals were calling military families with soldiers fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, pretending to be from the Red Cross or the military, and telling them that their family member had been killed.

Some radio stations were doing things like calling up people and telling them that their significant other was cheating on them; or were acting as proxies when one person wanted to break up with another. “Your boyfriend asked us to tell you that it’s over and he doesn’t want to see or talk to you anymore.”

Such “pranks” are intentionally designed to cause hurt, strife, deep humiliation or even violence.


36 posted on 12/07/2012 10:08:08 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: longtermmemmory
I place the blame squarely on those two jerks who pulled this stunt.

As if they knew that the prank would cause her to commit suicide or any other kind of harm. Come on. This women transferred the call through to the nurse who gave the information to the DJ's about Middleton's condition.

She wasn't even on the radio. Something loose in this women's mind was the only thing that you should blame for this suicide leaving a Husband and two young children to pick up the pieces.

37 posted on 12/07/2012 10:15:28 AM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: Brownie63
In today’s world of over-sensitivity in privacy matters, she probably got a severe butt chewing over the embarrassment it caused the hospital.

It's possible, that a butt chewing was not the worst of her problems. Breaking patient confidentiality could have been a career ending mistake for this young woman.

That would certainly be more likely to lead her to suicide than just a butt chewing.

38 posted on 12/07/2012 10:16:51 AM PST by Bronzewound
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To: longtermmemmory

Seems as if the middle schools closed early for “Winter Holiday” this year, it’s raining outside and the juveniles are bored.


39 posted on 12/07/2012 10:29:57 AM PST by Roccus
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To: fungoking

or Hugh Jorgan


40 posted on 12/07/2012 10:33:45 AM PST by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

It’s not just the call. It’s the barrage of public humiliation that followed that obviously drove her over the edge. Some things are just not funny. Pranking a hospital about a pregnant woman is one of them.

The pop culture that pushes this dribble is destructive and here we see the results of it.


41 posted on 12/07/2012 10:36:07 AM PST by lodi90
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To: longtermmemmory
Whoever sues on her behalf should be at least 50% complicit for ever letting her out of their sight.
42 posted on 12/07/2012 10:45:42 AM PST by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Romney did in 2012)
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To: Cicero

Some people just want to be famous no matter how they get there. Look at reality TV and some of the disgusting personalities that have become household names. (Snooki, Paris Hilton etc...) They’re more famous now than they ever imagined.

This controversy will fade but they will still be known, if only in Australia.

If they are truly sorry, the should cancel the show and fade away never to be heard from again. But they really aren’t sorry.


43 posted on 12/07/2012 10:53:16 AM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: raygunfan
She was initially thought to be a receptionist at the hospital but is now said to have beeen a nurse staffing the switchboard .
44 posted on 12/07/2012 11:01:19 AM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: Usagi_yo
I think she was killed because she saw the x-rays and sonigrams of the Baby. She saw two fetus, one a doberman pincer and the other a small boy with 666 on it’s head.

You are bad.

45 posted on 12/07/2012 11:08:45 AM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: Red Badger
Ever since this prank call happened, I've been a bit worried about the other nurse, the one who actually gave out information about Kate. If anyone got in trouble with the hospital, I would think it would be she. If the woman who killed herself got in trouble just for transferring the call, I can only imagine the trouble the other nurse got. I hope she's all right and someone is keeping tabs on her.
46 posted on 12/07/2012 11:19:28 AM PST by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: Red Badger

I can’t see suicide over something so minor. Makes no sense. And while the DJs in question are moronic like most these days. I don’t see them as responsible that she was so unstable.


47 posted on 12/07/2012 4:28:58 PM PST by Perhaps Today
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To: ZX12R
Her suicide may or may not be directly related to this prank call. Normally things build up over some time with suicides, and this was probably not the direct cause, or it might just have been the final trigger. Perhaps further investigation will shed more light.

Personally, I've never considered "practical" jokes to be either very funny or in any way practical. On the contrary, they are often very cruel and hurt people a great deal. Well, no ones laughing now are they?

48 posted on 12/08/2012 9:54:14 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Red Badger
Weird, I thought they were American.

I would have thought an Australian could do a better English accent.

49 posted on 12/08/2012 10:15:20 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: bramps

her children?

this is no different than “Fire in a crowded theater”

look up eggshell skull and see how the law works in this.

In a criminal case there is no proportionate division.


50 posted on 12/08/2012 2:04:55 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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