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State Department Will Designate 9% of Syrian Rebels as a Terrorist Group
Frontpagemag.com ^ | 08DEC12 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 12/08/2012 11:15:06 AM PST by bayouranger

The problem is that it’s also the 9 percent that has the best equipment and the best fighters. But this should be interesting.

The U.S. State Department is planning to designate the al-Nusra Front, a radical Islamist group in Syria, as a Foreign Terrorist Organization, according to two U.S. officials who spoke to CNN on background.

The goal of the designation is to isolate extremists groups in Syria while giving a boost to the new political opposition group unveiled at a summit in Doha, Qatar, last month.

The latest U.S. data estimates al-Nusra makes up roughly 9% of the rebel forces battling the regime.

Al-Nusra is basically the local version of Al Qaeda and is largely made up of foreign Sunni fighters battling to overthrow the Neo-Shiite Syrian government and replace it with an Islamic state.

The “new opposition” is led by a Muslim Brotherhood member and backed by Qatar, which funneled weapons to Jihadists leading to the creation of the new opposition. So you can see where this is going.

U.S. officials say the designation of al-Nusra is an effort to highlight the good opposition and express concern about the bad guys.

“We want to put the opposition on notice that these guys are becoming more of an issue and they need to do something about them,” one official said.

Right. Good luck with that. The Free Syrian Army relies heavily on Al-Nusra and a lot of FSA victories have really been Al-Nusra victories.

And Al-Nusra has the money and the firepower.

Their ferocity and fighting skills have made the jihadist “Al-Nusra Front the dominant force in Aleppo now,” eclipsing the Muslim Brotherhood-affiliated Liwa al-Tawhid, once the strongest brigade in the city

“The rebels do it for ransom to pay their fighters and buy weapons, but Al-Nusra never needs to negotiate — they kill their hostages.”

“Most FSA fighters are young. Some are even teenagers and carry unsophisticated weapons,” said civil servant Abdullah, 32, who lives in the army-held Old City.

“But Al-Nusra fighters are older and have modern weapons and bullet-proof vests.”

So that’s the question. Syria is coming down to a race between the Iranian allied Syrian government, the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda.

Which of these do we want? How about none. There is no possible outcome that we have any reason to want in Syria, except an indefinite war between all sides.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: collaborators; filthykoranimals; infiltration; iran; israel; qatar; syria; traitors; waronterror

http://www.therightscoop.com/walid-phares-everybody-knows-obama-supports-the-muslim-brotherhood/

1 posted on 12/08/2012 11:15:11 AM PST by bayouranger
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To: bayouranger
And here is another fine mess the Oligarchy has gotten us into.

Syria warns 'terror groups' may use chemical arms

Syria warned the United Nations on Saturday that rebels may use chemical weapons after they gained control of a factory producing toxic chlorine east of Aleppo city.

"Terrorist groups may resort to using chemical weapons against the Syrian people... after having gained control of a toxic chlorine factory," the foreign ministry said, adding that Syria would never use chemical weapons.

The statement may be referring to the Syrian-Saudi Chemicals Company (SYSACCO) factory near the town of Safira, which was taken over earlier this week by rebel fighters from the jihadist Al-Nusra Front.


2 posted on 12/08/2012 11:50:13 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
From Wikipedia

Use as a weapon
World War I
Main article: Poison gas in World War I

Chlorine gas, also known as bertholite, was first used as a weapon in World War I by Germany on April 22, 1915 in the Second Battle of Ypres.[61] As described by the soldiers it had a distinctive smell of a mixture between pepper and pineapple. It also tasted metallic and stung the back of the throat and chest. Chlorine can react with water in the mucosa of the lungs to form hydrochloric acid, an irritant that can be lethal. The damage done by chlorine gas can be prevented by a gas mask, or other filtration method, which makes the overall chance of death by chlorine gas much lower than those of other chemical weapons. It was pioneered by a German scientist later to be a Nobel laureate, Fritz Haber of the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Berlin, in collaboration with the German chemical conglomerate IG Farben, who developed methods for discharging chlorine gas against an entrenched enemy. It is alleged that Haber's role in the use of chlorine as a deadly weapon drove his wife, Clara Immerwahr, to suicide.[62] After its first use, chlorine was utilized by both sides as a chemical weapon, but it was soon replaced by the more deadly phosgene and mustard gas.[63]

Iraq War
Main article: 2007 chlorine bombings in Iraq

Chlorine gas has also been used by insurgents against the local population and coalition forces in the Iraq War in the form of chlorine bombs. On March 17, 2007, for example, three chlorine-filled trucks were detonated in the Anbar province killing two and sickening over 350.[64] Other chlorine bomb attacks resulted in higher death tolls, with more than 30 deaths on two separate occasions.[65] Most of the deaths were caused by the force of the explosions rather than the effects of chlorine, since the toxic gas is readily dispersed and diluted in the atmosphere by the blast. The Iraqi authorities have tightened security for elemental chlorine, which is essential for providing safe drinking water for the population.

3 posted on 12/08/2012 12:06:37 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
According to Debka, this has gotten incredibly worse. That Chlorine Factory is the Syrian army’s biggest chemical weapons store and base, which also houses Syrian Scud D missiles armed with chemical warheads adjusted to fire at Israel. It is now under control by an Islamic Organization that some in the US are trying to classify as an Islamic Terrorist organization.

Assad’s last warning to rebels before using chemical weapons. West, Israel on high preparedness

4 posted on 12/08/2012 12:30:47 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

I would think a flyby incineration would be just what the doctor prescribed.


5 posted on 12/08/2012 2:16:40 PM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: bayouranger

the 9%? Are they the commanders aligned with the white hut?


6 posted on 12/08/2012 2:17:59 PM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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They would have to evacuate a nearby city that is now under rebel control. The backup plan appears to be a broad multi-layer missle defense and letting Assad target the base/factory with Sarin. Of course then the US/NATO/UN will scream bloody murder for awhile about how evil Assad was. Yep. That is our leadership for you. Forcing someone else take the blame for their failures.
7 posted on 12/08/2012 2:34:55 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: bayouranger
Our current foreign policy vis a vis the ME is going to get a lot of us killed. And, I'm not talking about casualties in theater.

5.56mm

8 posted on 12/08/2012 2:44:40 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: justa-hairyape; All
Game changer : Russian Iskander (SS-26) Mobile Ballistic Missile Delivered to Assad’s Syria Reza Khalili reported in World Net Daily on Russian deliveries of the Iskander (SS-26 Stone) Mobile Ballistic Missile to Syria, “Russia arms Syria with powerful ballistic missile,”. The Iskander was developed to foil anti-missile defense systems, whether those deployed in Eastern or Central Europe or the Patriot batteries that NATO has just released to Turkey. The US deployed the first Patriot Batteries to Poland in 2010. Syria has criticized Turkey for this deployment. Kahlili notes the threat that Iskander presents to Israel’s missile defense umbrella in the wake of the recent rocket war in Gaza and successful tests of the David Sling intermediate range rocket and missile defense system. Israel had purchased and deployed Patriot batteries following the Scud attacks from Iraq during the First Gulf War in 1991. Kahlili notes: The [solid fuel] superior Iskander can travel at hypersonic speed of over 1.3 miles per second (Mach 6-7) and has a range of over 280 miles with pinpoint accuracy of destroying targets with its 1,500-pound warhead, a nightmare for any missile defense system. According to Mashregh, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard media outlet, Russia had warned Turkey not to escalate the situation, but with Turkey’s request for Patriot missiles, it delivered its first shipment of Iskanders to Syria. Reporting today, Mashregh said the handover occurred when Russian naval logistic vessels docked at Tartus in Syria. The Iskandar is a surface-to-surface missile that no missile defense system can trace or destroy, Mashregh said. Russia had earlier threatened that should America put its missile defense system in Poland, it would retaliate by placing its Iskander missiles at Kaliningrad, its Baltic Sea port. Russia’s delivery of Iskanders to Bashar Assad’s embattled regime clearly shows that the security and stability of Syria remains Russia’s red line, Mashregh said. It is unknown how many of these missiles have been delivered but the numbers given are sufficient to destroy any Patriot missiles in Turkey, it said. The delivery of the missile not only threatens the security of Turkey but also Israel, which would have to recalculate its strategy with its defensive and offensive capabilities. As reported in a WND exclusive on Dec. 5, Iran’s Islamic regime also sees the toppling of the Assad regime as its red line and has 170 ballistic missiles targeting Tel Aviv in underground missiles Military Today reported that Russia had invested $1.2 billion in development and deployment to counter US missile shields in Eastern and Central Europe. Moreover, it has sold 26 Iskander missile systems to Syria. Military Today notes the dangerous versatility of the Iskander (SS-26 Stone); The Iskander road mobile missile system is equipped with two short-range ballistic missiles, which substantially increases firepower of missile units. Each missile can be independently targeted. System is capable of hitting moving targets, as target coordination can be adjusted while missile is in-flight. The Iskander has several different conventional warheads, including cluster, fuel-air explosive, bunker-busting and electro-magnetic pulse. Minimum firing range is 50 km. The Iskander was designed to overcome air defense systems. Missile files at supersonic speed, excessively maneuvers in the terminal phase of the flight and releases decoys. In some cases this ballistic missile can be used as an alternative to precision bombing. Missiles can be launched 16 minutes from traveling or 4 minutes from highest readiness. The second minute can be launched after less than a minute. Given the deteriorating situation in Syria, if the Iskander (SS-26 Missiles) were to fall into al Qaeda, al-Husra or Jundallah Islamist militia hands in the fundamentalist opposition that would constitute a serious threat to Israel’s yet to be completed missile defense umbrella. The David’s Sling intermediate range defense system will be deployed in 2013 and 2014. ~~ Some many targets, so little time.
9 posted on 12/08/2012 6:51:28 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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Thanks bayouranger.
it’s also the 9 percent that has the best equipment and the best fighters... the al-Nusra Front... the local version of Al Qaeda... largely made up of foreign Sunni fighters... The "new opposition" is led by a Muslim Brotherhood member and backed by Qatar...
I like the author's excerpted last line, that the only desirable outcome is an endless civil war with no victors.


10 posted on 12/08/2012 7:08:20 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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More news from the World War III Front. This Russian article seems to indicate that Syria has taken the Chlorine Gas Factory back from the Rebels ?

Syrian troops pursuing terrorists

Have no Fear, the Prince is here.

PRINCE HARRY COULD BE SENT TO SYRIA

Wonder who his King really is ?

And yes, the Obama/Hillary/Huma foreign policy has been to get WMD into the hands of Islamic Rebels who are 9 % terrorists.

Obama Training Syrian Rebels to Secure Syrian WMDs

11 posted on 12/08/2012 7:19:22 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: bayouranger
These Russian Warships In Syria Are A Prime Example How The Kremlin's Covering Every Angle With Assad

And if the story below was true, that is what got the Russians so mad in Georgia. The Georgians counter attacked the Russian column and killed the main general.

CONFIRMED: A Top Russian General Was Killed By Syrian Rebels While Advising Assad

12 posted on 12/08/2012 7:32:28 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: bayouranger
You wont believe the latest story. Apparently there is a you tube video showing victims of chemical WMD attacks from Syria. The attacks occurred up near Aleppo, near where the chemical plant was located. And now we have a report that Syrians used chemicals up in the area, while at the same time the MSM ignored the story of Rebels at least temporarily gaining control of the chemical gas factory.

Syrian rebels claim new video shows victims of chemical attack

13 posted on 12/08/2012 9:42:10 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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Sure could not see this coming. What a shock.

Video Claims Proof Assad Unleashed Chemical Weapons

Fears confirmed in Syria: A video released by rebels that shows victims of chemical warfare. Will Obama carry out his threat?

14 posted on 12/08/2012 11:01:42 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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