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Walmart security shoots mother-of-2 shoplifting suspect dead in parking lot as she tries to flee
Daily Mail UK ^ | 8 Dec 2012 | James Nye

Posted on 12/08/2012 10:26:35 AM PST by smokingfrog

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To: American in Israel
All crime, no matter how petty can lead to bad results....sometimes death. Solution don't steal other peoples property. In Texas if you catch one on your property stealing you are legally within your rights to kill them. I would not hesitate to do so!!!
101 posted on 12/08/2012 12:20:01 PM PST by ontap
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To: American in Israel

I’d suggest that you stick to pandering to peace loving Palis and keep yourself out of the war zone in the once and future Republic of Texas.


102 posted on 12/08/2012 12:20:39 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Charles Martel
This was at Walmart. They have a NASA capable camera array on the roof taking in every square inch of the parking lot, and, word has it, the bottoms of the toilets lest gangbangers and MS13 members carve initials in them!

They have it all on film ~

But as I always say no bullet holes in the front windshield, nobody was trying to run you down!

103 posted on 12/08/2012 12:21:18 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Ditter
I am in Houston and I saw this on our local news last night. They said the officer was being dragged by the car and feared he was going to go under it and be run over. They showed a photo of his shoes in the parking lot where he was pulled out of them.

I knew there had to be more to this story than what the cop haters have posted.

104 posted on 12/08/2012 12:22:00 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf

There always is!!!


105 posted on 12/08/2012 12:23:36 PM PST by ontap
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To: American in Israel

“I am disgusted at how little life is held as treasure these days. Do something people don’t like and you get the thumbs down in the Arena.

Stupid, stupid man.”

Exercising your Inner Liberal, I see.

As a self described Christian, and having lived in Israel, how can you not understand the Commandment “Don’t Steal”.

Just because she is black, why does she have a right to keep stealing from Walmart. Note the “keep stealing” because she was caught once before and was violating both the Court order and a certain Commandment.

As for her being a mother of two, want to bet on her being mommie to a couple of welfare bastards whelped for the welfare money she gets for having borne them?

If you have a reason why she should be allowed to steal, please post them, as I would be quite curious about why you seem to consider her death a wrongful one.


106 posted on 12/08/2012 12:23:55 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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. I'm not even sure your tirade deserves a response. .
107 posted on 12/08/2012 12:24:54 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: muawiyah

Really? I know a lot of cops who, if they tried to shoot the driver, would wind up shooting someone in the back seat, or even behind the car, or out on the street, or anywhere his weapon was pointed (note I didn’t say aimed).

Don’t attribute to malice what should be attributed to needing lots more range time.


108 posted on 12/08/2012 12:25:40 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: muawiyah

In the state of Texas, all sworn Peace Officers (city/county/state) have the responsibility to be a Peace Officer 24 hours a day. I know that personally since I was a Deputy in Texas before I quit and moved to Japan.


109 posted on 12/08/2012 12:26:43 PM PST by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Off balance cop being dragged off his feet - the bullet could have gone anywhere. Be glad it hit a peep and not a bystander.


110 posted on 12/08/2012 12:29:18 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Voltaire)
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To: muawiyah
if he’d really feared being run over he’d shot the driver through the front windshield of course!

How? Wasn't he knocked out of his shoes/dragged on the side of the car?

111 posted on 12/08/2012 12:29:21 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: TADSLOS; Bratch
Yeah, you don't want to be anywhere near a big box store or market when the lights go out, or the EBT cards flash ERROR.


112 posted on 12/08/2012 12:34:31 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Is there a father for the two she already bred?


113 posted on 12/08/2012 12:39:53 PM PST by Venturer
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To: American in Israel

“What part of taking down a licence plate vs use of deadly force did this BOZO not understand? This lady may be a shop lifter, but last I noticed it did not carry the death penalty.”

This is Houston, Texas, sir. You would have to know Texas law to understand. In Texas, if one is fleeing with ‘your’ goods, you have the right to stop them. The officer in this case was protecting ‘his’ goods as an employee of Wal-Mart.


114 posted on 12/08/2012 12:42:40 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: Ditter
I am in Houston and I saw this on our local news last night. They said the officer was being dragged by the car and feared he was going to go under it and be run over. They showed a photo of his shoes in the parking lot where he was pulled out of them.

Notice that's being left out. Boy, that officer better not be white or he is screwed even if they ran him over.

115 posted on 12/08/2012 12:43:07 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Great nations are born stoic and die epicurean. -Will Durant)
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To: steve86

“In fact, these posters are no better than and indistinguisable from an Islamic mob.”

May I ask what justifies your equating FReepers with Islamic mob members?


116 posted on 12/08/2012 12:44:31 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: Charles Martel

Are those earrings, is it an untied bow tie, is a shirt collar, or is it two neckties with the skinny ends pulled over her shoulders?


117 posted on 12/08/2012 12:46:26 PM PST by relictele
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To: riverrunner

If true, you are right. If not, you are wrong.


118 posted on 12/08/2012 12:46:57 PM PST by sakic
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To: muawiyah
But as I always say no bullet holes in the front windshield, nobody was trying to run you down!

Based on this article alone, I would agree. However, other sources indicate that she hooked the cop with the open driver's door while trying to back out of the space. An unusual set of circumstances, but just as potentially deadly as being hit with the front bumper. Unless the security cameras tell a different story, I think this one qualifies as a defensive shooting.

119 posted on 12/08/2012 12:47:26 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Venturer
Is there a father for the two

Father? Probably numerous deadbeat sperm donors.

120 posted on 12/08/2012 12:49:24 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Doc Savage

“Nice lips!” said the catfish living under the bridge just downstream from the dam.


121 posted on 12/08/2012 12:49:56 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: Alaska Wolf
That's strictly supposition ~ Walmart has cameras ~ they know. They haven't said yet have they?

As a rule of thumb I've learned to demand bullet holes in the front windshield as a necessary adjunct to 'he done tried to run me over' ~ that way we know the officer was IN FRONT OF THE VEHICLE ~ anything else is strictly supposition, and all too often just pettifoggery designed to trick the unwary. So, no bullet holes in the front, no run down! And that's doubly so when the dude guns down someone in the back seat ~ where whatever it was they were doing they sure weren't operating the motor vehicle.

We pay top dollar taxes around here to train these guys to shoot the right people ~ performance is expected. What they do in Texas is anybody's business of course but in Virginia they generally need to be sure of their target!

You do know that around here we don't need a permit to strapon a holster and walk around with our pearl handles showing ~ right?

122 posted on 12/08/2012 12:52:29 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: relictele
Are those earrings, is it an untied bow tie, is a shirt collar, or is it two neckties with the skinny ends pulled over her shoulders?

I dunno, but her poor fashion choices are what prompted me to post the picture. Alas, I'm sure that was somehow "racist" of me. Gee, how will I sleep at night?
/dripping sarcasm

123 posted on 12/08/2012 12:54:46 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Charles Martel

Yep. If the cop was caught between the door and the seat and was being pulled under, she wasn’t shot for shoplifting. She was shot for assault with a deadly weapon (car.)


124 posted on 12/08/2012 12:57:50 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Great nations are born stoic and die epicurean. -Will Durant)
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To: muawiyah

But as I always say no bullet holes in the front windshield, nobody was trying to run you down!

What if the shifter lever is in the “R” position and you are at the rear of the vehicle,just wonder’en?


125 posted on 12/08/2012 12:57:57 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: SauronOfMordor; Alas Babylon!
Everybody's gotta' be concerned with parking lot shootings ~ those bullets are going to stop somewhere ~ maybe an innocent passerby.

Such places are not target ranges.

I will be more careful next time I go to the Walmart ~ probably just drive right on by in fact ~ until they come clean on what happened in this parking lot.

I don't shop Costco anymore either ~ they have not adequately come across with the reason they sent in the cops to shoot up the guy packing the water bottles.

126 posted on 12/08/2012 12:58:16 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: smokingfrog

Campbell confronted the women in the doorway and ordered them to stop.

They tried to force their way past him.

One of the women, later identified as Frey, hit the deputy and ran.

Campbell followed them into the parking lot, where the shoplifting suspects climbed into a waiting car.

Campbell opened the car door and ordered Frey to get out. But she refused, officials said.

Andrews began to drive away while the deputy was standing between the open door and the driver’s seat.

“She threw it in reverse and tried to run over the deputy,” said Thomas Gilliland, a Harris County sheriff’s spokesman.

Campbell later told investigators he feared for his safety and opened fire.

The car sped away.

http://www.chron.com/default/article/Deputy-shoots-and-kills-suspected-shoplifter-4099921.php


127 posted on 12/08/2012 1:00:48 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: muawiyah

From what details we have, it looks like the car was in a parking space, the cop opens a car door, driver puts car into reverse, car backs up with open door hooking the cop, threatening to send him under the open door and under a wheel.


128 posted on 12/08/2012 1:02:02 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Voltaire)
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To: muawiyah

The dead woman was one of the New Orleans folks that Houston took in after hurricane Katrina. (I thought they had already shot each other or been put in the slammer by now.) Does your state have any of those?


129 posted on 12/08/2012 1:02:52 PM PST by Ditter
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To: muawiyah
That's strictly supposition

No you posted supposition.

http://www.kfdm.com/shared/news/top-stories/stories/kfdm_vid_2980.shtml

You do know that around here we don't need a permit to strapon a holster and walk around with our pearl handles showing ~ right?

Do you find that offensive?

130 posted on 12/08/2012 1:04:07 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: SauronOfMordor
We still need Walmart's videos ~ they spend an incredible amount of money making sure they can identify any perp ~ and this was one they already knew!

Are we to think that camera system is fake and they've turned, instead, to armed offduty cops to shoot selected customers?

Without the videos i won't believe anything the sheriff's office says.

Let me put it this way, having been on a jury, if those videos are good enough for the jury, then by gum, let's see 'em! Anybody can tell a story ~ digital is forever!

131 posted on 12/08/2012 1:09:02 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: t1b8zs
Then somebody might have been trying to back up over him eh!

'twarnt' no run down but a backover!

We need the videos anyway. They're real. Eyewitness accounts are meaningless in these cases.

BTW, did he shoot the target he was after or just somebody else? ~ makes a difference on whether or not that ol'gal gets hit with a reckless driving charge or murder ~ same with the officer ~ depending on the videos.

I was waiting on the sheriff to say 'as is clearly shown in the videos' but musta' missed that.

132 posted on 12/08/2012 1:12:39 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: null and void; American in Israel
The question you forgot to ask is..."when did the cop draw his weapon?"

And, why assume that a thief, who might be looking to get-away quick, would park head-in? I'm no thief and I always look for a spot that doesn't require backing out.

133 posted on 12/08/2012 1:13:01 PM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Alaska Wolf

No, I find it comforting. The cops start making shooting noises they might draw help ~ which has happened several times already. Texas is far more restrictive about how you handle your guns, but less restrictive about who you shoot!


134 posted on 12/08/2012 1:14:31 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Ditter

Too cold around here ~ we had a couple of 4 foot deep snowfalls after that so they left town.


135 posted on 12/08/2012 1:15:28 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Charles Martel

Haven't seen that kind of make-up since Al Jolson.


136 posted on 12/08/2012 1:16:13 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Government can’t redistribute talent, willpower, or intelligence, except through dictatorship.)
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To: wtc911
Apparently none of them were any too smart so maybe they parked head into the handicapped spot!

They'd need to back out because there's that infernal concrete or steel pole in the middle ~

137 posted on 12/08/2012 1:18:12 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: carriage_hill
Looks like she gets/got her make-up applied at a Maaco® Paint/Body Shop.

It's probably her shoplifting disguise. If she washed that face, you wouldn't recognize her.

138 posted on 12/08/2012 1:18:48 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Government can’t redistribute talent, willpower, or intelligence, except through dictatorship.)
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To: Albion Wilde

She could wipe it off from around her eyes and from her lips onto that collar and no one would recognize her. Could do that in seconds. At the same time isn’t she dead? looks pretty lively in that photo, so someone might find out the source ~ is that a Walmart stock photo? Do they keep the pictures up on a big targeting site or something?


139 posted on 12/08/2012 1:22:39 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Charles Martel

Oh, my God. Every racial caricature in the world rolled into one actual individual.


140 posted on 12/08/2012 1:26:06 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: muawiyah
No, I find it comforting

You do know that around here a permit isn't required for open or concealed carry.

The uniformed cop did what was perfectly understandable. According to the circumstances as I understand them, I would probably have reacted similarly.

141 posted on 12/08/2012 1:27:02 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: eartrumpet
We was beat up by a Bible salesman and banished from Woolworths.

Anybody remember when Woolworth used to have lunch counters and you could pick a balloon and pop it to get the price of the ice cream sundae you bought ?

One in ten balloons had a FREE slip in it...

142 posted on 12/08/2012 1:28:03 PM PST by Popman
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To: sakic
It's called "gallows humor."

It isn't pretty, but then, it doesn't try to be.

8^)

143 posted on 12/08/2012 1:29:18 PM PST by Gargantua ("Barbie O'Bunga ~ America's First Fly-Strewn, Maggot-Gagging Fag President")
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To: Albion Wilde

PLS don’t tell me that’s (was) really a man under all that Bondo and paint... must have had quite a collection of putty trowels at home. Heh.


145 posted on 12/08/2012 1:30:42 PM PST by carriage_hill (Don't whiz on the electric fence. Awwwww-yeah!)
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To: ozzymandus
Stay in Israel. Apparently they love shoplifters who try to run down policemen there.

I've read that in Israel, they are more concerned with people carrying packages on the way in, than on the way out.

146 posted on 12/08/2012 1:35:05 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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To: muawiyah
You do know that around here we don't need a permit to strapon a holster and walk around with our pearl handles showing ~ right?

Pearl? Only a pimp from a cheap Virginia whorehouse would carry a pearl-handled pistol.

< big Texas grin >

147 posted on 12/08/2012 1:35:21 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Charles Martel

Sir, you do have a way with words. :)


148 posted on 12/08/2012 1:36:43 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: steve86

Get over yourself. Nobody should take sarcasm seriously. You sound like the MSM, injecting racism into the comments.

I will say this, though: you need to check the crime stats. As for my personal experience, every time I have been mugged, it has been by a member of her group. How about you?


149 posted on 12/08/2012 1:39:14 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Government can’t redistribute talent, willpower, or intelligence, except through dictatorship.)
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To: muawiyah

In the first year or so after Katrina, it seemed like every shooting was either by a NO person or between 2 NO people. I haven’t heard about any of them lately I really thought they were all dead or had gone back home.

I just read in the Houston Chronicle about this incident. The officer opened the drivers side door and the driver put the car in reverse and started backing up. The driver was not shot, the dead woman was a passenger, I am guessing in the front passenger seat. There had already been an altercation at the front door where the officer tried to stop the 3 women and the woman who was shot hit the officer. That is when he followed them out into the parking lot and he grabbed the drivers side door.


150 posted on 12/08/2012 1:39:56 PM PST by Ditter
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