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F-16 engines stolen from Israeli army base
F-16.net ^ | Dec 7 2012 | Lieven Dewitte

Posted on 12/08/2012 12:58:57 AM PST by Jet Jaguar

Israel's military police are investigating the theft of F-16 fighter plane engines from an military base in central Israel, with the military suspecting that the thieves had inside help. The F-16C/D 'Barak' jets were undergoing repairs.

The base commander contacted the military police after discovering the engines missing. There were no details how many engines or engine parts were stolen but the radio report said the estimated worth is the millions of dollars.

The thieves seems to have been assisted by someone within the base. Among other things, there is the fact that there was no damage to the base's perimeter fence. This leads investigators to believe that the thieves went in and out through the gates. This would have to be done with a large vehicle, since the engines weigh over 1.5 tons and are more than 15 feet long.

No suspects have been arrested yet but the most likely possibility is that the engines were stolen by Arab metal thieves, weapons dealers or terror-related agents. The theft marks a low point in its ability to secure its own bases.

In July, Bedouin metal thieves infiltrated the IDF base at Tze'elim in the Negev and stole crates of ammunition, which the IDF insists were empty. The Bedouins entered the base on SUVs.

In May, two bullet-proof military jeeps were stolen from the Ketziot base in southern Israel. The jeeps both carried military equipment.

In January, the theft of 1,500 tank shells from an IDF munitions base in the South was reported. Several people have been charged, and the Military Police launched an investigation against commanders and soldiers suspected of involvement in the huge theft.

In a similar incident last year, the Israeli military police conducted an investigation after parts for F-15s and F-16s belonging to an airbase near Tel Aviv were found when police searched a warehouse used by scrap metal merchants.

[Editorial note: Some sources currently state that only parts of the engine were stolen.]


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: f16

1 posted on 12/08/2012 12:59:06 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Sparky1776; militant2; TaMoDee; freedumb2003; PERKY2004
F-16 Ping.


2 posted on 12/08/2012 1:02:14 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

Is that an F-16 engine in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?


3 posted on 12/08/2012 1:04:22 AM PST by MetaThought
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To: Jet Jaguar

Sounds like the IDF has a security problem.


4 posted on 12/08/2012 2:04:56 AM PST by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan

Maybe they’ve gotten complacent since the Fence reduced domestic terrorism to a smidgeon. Hope this serves as a wakeup call.


5 posted on 12/08/2012 2:09:39 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

To be honest, massive theft is widespread in Israel’s military. Every single item down to a clothes and tableware left unattanded gets “liberated” by fellow soldiers. They call it “sper” - a cross word between Russian “spyor” - heist and English “spare”.
I heard once Israel’s military has declared an amnesty for soldiers&former soldiers to give stolen property back and they were barely able to handle all the stuff they got back including expensive communication equipment, vehicle parts and even firearms with ammo. One person turned in a speedboat.


6 posted on 12/08/2012 2:16:51 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Jet Jaguar

It was common knowledge during WWII equipment would be “liberated” by members of line units for their use from units way behind the lines. That may be the case here.


7 posted on 12/08/2012 2:24:33 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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To: mosesdapoet
Pappy Boynton's Baa Baa Black Sheep?

Let's hope so, 'cause if that ain't the situation, there's more reason than ever to disavow anything even approaching muslim/arab.

8 posted on 12/08/2012 3:27:39 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're truePRIMO !!)
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To: Jet Jaguar
No suspects have been arrested yet but the most likely possibility is that the engines were stolen by Arab metal thieves, weapons dealers or terror-related agents. The theft marks a low point in its ability to secure its own bases.

Arab metal thieves? Terror-related agents? Such pure unadulterated hogwash! So, Arab metal thieves managed to get entire engines from an Israeli military installation?

This is what happened. A corrupt Israeli official sold them to contacts working for the Chinese. Not to 'Arab metal dealers' or 'terrorists.' Chinese.

My support for Israel is absolute. 100% pro Israel. But I am not stupid. There are some areas that are not water tight, and in the past there has been some clear leakage of technology (eg the Lavi fighter prototype that is one of the fathers of the Chinese J-10).

9 posted on 12/08/2012 3:53:11 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Jet Jaguar

it was I . I am hot rodding a stearman and almost settled for a chevy small block.


10 posted on 12/08/2012 4:08:57 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

LOL!

I had visions of some Palis tooling around town in a hot ‘57 Buick or something.


11 posted on 12/08/2012 4:17:32 AM PST by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: Vaquero

Can I go with you when you take it in for inspection? I’d like to be there when they stick that probe in the tailpipe and tell you to start it up to check the emission levels.


12 posted on 12/08/2012 4:21:38 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

LOL! Mysteriously it passed...


13 posted on 12/08/2012 4:28:13 AM PST by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: knarf
Pappy Boynton's(sic) Baa Baa Black Sheep?

The TV show was mostly fiction.

14 posted on 12/08/2012 4:42:09 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Insider help??

Yes: and a lot of it.

Help at the gate, help loading the things,help in knowing where to find them.

Sounds more like Israel was involved in the “theft”


15 posted on 12/08/2012 6:27:13 AM PST by Venturer
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Yeah, I found that out later, but the black sheep were real p40 (I think) rebel pilots flying out of Burma


16 posted on 12/08/2012 6:30:53 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're truePRIMO !!)
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To: knarf; A.A. Cunningham

Boyington flew for the Chinese, the Flying Tigers, in China and then trasfered back to the US Marines in the Pacific. He was commander of a Marine Squadron VMF 214 I believe and made many kills, and was shot down more than once I believe. He was captured and imprisoned.


17 posted on 12/08/2012 6:40:35 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
The TV show was mostly fiction.

Yes, despite having Boyington himself as a production consultant. Some of the other members of VMF-214 were a bit offended at being portrayed as a bunch of screw-ups just inches away from a court-martial. Pappy *was* an unconventional CO (and accurately portrayed as far as the drinking and brawling), but the rest of the pilots were remarkable mostly for their skill.

18 posted on 12/08/2012 6:57:31 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Sold to CHINA, for sure. To be used against OUR very own pilots.

Same with the Lavi; thrown into the laps of our enemies.

Thanks, Israel.


19 posted on 12/08/2012 6:57:31 AM PST by gaijin
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To: Jet Jaguar
No suspects have been arrested yet but the most likely possibility is that the engines were stolen by Arab metal thieves, weapons dealers or terror-related agents.

Right. Just like those Arab desert traders who discovered the downed Israeli jet in "The Sum of All Fears."

20 posted on 12/08/2012 7:05:04 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: spetznaz
This is what happened. A corrupt Israeli official sold them to contacts working for the Chinese. Not to 'Arab metal dealers' or 'terrorists.' Chinese.

Such a ray of pure clarity is always a relief from the fetid, swirling miasma of propaganda and ignorance that gets churned out daily by the media news organizations.

21 posted on 12/08/2012 7:06:27 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: gaijin

Even with a thousand knives to their throats they pull this, and do you know why..? Because they know we take seriously the part of the Bible that says God smiles on those who help Israel. In fact they know we take it so seriously that we would continue to do so even to our detriment, and for a long time, too.

Israel considers the USA as a pack of slobbering rich goyim suckers who DESERVE to get fleece.

Even with chem shells to the north loaded and nukes being assembled to the east they STILL devote mindshare to the question, “How might I screw over my erstwhile buddy...?”

They DESERVE Barack Obama and maybe even their bad neighbors...?


22 posted on 12/08/2012 7:11:55 AM PST by gaijin
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To: knarf

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23 posted on 12/08/2012 7:13:59 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Damn scrappers, looks like Israel has them too.....


24 posted on 12/08/2012 7:18:22 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Jet Jaguar

F-16 engines disappear, but if one goes down in a bombing raid on Syria or Iran, or both, plausible deniability?


25 posted on 12/08/2012 7:36:54 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: Jet Jaguar

I suggest they check out the Bonneville salt flats in the next week or two.....I think there is a crew trying to set the land speed record for a Winnebago.


26 posted on 12/08/2012 8:00:12 AM PST by Donkey Odious ( Adapt, improvise, and overcome - now a motto for us all.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Found 'em:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApJAgUBEQdw

What's Hebrew for "Sunday, Sunday, Sunday!" ?

27 posted on 12/08/2012 8:29:04 AM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Vaquero; 2111USMC


28 posted on 12/08/2012 3:56:00 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: freedumb2003

I think I read a “Darwin Award” story about this very car.


29 posted on 12/08/2012 4:05:38 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Well, they tried again to make one to jump — and it had the standard Mythbusters ending: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hru0z9WJwKo

Start at 1:15


30 posted on 12/08/2012 4:44:34 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: Jet Jaguar; Vaquero

I bought it one piece at a time and it didn’t cost me a dime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2riRAGzNzvQ


31 posted on 12/08/2012 9:07:14 PM PST by Redcitizen (.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; Vaquero

I got it one piece at a time and it didn’t cost me a dime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2riRAGzNzvQ

(oops, didnt proofread)


32 posted on 12/08/2012 9:11:18 PM PST by Redcitizen (.)
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33 posted on 12/09/2012 5:46:49 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

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34 posted on 12/09/2012 5:47:45 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Can they sell it or can they only get scrap value from it. My guess is the latter.


35 posted on 12/09/2012 6:57:09 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything)
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