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Democrats want jobless benefits in “cliff” deal
Associated Press ^ | Dec. 8, 2012 10:36 AM EST | Sam Hananel

Posted on 12/08/2012 11:15:44 AM PST by Olog-hai

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But relaxing draconian regulations and reducing the highest corporate tax rate on the entire planet in order to attract more jobs to US shores just cannot ever be in the deal, can it? Keep them out of work and miserable? That isn’t a fiscal cliff, then: it’s a fiscal abyss.
1 posted on 12/08/2012 11:15:54 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

what DON”T they want and what WON’T the gop give them?


2 posted on 12/08/2012 11:21:08 AM PST by The_Freemason (11/6/12....... I went to sleep in America and woke up in Venezuela)
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To: Olog-hai

How about we put FULL approval of the XL Keystone pipeline in the mix? That’s a few thousand jobs!


3 posted on 12/08/2012 11:26:06 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Olog-hai

But I read every day how great it is that tens of millions illegals from other countries have jobs here.

We’re sunk.


4 posted on 12/08/2012 11:28:21 AM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: Olog-hai
Well this is interesting.
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish and he will sit in the boat and drink beer all day.
A few will blame ZERO. Most will blame weepy.
I have been feeling down until yesterday.
We overcame Pearl Harbor. We can certainly overcome the Lunatic. . . . . . . . .
5 posted on 12/08/2012 11:28:33 AM PST by DeaconRed (The Lunatic is on the grass, and in the White House. . . . (Brain Damage- Dark Side of the Moon))
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To: The_Freemason

They DON’T want to directly or indirectly stimulate the private sector because the mission of Socialists is to make EVERY job a government job. Employed or unemployed, 100% government paychecks is the goal. This keeps the EMPLOYER/CHECK ISSUER (the Socialists) IN POWER!


6 posted on 12/08/2012 11:29:58 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Yeah... bring Keystone back. And every group of so many added to or kept on the dole has to have so many domestic oil wells okayed. Tie welfare budget to productivity measures that are not just stupid stimuluses.


7 posted on 12/08/2012 11:30:00 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Olog-hai

“99 weeks of UC (Unemployment Compensation) is the equivalent to an Associate Degree from any College in America.” - Rush


8 posted on 12/08/2012 11:30:49 AM PST by carriage_hill (Don't whiz on the electric fence. Awwwww-yeah!)
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To: DeaconRed

can America overcome the Boehnless chicken?


9 posted on 12/08/2012 11:31:09 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

I would assume you read the other day that it was revealed that some 70% of all the new jobs supposedly “created” are government jobs.


10 posted on 12/08/2012 11:35:18 AM PST by livius
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To: Olog-hai

Who can “live” on unemployment insurance benefits? The payments are paltry in most states. I weorked as a veteran’s representative at a state unemployment office for 12 years.


11 posted on 12/08/2012 11:35:47 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: livius

I saw it but not everybody might.


12 posted on 12/08/2012 11:37:35 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Olog-hai
Democrats want (insert demand here).
13 posted on 12/08/2012 11:38:11 AM PST by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s a conglomeration of benefits that usually kick in for a dole case. Some states are fairly generous with UI, but there’s stuff like food stamps, Section 8, cash bennies. To be so much of a bum that you couldn’t even be a bum on the dole would be hard.


14 posted on 12/08/2012 11:39:30 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: JPG

I demand they be kicked from power.


15 posted on 12/08/2012 11:40:05 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Problem is, it makes you so weak that you can actually get invaded and conquered. The USSR was heading down that path, but then saw that the number of libs in the USA’s government was on the rise again, and so took advantage by declaring their empire “dissolved” (officially) only to have Putin come back at a later date to put it back together (officially).


16 posted on 12/08/2012 11:41:56 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

This is a classic, if gov bails out one, they are forced to bail out all. This is a lesson learned if we ever survive the recession. Working Americans do ask a good question if jobless bailouts are not approved, “Why does the gov react instantly to bailout banks to the tune of 700 billion, but hesitate when working man ask for a bailout to the tune of 60 billion? Working man is starting to figure it out, gov is for the rich and it spits on the rest”.
This recession is unlike any we faced post WW2, because the past behavior of gov is fueling class warfare. So does the behavior of the CEO’s. Dems do not need to egg the people, they merely are leveraging a bad situation to their political advantage. Old adage, when the middle class is sliding into poverty and become part of the poor, the Dems will gain politically. Look at the last Great Depression where FDR was able to be POTUS four terms despite bad economy. He was even very popular after his death into the 1970’s by the aging Great Depression generation. The GOP needs to understand this dynamics before screaming that everyone learn to be on their own, but have their reps in Congress react to the desires and whims of the corporations and Wall Street. The Tea Party wing gets it, but the establishment GOP does not. The other great GOP of the past also got it, he was Teddy Roosevelt.


17 posted on 12/08/2012 11:42:11 AM PST by Fee
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I have received UI several times but have never gotten food stamps, or anything else, even after surviving Hurricane Katrina in Biloxi. The food stamp office as much as came out and told me that middle-aged white males ain’t gonna get no help.


18 posted on 12/08/2012 11:44:31 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Olog-hai

The house should pass two bills ASAP. One make permanent the Bush tax cuts up to 250 thousand and the second make permanent the Bush tax cuts over 250. That would eliminate the add ons that the dems are going to insist on and it would take away a major talking point of Obama’s .


19 posted on 12/08/2012 11:46:05 AM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Superciliousness is the essence of Obama)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe state policies differ. In Ill Noise, getting food stamps is about as easy as showing you have a skimpy income, and the max UI level qualifies.


20 posted on 12/08/2012 11:46:30 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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