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What Is Paul Ryan's Role During the Fiscal Cliff Negotiations?
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/paul-ryans-role-fiscal-cliff-negotiations/story?id=17908223#.UMNqKoX2F1o ^

Posted on 12/08/2012 2:19:54 PM PST by Windy City Conservative

The day after the election, House Speaker John Boehner, the man now at the center of the negotiations with President Obama, called Ryan, according to a Boehner aide, because the speaker wanted "to make sure he was in the fold from Day One," adding he's been a "close part of the thought process."

And an aide to Ryan, who asked that his name not be used, says the role of the Wisconsin congressman is as a "resource to the speaker, a resource to House Republicans."

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
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I know a lot of conservatives like Paul Ryan for some reason, but he has always voted for big spending like TARP, and all of the bad deals Boehner negotiated with Obama the past 2 years. It should be clear to all, that Ryan has decided to play the inside game, but I don't think the outcome he may have in mind will ever come to pass as he lets Boehner and the powers that be, use him as a "resource".
1 posted on 12/08/2012 2:20:14 PM PST by Windy City Conservative
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To: Windy City Conservative

Anyone who supports John Boehner will never have my support again.


2 posted on 12/08/2012 2:24:57 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

I don’t know what to think except I don’t trust any of them.


3 posted on 12/08/2012 2:25:38 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Windy City Conservative

DeMint 2016. That’s all I can say with Rand Paul as his running mate.


4 posted on 12/08/2012 2:29:19 PM PST by dowcaet
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To: Venturer
I don’t know what to think except I don’t trust any of them.

Ditto to what you said. I feel right now as though it's US (American taxpayers) against them (politicians). All of them.

5 posted on 12/08/2012 2:30:17 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't tax me bro! Tax that guy over there!)
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To: Windy City Conservative

He’s the budget committee chairman. Pretty sure chairs have to tow the line of their leadership. I suppose he could resign from his position in protest, but I would rather have him in the process than out of it. He pretty much sat out of last years negotiations...most likely at Boehner’s direction, and that was a debacle.

Seeing FR people throw everyone from Ryan to Rubio under the bus in recent weeks is depressing. The fact is these guys are doing more to move the ball in the right direction than almost anyone else out there. No one in office is going to do 100% what we want. There are battles to fight and battles to avoid. I would love to see Ryan or something challenge boehner for the post, but I don’t see anyone in the House even whispering about it.


6 posted on 12/08/2012 2:32:09 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Agreed.


7 posted on 12/08/2012 2:37:01 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: ilgipper

Rubio is massively pro-amnesty, which would/will be the end of the GOP and conservatism in the US.


8 posted on 12/08/2012 2:43:28 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: ilgipper

“Seeing FR people throw everyone from Ryan to Rubio under the bus in recent weeks is depressing.”

You should be depressed because of why we are throwing Ryan and Rubio under the bus. It’s because they were touted as Tea Party guys and they are turning into establishment guys.

As far as our expectations of getting 100% of what we conservatives want, give me a break. Conservatives haven’t been getting anything we want, we’ve been getting big government and a crippling of personal freedoms for many years. The government is confiscating more and more of what we have. The GOP is really giving 0% of what conservatives want, which is simply “freedom” that this country was founded for. We just want a road block in front of the Obama agenda, but all we’re getting is a gate that goes up and down.

Stop lecturing conservatives like we’re expecting too much. If expecting the Constitution to be followed is too much, than this nation is on its way to disintegration.


9 posted on 12/08/2012 2:45:06 PM PST by Windy City Conservative
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To: Windy City Conservative
What Is Paul Ryan's Role During the Fiscal Cliff Negotiations?

To the low information voters reading this, Ryan has already put a plan before Congress. The senate rejected it, as did 0bama.

Answer to the above question: Easy, just say no.

5.56mm

10 posted on 12/08/2012 2:50:04 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: ilgipper

You would have to wonder, if FR was around during the 1980’s, how many would have thrown Reagan under the bus for bailing out the S&L’s.


11 posted on 12/08/2012 2:52:03 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: ilgipper

I agree with you. Both Ryan and Rubio are quite conservative, even though there are certainly going to be areas with which one person or another may agree. I can’t think of any politician I agree with all the way.

I think one reason they have survived so far without drawing much overt GOP criticism is that they are both very intelligent and mature, and I suspect the GOP-e is a little intimidated by them.

I’d love to see Ryan as Speaker, and while I’ve seen no mention of it, he has the presence and probably a lot of support even among people in the House who are not as conservative as he is. While some House members may have been cheering Boehner’s expulsion from various committees of some of Tea Party junior members, I can’t imagine that House members as a whole are very thrilled to see the House being humiliated and kicked aside by Obama while Boehner stands by apologizing for having irritated His Regal Highness.


12 posted on 12/08/2012 2:58:36 PM PST by livius
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To: 1rudeboy
You would have to wonder, if FR was around during the 1980’s, how many would have thrown Reagan under the bus for bailing out the S&L’s.

Probably all too many -- especially since it was Bush I who bailed them out and not Reagan.

13 posted on 12/08/2012 3:35:44 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Sneaky Judas come to
Mind .


14 posted on 12/08/2012 3:47:46 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: BfloGuy
Thanks, I didn't realize. Reagan injected funds into the FSLIC, but the big bailout came later. Making the comparison between TARP1, TARP2, etc., even more apt.
15 posted on 12/08/2012 3:51:53 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Windy City Conservative
I, was in the minority because I never trusted him during this past election. (Sorry) Ryan does whatever he is told to do by the party boss. It was very irritating to read the posts of women here saying they wanted to have Paul's baby. Sometimes, I don't know which is worse; men or women. Though, knowing a weak man is very uninspiring. Many women politicians up there on the democratic side are not like most normal women that I know. I, am almost at the point of saying it's us against the politicians/nothing in between. There's no difference to each side any longer because the republicans will not defend our nation as it was built. Ryan and Rubio are not the answer. Mitt Romney was not. We need a fighter to not only take on our platform but the cut through the lies in the media (it can be done) The conservatives have to take back the party or begin a new stronger party.
16 posted on 12/08/2012 3:58:50 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: Windy City Conservative
Ryan's role should be to just shut up.

This is all live theatre.

The player who has nothing to say has the most to gain by the spectacle.

17 posted on 12/08/2012 4:04:47 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: 1rudeboy
Thanks, I didn't realize.

Yeah, it's OK. You're probably just a whippersnapper.

The SHTF while Bush was President and, actually, I would have and did criticize him. Banks that go bankrupt should fail. The S&L bailout continued a horrible precedent set by FDR that banks must be protected from failure at any cost.

Banks are no longer private businesses -- they are protectorates of the government and it's our money -- money we didn't deposit in them of our own free will -- that props them up no matter how foolish they are.

I have friends who still believe that the oil companies run the country. They don't. The banks do. We saw it again in 2008 with TARP.

18 posted on 12/08/2012 4:07:58 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: dowcaet
Demint? The guy that quit? There ought to be a bunch of Palin bashers weighing in about now.
19 posted on 12/08/2012 6:36:01 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: 1rudeboy

Bravo...Reagan would be called a RINO


20 posted on 12/09/2012 7:42:02 AM PST by southphilly (Every State should be a RIGHT to WORK State!)
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