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Day 1 of Legal Pot Marred by Deaths at Alleged Washington 'Growing Center'
ABC News ^ | 3 hours ago | By Sarah Parnass |

Posted on 12/07/2012 4:01:14 PM PST by drewh

The first day of legal marijuana use in Washington State was marred by an attempted robbery ending with two deaths at an alleged pot-growing facility just south of Seattle.

The possession of pot became legal in the state Thursday after voters passed a measure decriminalizing it in November. Day two kicked off with more celebrations under the Space Needle tower, the Seattle Post-Intelligencer reported, but the Pierce County Sheriff's Department investigated an attempted robbery in Puyallup at an alleged growing center foiled by a homeowner who shot two alleged burglars in front of his 9-year-old son.

Officers say they arrived at the home of the man, 35, Thursday to find two masked men dead on the floor and marijuana plants in the attic, ABC affiliate KOMO-TV News reported.

While the law passed in November made it legal to carry and consume marijuana, Sgt. Sean Whitcomb of the Seattle Police Department said cultivating and selling the drug outside of medical dispensaries is still a crime.

"When you're engaged in that type of criminal activity, there is an element of risk," Whitcomb told ABC News Friday.

The legislation leaves Washington in a "murky place," Whitcomb said. Smokers who have purchased marijuana from a street dealer are in the clear.

The U.S. Attorney's office in Seattle sent out a statement Wednesday reminding residents that pot is still illegal under federal law and cannot be brought onto federal property.

An ABC News poll released shortly after the election, 48 percent of Americans expressed support for legalizing marijuana.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: dopers; flatliners; legalpot; potheads
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1 posted on 12/07/2012 4:01:17 PM PST by drewh
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To: drewh

growing pot in front of his 9 year old, how libertarian of them


2 posted on 12/07/2012 4:07:28 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: drewh
Smokers who have purchased marijuana from a street dealer are in the clear.

So you can smoke it, buy it from a street dealer, but you can't grow it.

3 posted on 12/07/2012 4:08:21 PM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: drewh

“the Pierce County Sheriff’s Department investigated an attempted robbery in Puyallup at an alleged growing center foiled by a homeowner who shot two alleged burglars in front of his 9-year-old son”

They arrived and found two masked men home invaders shot dead. How does THAT marr the day? The homeowner saved himself and his kid.


4 posted on 12/07/2012 4:11:36 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: drewh
i somehow doubt that killing somebody for trying to steal something that is illegal, is legal...
5 posted on 12/07/2012 4:12:39 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: GeronL

It says he shot two perps in front of his 9 year old. I missed the part that said he grew and smoked in front of his child. Which paragraph was that?


6 posted on 12/07/2012 4:17:23 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: umgud
So you can smoke it, buy it from a street dealer, but you can't grow it.

Next up..

You can eat it (tomatoes), buy it from a street vendors, but you can't grow it.

7 posted on 12/07/2012 4:21:40 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: drewh

Grow Centers are the new stash houses.


8 posted on 12/07/2012 4:22:15 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: drewh

Oh yay! We can smoke marijuana legally!

My life will get so much better now!

Little by little, we are changing the
world for the better.

/sarc


9 posted on 12/07/2012 4:22:36 PM PST by WKTimpco (Traditional Values Counter Revolution)
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To: APatientMan

I missed the part where the shooting happened NOT at an illegal pot growing house where the man and his son lived.

If he was defending his illegal operation from other criminals he should get life in prison. Clean sweep when there is a criminal on criminal shooting and the shooter gets put away.


10 posted on 12/07/2012 4:26:50 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

You said he grew pot in front of his son. Was there something in the article that led to your assertion? You’re changing the subject.


11 posted on 12/07/2012 4:31:51 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Chode

They could have been trying to steal grandma’s fine silver, or the copper condenser coil out of my A/C unit.


12 posted on 12/07/2012 4:32:28 PM PST by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Chode

“i somehow doubt that killing somebody for trying to steal something that is illegal, is legal.”

Usually not legal to kill for stealing something legal either. His defense will be two masked men attempting an armed robbery. His right to defense is even finer inside his home, with his 9 year old home with him.

Just because you are doing something illegal in your house, doesn’t mean you no longer have a right to defend yourself from violence.


13 posted on 12/07/2012 4:33:17 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: APatientMan

It’s his HOUSE and his son was there with him at the illegal pot growing operation.

That is why I surmise that his son was with him at the illegal pot growing operation.

Because he was.


14 posted on 12/07/2012 4:33:57 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: drewh

Great news that the two homebreakers wound up dead. Only thing that would have made the story better is if the dopehead homeowner had ended up dead too.


15 posted on 12/07/2012 4:34:29 PM PST by greene66
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To: GeronL

So you’re making it up. Thanks.


16 posted on 12/07/2012 4:35:56 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: APatientMan

The article said his 9-year old son was with him and that it happened at his illegal pot farm.

The article says that.


17 posted on 12/07/2012 4:38:48 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: drewh
Couple of home invaders got shot for their trouble.

He took two violent criminals off the street, and saved everyone else the possiblity of being their next victim, and/or the cost of trial and incarceration.

What's the problem?

18 posted on 12/07/2012 4:39:16 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: greene66
That is insane.

I'm willing to bet that you are some kind of "dopehead". Booze, caffeine, tobacco, OTC or prescription medication.

19 posted on 12/07/2012 4:39:34 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: DesertRhino
nowhere in the article does it say they were armed... p.s. i have no problem with them getting shot
20 posted on 12/07/2012 4:40:40 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: GeronL

It says he was growing pot in his attic. My wife and I do all kinds of things that my 9 year old doesn’t know about. You made an assumption that isn’t backed up by the article because that assumption supports your argument.


21 posted on 12/07/2012 4:41:00 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: GeronL
And if they didn't get killed but killed the father and boy, who would blame them - it's the fault of an illegal operation to being with. After all, the father created the mess.

If someone broke into a NY house because they were thirsty - so the owner gave them a 32 oz of soda and he shot the homeowner, all would well with the killer because of the illegal 32 oz cups. Gotcha!/s

22 posted on 12/07/2012 4:41:27 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: elkfersupper

Hopefully the guy will be charged for the illegal pot growing operation.

....

lolz... if someone has ever eaten chocolate they are hypocrites for opposing legalized drugs!

hahahhahaha

And you probably wonder why people don’t take that seriously.


23 posted on 12/07/2012 4:42:29 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: drewh

You do not lose the basic inalienable right to defend home and family because of the genus of your potted plant.


24 posted on 12/07/2012 4:46:07 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: Delta 21

Yep. A criminal will always take what is available - what is illegal doesn’t matter to them. There is no telling what they really where after - just that they are after what isn’t theirs.


25 posted on 12/07/2012 4:46:35 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: GeronL

“If he was defending his illegal operation from other criminals he should get life in prison”

Yeah, neat concept until some gun owner is unknowingly in violation of arcane gun law, and shoots some home invaders who came to steal. And once again, another law intended for stopping drug dealers will be turned full fury against everyone else.

Every draconian law people suggest as a cool way to fight drugs turns into another tool for the government to strip us of more freedom.


26 posted on 12/07/2012 4:47:29 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: GeronL
And you probably wonder why people don’t take that seriously.

No, I don't wonder. I know.

I would call you a hypocrite, but you would take that as a compliment.

27 posted on 12/07/2012 4:49:54 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: DesertRhino

One criminal shooting and killing another criminal makes it easy for everyone. Low hanging fruit.

No new laws needed.


28 posted on 12/07/2012 4:50:21 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: APatientMan

lol

It was so secret that these home invaders knew about it.

BTW, if they weren’t armed I guess the anti-gunners and civil rights crowd (if they were minority) will be going nuts.


29 posted on 12/07/2012 4:51:38 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Chode

It says “attempted robbery”. Thats stealing by force or threat of force. As opposed to burglary which is entering unlawfully and stealing.
Robbery is already something he can use force to defend against, armed or not. But unless some new peace fad has broken out, im willing to bet that two masked men committing a robbery against a grow operation were not going in unarmed.


30 posted on 12/07/2012 4:52:21 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: elkfersupper; Morgana

eating chocolate or drinking a soda makes me a hypocrite for opposing legalized drugs that people KILL over.

......

Pot is legal there, there is no way this could possibly happen.


31 posted on 12/07/2012 4:52:53 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

stupidity , that is society today.

turd pokers can marry, druggies getting high in public and growing drugs with teir kids there and we’re told to not mention social issues.

I remember a couple of years ago some idiot on here said he woudl have no problem a daughter marrying the father.

Society has gone down and those who stayed silent and told conservatives to shut up only helped America get to this mess.

BTW, For anyone saying I;m old and we’ve moved on , well I’;m not old , neither is my wife and my young children will be brought up with morals, traditions and they will speak up


32 posted on 12/07/2012 4:54:56 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: GeronL

Just curious - If my cousin in N.C. has his 9 year old cut and stack wood that he later uses to run his still - how much time in prison should he get for running a still with the aid of his 9 year old?


33 posted on 12/07/2012 4:55:39 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: GeronL
Pot is legal there, there is no way this could possibly happen.

Well, you can always blame it on the gun.

34 posted on 12/07/2012 4:55:55 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GeronL

If you think that there is no time that your neighbors would kill you for your chocolate or your soda, you are delusional.


35 posted on 12/07/2012 4:56:10 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: umgud
So you can smoke it, buy it from a street dealer, but you can't grow it.

Sort of short sighted for the Seattle bright lights IMHO.

36 posted on 12/07/2012 4:56:23 PM PST by yoe
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To: APatientMan

Is the still anywhere near the wood cutting?


37 posted on 12/07/2012 5:02:13 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: DesertRhino
that's assuming that the reporter knows her azz from a hole in the ground... i doubt she even knows she the difference, and if they had weapons, it prolly would of been in the story

he better have a damn good lawyer and a LOT of money

38 posted on 12/07/2012 5:02:47 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: drewh

Some more details.

The home was described as a “luxury” home, with a 6-car garage. The two dead perps were not known to the police, and they are trying to determine their ID by autopsy fingerprints.

The perps were dressed in black, with face bandannas, and though it was assumed they were looking for drugs and cash, that in the process they may have intended to kill the homeowner should not be discounted.


39 posted on 12/07/2012 5:06:43 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: GeronL

The still is on his property.

Follow up question. Two guys sneak onto his property, creep up on his still while he’s there and try to rob him. He shoots the two guys. How much prison time should he get?


40 posted on 12/07/2012 5:06:50 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: drewh; Liz; AT7Saluki
celebrations under the Space Needle tower

I hear they turned off the elevators. Folks just floated to the top.

41 posted on 12/07/2012 5:07:13 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: APatientMan

however much you get for running a still and discharging a firearm in the commission of a crime.


42 posted on 12/07/2012 5:10:27 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Thanks for your answer. We disagree. I’m biased myself too though. If the scenario was about a crack house I’d have a different take. Guess I’ll have to mull it over some more.


43 posted on 12/07/2012 5:13:58 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: drewh

I warned some co-workers who live up in Washington of this very thing happening. It reminded me of the late 80’s in Michigan when bandits were robbing crack houses for cash, including some people from the law enforcement community. Guess those people didn’t believe me. Drug dealers make a perfect target for armed robbery.


44 posted on 12/07/2012 5:14:55 PM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: elkfersupper

Nope. Never drank, never smoked. Don’t take any prescription medicine. An occasional aspirin for a headache. I drink my share of RC Cola, which obviously has caffeine.

And I don’t equate my drinking an RC Cola to some degenerate brain-dead, dope-peddling, reefer-smoking piece of human trash.


45 posted on 12/07/2012 5:17:33 PM PST by greene66
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To: Chode

“that’s assuming that the reporter knows her azz from a hole in the ground... i doubt she even knows she the difference,”

Yet, we count on this same reporter to dutifully tell us if the intruders were armed? Anyway, 2 masked intruders come inside your house, and your 9 year old kid is there. He’ll be fine. And i’m betting a Washington state jury will be sympathetic to a guy who grows in his attic.


46 posted on 12/07/2012 5:19:46 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: drewh

This is how much the “War on Drugs” has corrupted even the very concept of freedom in the USA - we’ve got a bunch of Freepers who are actually arguing that this man had no right to defend his home from masked robbers because he had some pot plants in his attic. You get that? Grow a plant in your attic, and suddenly even “conservatives” think that all of your God-given rights like self-defense (life, liberty, property?) go right out the window. But as long as we make those dope-smoking hippies pay, f*** the Constitution!


47 posted on 12/07/2012 5:20:56 PM PST by fr_freak
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It’s his HOUSE and his son was there with him at the illegal pot growing operation. I surmise that his son was with him at the illegal pot growing operation. Because he was.

Did you, also, surmise the son HAD to be in the attic? After all, it's in the house.

The homeowner should/may be fined and probation for growing it illegally (that's his crime) but you want him in jail for life. Originally, you said it was a farm while the article states attic. Why the need to embellish against the homeowner? Isn't it bad enough?

48 posted on 12/07/2012 5:21:31 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: APatientMan

crack?

How can be for crack to be illegal? That means the “drug war” will have to continue. It will continue until the federal government is subsidizing handing out cocaine to elementary school students right before sodomy class.


49 posted on 12/07/2012 5:22:55 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

“How can be for crack to be illegal? “

You lost me. You got any of them special kinda plants the government thinks should be banned?


50 posted on 12/07/2012 5:26:16 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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