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Michigan right to work: Judge rules on lockdown of Capitol building
Mlive.com ^ | December 08, 2012 | Melissa Anders

Posted on 12/08/2012 4:29:49 PM PST by cripplecreek

LANSING, MI — A judge found that state police were doing their job on Thursday when they locked down the Michigan Capitol building during a protest of right-to-work bills.


But state police and Capitol building officials need to devise guidelines for dealing with these types of situations in the future, said Ingham County Circuit Judge William Collette.


Collette on Friday dissolved the temporary restraining order that was issued on Thursday by Judge Joyce Draganchuk ordering the state police to reopen the Capitol building.


“But anyway, please just keep the building open if at all possible because the Constitution requires it,” Collette said, according to a court transcript. “And I’ve known a lot of union people in my life and they are good people. They don’t cause a lot of trouble. Well, make a lot of noise, but they don’t cause a lot of trouble, all right?”


At least two lawsuits have been filed contending the state violated the Open Meetings Act and citizens’ right of free speech.

(Excerpt) Read more at mlive.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: michigan; rtw; unions
Monday and Tuesday are going to be a real treat with the Emperor coming to Michigan on Monday.
1 posted on 12/08/2012 4:29:54 PM PST by cripplecreek
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
We won this round but we need to keep the pressure on so no one gets weak knees. See the RTW activism thread for contact info.

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Weekly/biweekly Michigan legislative activism thread

Michigan Action Alert on Right To Work
2 posted on 12/08/2012 4:32:00 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

It sounds as though the knuckledragging, union Neanderthals are lugging a load in their Huggies. If the unions go down, they may have to find REAL jobs and have to work for a living! LOL! Good luck losers!


3 posted on 12/08/2012 4:36:02 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I feel sad for my once great country. We deserve everything that is about to happen to us.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

You should hear the squealing coming from my liberal cousins.

They’re screaming about being chained to work stations and getting paid a nickle per day while being whipped by a corporate overseer in a 3 piece suit.


4 posted on 12/08/2012 4:39:35 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Heh heh heh. I guess they don’t expect much help from Barry’s OSHA. I always figured that outfit was another waste of taxpayer dollars.


5 posted on 12/08/2012 4:42:13 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I feel sad for my once great country. We deserve everything that is about to happen to us.)
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To: cripplecreek
If they want to control the situation, I'd suggest opening fire. They are Democrats, and are life without purpose.

They are barely bright enough to get the message, so the Staties would only have to shoot a few. Besides, it's not like the Dems will shoot back, and the cops prefer "defending themselves" against unarmed civilians.

6 posted on 12/08/2012 4:48:36 PM PST by jonascord (Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears thingle Star!)
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To: cripplecreek
If they want to control the situation, I'd suggest opening fire. They are Democrats, and are life without purpose.

They are barely bright enough to get the message, so the Staties would only have to shoot a few. Besides, it's not like the Dems will shoot back, and the cops prefer "defending themselves" against unarmed civilians.

7 posted on 12/08/2012 4:48:58 PM PST by jonascord (Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears thingle Star!)
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To: cripplecreek
If they want to control the situation, I'd suggest opening fire. They are Democrats, and are life without purpose.

They are barely bright enough to get the message, so the Staties would only have to shoot a few. Besides, it's not like the Dems will shoot back, and the cops prefer "defending themselves" against unarmed civilians.

8 posted on 12/08/2012 4:49:25 PM PST by jonascord (Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears thingle Star!)
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To: cripplecreek
“But anyway, please just keep the building open if at all possible because the Constitution requires it,”

The constitution requires that a state capitol building be open to the public?!? Really? I would like to see that provision of the constitution (I assume it's the state constitution, because I'm pretty sure the US Constitution says nothing about public buildings...)

9 posted on 12/08/2012 4:56:17 PM PST by apillar
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To: jonascord

“the cops prefer “defending themselves” against unarmed civilians. “

Because they are union goons too! Don’t look for the cops to “control” the out of control private sector unions. They are “brothers” under the skin.


10 posted on 12/08/2012 5:01:21 PM PST by vette6387
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To: jonascord

“the cops prefer “defending themselves” against unarmed civilians. “

Because they are union goons too! Don’t look for the cops to “control” the out of control private sector unions. They are “brothers” under the skin.


11 posted on 12/08/2012 5:01:41 PM PST by vette6387
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To: apillar

They can be there and quietly watch as Michigan workers are unchained from union slavery. I got no problem with that but its pretty obvious that the union only wants to disrupt.

I read somewhere that it cost almost $7.5 million to repair and clean the capitol building in Wisconsin.


12 posted on 12/08/2012 5:02:29 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: jonascord

“and the cops prefer “defending themselves” against unarmed civilians”

What’s next—calling them pigs? Reminds me of the 60s.

Jerk !

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13 posted on 12/08/2012 5:06:01 PM PST by Mears
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To: vette6387

You are aware that police had no problem arresting and pepper spraying the clowns within the first hour or so of the tantrum.

In this case the police and firemen are excluded from the right to work law because they have a different set up. I’m not thrilled with it but they aren’t breaking the state the way teachers, municipal, and factory workers are.


14 posted on 12/08/2012 5:06:58 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Mears

Can you imagine the crap these guys are taking. Union members supporting right to work.

http://myemail.constantcontact.com/History-in-the-making——.html?soid=1105909531983&aid=JrHxp_elSlA

Mike Shirkey was my sight unseen GOP vote in 2010. I voted for him because he’s a republican and he’s turning out to be one of the best.


15 posted on 12/08/2012 5:26:07 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

“In this case the police and firemen are excluded from the right to work law because they have a different set up. I’m not thrilled with it but they aren’t breaking the state the way teachers, municipal, and factory workers are.”

Well, then things are very different in Michigan than they are here in California. The municipal bankruptcies here, are as a DIRECT RESULT of the profligate spending by those entities on Çops and Firemen. Pick any city in the state and you will find that between 75 and 80% of their costs are DIRECTLY ATTRIBUTABLE to what the cops and the firefighters are being paid. Here in CA it’s doubly bad because these cretins can (and most do) retire at 50 with full retirement and medical benefits for life for them and their spouses. We have had two fire chiefs retire ( from the same district ) in the past three years. In each case, their retirement is something on the order of $100k per year more than they were being paid while working. Just do the math! This is unsustainable.


16 posted on 12/08/2012 5:30:13 PM PST by vette6387
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To: cripplecreek

Bear Spray, Clubs, and lastly bullets should do.


17 posted on 12/08/2012 6:05:58 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
They were claiming that police used tear gas on them but I'm guessing it was just pepper spray.

They sure didn't react the way they did in Wisconsin. They called in two extra platoons of 26 state troopers and physically removed the clowns.

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18 posted on 12/08/2012 6:09:53 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Those darn union Amish!


19 posted on 12/08/2012 6:19:13 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (The law of unintended consequences is an unforgiving and vindictive b!tch!)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Shame upon thee.


20 posted on 12/08/2012 6:25:40 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Very interesting. Thanks ‘creek (and thanks for all of your work/pings on the state issues...OUTSTANDING!).


21 posted on 12/08/2012 6:56:39 PM PST by PGalt
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To: cripplecreek

They didn’t expect to be met with force and that they wouldn’t be allowed to just get their way.


22 posted on 12/08/2012 7:12:11 PM PST by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

OSHA, thank you Richard Nixon. Same President who proposed the Earned Income Tax Credit, whereby millions receive an income tax refund, without ever paying in.


23 posted on 12/08/2012 7:13:55 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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To: cripplecreek
“But anyway, please just keep the building open if at all possible because the Constitution requires it,” Collette said, according to a court transcript.

This constitutional scholar could be the judge who instantly passes a restraining order putting the law on hold until enough signatures are collected/created to put it on a future ballot. East Lansing has a good supply of leftist Appeals judges eager to do the bidding of thugs and statists.

Millions of dollars, and dozens of high-priced leftist lawyers and PR consultants have the petitions and ad campaigns ready to go, just as soon as the law is signed. Assuming the brownshirt thugs don't "discourage" a fair vote in the first places.

Unless you're from Michigan, and read the obscure sections of the newspapers, people are unaware of all the illegal and strongarm tactics used to try to stop "shall issue", and ending affirmative action in public schools. And they're still looking for ways to overturn those laws.

24 posted on 12/08/2012 8:25:42 PM PST by 300winmag (Overkill Never Fails)
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To: cripplecreek
I got no problem with that but its pretty obvious that the union only wants to disrupt. I read somewhere that it cost almost $7.5 million to repair and clean the capitol building in Wisconsin.

Whomever planned this whole vote out did their homework, i,e. lessons learned from WI, let us look at the evidence.

* They held it in the cold, not the warmth of summer, harder to protest.
* Closed session, so they couldn't come in and if my memory is correct literally crap in the halls like they did in WI.
* Did after an election, where many Unions are tired and broker post Obama's latest run.
* Literally had it in the Xmas season, how many Union folks are going to go protest when their wifes Xmas party is that night or they have to go to their kids Xmas Recital?
* With all the chaos with the Fiscal Cliff and "Detwaa" what a better time to launch this.

Tactically, Brilliant simply brilliant...

25 posted on 12/08/2012 8:31:42 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: Graybeard58

What ticks me off is except for Dept of Ed, Carters pay off to the union, I think most of the crap came to us via Republicans, oh Except War on Poverty that we lost. that was Johnson and it was done for votes


26 posted on 12/08/2012 8:43:37 PM PST by goat granny
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To: cripplecreek
Robert Davis, a union activist and Highland Park school board member, filed a similar suit alleging Open Meetings Act violations, according to the Detroit Free Press.

Feel free to google this guy and find out that suing School Boards and city governments on the Open Meeting Act is how he makes his living. He is a low-life.

27 posted on 12/08/2012 9:05:50 PM PST by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage (I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

My cousin is an up and coming union activist. I call him an up and coming prison inmate.

Its really too bad because he’s a good guy but has bought the whole union line, lock stock and barrel. They’ve pumped his ego up with crap about what a big man he is but will toss him aside like garbage when they’re done with him.


28 posted on 12/09/2012 5:25:29 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Mears
"What’s next—calling them pigs? Reminds me of the 60s. Jerk !

Touched a nerve?

Hot flash: None of us "civilians" care if some skinhead, bloused booted, taser happy, torturing theif gets home at night. They've used up all the good wll they ever had.

They are the ones who are Obama's front line in his quest for a world dictatorship, and they are the ones who are going to take the first casualties in the Civil War, Part 2.

29 posted on 12/09/2012 12:25:15 PM PST by jonascord (Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears thingle Star!)
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To: cripplecreek

Amendment#1 says you have the “Right to PEACEABLE ASSEMBLY FOR THE PETITION OF REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES “ The key word is PEACEABLE which is not what is going on in this case but mob action & breach of the peace.


30 posted on 12/09/2012 12:46:30 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner
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