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NYT's Helene Cooper: Obama Will "Have To Own" Recession If We Go Over Cliff (video)
RealClearPolitics ^ | December 9, 2012 | RealClearPolitics

Posted on 12/09/2012 10:49:20 AM PST by i88schwartz

HELENE COOPER, NEW YORK TIMES: "I really do think at the end of the day, Larry, what you describe sounds like sort of the White House negotiating right now -- easily saying, 'Yeah, we can go over the fiscal cliff.' But at the end of the day, this is a president, he would have to own it. He may not think he has to own the recession; but if we go over that, he is going to have to own that. And that's something he definitely knows."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barackobama; helenecooper; recession

1 posted on 12/09/2012 10:49:29 AM PST by i88schwartz
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To: i88schwartz

My butt . . . . this NYT reporter is reading straight from the WH script.


2 posted on 12/09/2012 10:53:14 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: i88schwartz

No he won’t.


3 posted on 12/09/2012 10:54:55 AM PST by HChampagne
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To: i88schwartz

No No No! It’s BUSH’S FAULT!!!


4 posted on 12/09/2012 10:55:14 AM PST by Argus
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To: i88schwartz

Hogwash.


5 posted on 12/09/2012 10:56:19 AM PST by Tax-chick (More than you ever wanted to know, right?)
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To: i88schwartz

Why would he have to own it?

He’ll blame Republicans, progressive statists congressmen will blame Republicans, the media will blame Republicans, unions will blame Republicans, college professors will blame Republicans.

So again, why would he have to own it?


6 posted on 12/09/2012 11:01:38 AM PST by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: CriticalJ

You forgot one: RINOs will blame Republicans.


7 posted on 12/09/2012 11:02:49 AM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: i88schwartz

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

Obama will do just what he wants to do at the time and
whatever that is will be just fine with the media.


8 posted on 12/09/2012 11:17:19 AM PST by Sivad (Nor Cal Red Turf)
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To: i88schwartz

The Kenyan will never have to own a bad economy. His state controlled “media” won’t let him. Their “messiah” can do no wrong. It has to be somebody else’s fault.


9 posted on 12/09/2012 11:19:48 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I feel sad for my once great country. We deserve everything that is about to happen to us.)
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To: i88schwartz

Whatever the Republicans think, say or do, they will own the consequences of anything obama does.

That’s just the way it is in the obamanation.


10 posted on 12/09/2012 11:37:39 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
own[ing] a bad economy.

As long as the gravy train is moving, the appearance of the economy to his base is not only fine, but humming along quite well. Immaterial factors include inflation, unemployment, deficit, debt, unfunded liabilities.

11 posted on 12/09/2012 11:37:39 AM PST by C210N (In favor of private rights and public happiness)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

So there is no upside for (R)s. Then shut it down. Or forth a plan & walk away. This administration will blink IF the (R)s stand up to it. Silly me. I forgot - they are both the same & the taxpayers will end up with higher taxes. A government of, by & for the oligarchs.


12 posted on 12/09/2012 11:40:39 AM PST by Digger
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To: 1rudeboy

He doesn’t care. The MSM will blame it on Republicans, Dubya, etc. Obama is the Teflon Man. Nothing sticks to him.


13 posted on 12/09/2012 11:43:38 AM PST by whitedog57
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To: C210N

I think as long as workers can go straight to “disabiliity” once their unemployment checks run out, Barry will continue to be considered a magical “messiah”. Workers are going from the unemployment line straight to Barry’s new “American dream”. “Disability” checks. Barry is their man. Mmmmm! Mmmmm! Mmmmm!


14 posted on 12/09/2012 11:45:41 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I feel sad for my once great country. We deserve everything that is about to happen to us.)
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To: i88schwartz
Dec. 2012 HELENE COOPER: "But at the end of the day, this is a president, he . . . may not think he has to own the recession; but . . . he is going to have to . . . [a]nd that's something he definitely knows."

April 2013 First quarter GDP hits -2% . . .

April 2013: HELENE COOPER: "It's Bush's fault!"

15 posted on 12/09/2012 11:59:05 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; All
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16 posted on 12/09/2012 12:14:19 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: i88schwartz

I expect him to be a proud owner. Anything that makes America weaker and George Soros stronger is good in Obama’s eyes.


17 posted on 12/09/2012 12:23:09 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: i88schwartz

Obama will just consider it...mission accomplished.


18 posted on 12/09/2012 12:29:09 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt.)
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To: i88schwartz

Blah, blah, blah, blah. Nitwits have been saying that kind of thing for awhile now. The MSM will never go there and Fox News will only broadcast what gets ratings and sells commercial time. They’re all crap.

The only thing more idiotic is when I read a post or article that begins “bombshell”. Be assured that it NEVER is.


19 posted on 12/09/2012 12:38:24 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: i88schwartz

Why in the world isn’t Boehner and the other Repubs screaming at the top of their lungs that it is Obama who will be responsible for going over the cliff because he is the one who won’t negotiate?

They are either complicit or idiots. Or both.


20 posted on 12/09/2012 12:51:52 PM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: CriticalJ

Republicans are the Obama equivalent of Trotskyite wreckers in the old USSR.


21 posted on 12/09/2012 1:00:06 PM PST by Argus
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To: i88schwartz

Obama always gets what he wants and the Republicans get the blame.


22 posted on 12/09/2012 1:00:13 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: Dapper 26
Obama always gets what he wants and the Republicans get the blame.

Since Jan. 20, 2009.

23 posted on 12/09/2012 1:04:18 PM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: i88schwartz

Hey lady! 0bama don’ havta’ do nuthin”! Where ya been?


24 posted on 12/09/2012 1:11:30 PM PST by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: i88schwartz
Just laying the groundwork to blame Repubs for the coming recession/depression, and it will come, no matter what is decided. Zero's re-election decided that.
25 posted on 12/09/2012 1:36:59 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: i88schwartz; Alamo-Girl; joanie-f; metmom; hosepipe; Jeff Head
He may not think he has to own the recession; but if we go over that, he is going to have to own that. And that's something he definitely knows."

That's simply NUTZ.

Zero knows if we go off the fiscal cliff, several good things (from his perspective) will occur: (1) tax rates will rise on all American taxpayers (the roughly 47% of non-taxpayers would be unaffected, so why should they care, as long as they get their "bennies?"); (2) Defense spending will be cut by some $300 billion (the defense sequester); (3), discretionary spending will be cut likewise — but I doubt 0bama loses any sleep over this, because such would be priorities for instant restoration, and he can handle that.... Meanwhile, he fully intends to place the blame on Congressional Republicans for the ensuing financial debacle, and is pretty sure he can make that charge "'stick."

This is what worries pusillanimous Republicans in the House, notably, eminently including Speaker Boehner.

But I say to them, it is preferable to go over the fiscal cliff than to negotiate with this guy — especially if they have to cede — heaven forfend! — the power of debt ceiling increase to the President, and yet another round of federal fiscal stimulus/"investment."

I say since 0bama claims a "mandate" from the last election to raise taxes, let the taxes rise — on everybody alike. Let ALL the Bush era tax cuts expire; let the economy tank; let the jobless numbers rise; let businesses fail across the board.

This is precisely what the unwitting supporters of President Zero voted for on November 6th.

I say to the Congressional GOP: Let these feckless voters SEE exactly what they voted FOR. Get out of the way, and let 0bama take us over the cliff, into a profound recession, a credit downgrade, potentially leading to national bankruptcy.

Though there will be terrible suffering involved (likely including my own, and my own family's), I think it's better to "nip the problem in the bud" as early as possible, even though it leads to sharp suffering in the short-term. That, to me, is preferable to "death by a thousand cuts," which I believe is where Speaker Boehner is leading us, with his naive belief that President 0bama is the least bit interested in "negotiating" with him.

0bama's plan for reducing America and the Constitution is proceeding apace. He thinks he "wins" whether we go over the fiscal cliff, or gets concessions out of Boehner.

He thinks he's sitting in the cat-bird seat, that he "wins" either way....

Anyhoot, JMHO, FWIW.

Just one last thought: "Pride ever cometh before the fall."

26 posted on 12/09/2012 1:43:08 PM PST by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: i88schwartz

For me, the quote describing the media’s and the Dem voters attitude towards anything Obama does comes from the vapid “Love Story:” “Love is never having to say you’re sorry.”

If there’s blame to be had, Obama will shift it to Bush, or Boehner, or the Kochs, or anyone else... and as far as the MSM is concerned, he will be successful in so doing.


27 posted on 12/09/2012 1:46:47 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks i88schwartz.
He may not think he has to own the recession; but if we go over that, he is going to have to own that. And that's something he definitely knows.
Yeah, right. He's been blaming everyone else for everything since before he was spawned.


28 posted on 12/09/2012 1:47:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: i88schwartz
Article on Drudge today (no comment necessary):

John Boehner and Barack Obama meet (12/09/12)

29 posted on 12/09/2012 1:51:17 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: 1rudeboy
this NYT reporter is reading straight from the WH script.

Yep, the NY Slime and Cooper setting up to be able to say anything after the event occurs no matter which way we go.

Whatever bad happens, it's the Republicans fault and they did it on purpose.

Whatever good happens, Obama "knew" he would "own" it, if he didn't "stand firm", and assure this outcome.

Kid play this game flipping coins, "heads I win, tails, you lose".

30 posted on 12/09/2012 1:51:22 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: i88schwartz
Obama Will "Have To Own" Recession If We Go Over Cliff

If Obama does end up "owning" the recession, can he sell it?

31 posted on 12/09/2012 2:01:01 PM PST by Isabel C.
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To: i88schwartz

2013 start of the four year Omama recession.


32 posted on 12/09/2012 2:06:34 PM PST by Vaduz
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To: Navy Patriot

I’ll be the contrarian on this thread. Many Americans are high as a kite on hopium. ....and with the help of the media are not about to put down the pipe. But like all addicts reality inevitably has it’s way. Right now were out. The GOP ...conservatives...the whole brand has been tarnished for many reasons. There however us one force that will enforce sobriety and that is the markets. We can’t just keep peddling bad paper without blowback....and when it happens I would advise the Rwpubs to stand back as far as possible. The dims will take the fall. You cannot eat gay marriage and free condoms indefinitely.


33 posted on 12/09/2012 2:13:39 PM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: i88schwartz
NYT's Helene Cooper: Obama Will "Have To Own" Recession If We Go Over Cliff (video)

Drivel! Pure drivel! The NYT will lead the charge blaming it on (fill in the blank...anyone but obama).

If Boehner has an ounce of guts...which I doubt...he will let the cliff happen and go on the media offensive...which I doubly doubt.

34 posted on 12/09/2012 2:17:35 PM PST by stevem
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To: Blackirish
I’ll be the contrarian on this thread.

OK

There however is one force that will enforce sobriety and that is the markets. We can’t just keep peddling bad paper without blowback...

So far that's not contrarian, that's Natural Economic Law.

when it happens I would advise the Rwpubs to stand back as far as possible. The dims will take the fall.

I would let you get away with that if you would add one word: "Eventually". However, I get your point.

That said I can't see the MSM branch of the Rat party backing off the outright lies, blame shifting and coverup that has worked the useful idiots so well for them up to now. Only after the most stupid Rat zombie says "where's my stuff" to his block commissar, maybe then.

35 posted on 12/09/2012 2:42:55 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: i88schwartz

Obama is protected by the media and his demented believers as well as endstage PC. He will topple ONLY when he takes down America, not before. We are on a ride and we know where it will end. Now, let’s talk about somthing else...


36 posted on 12/09/2012 3:14:14 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: i88schwartz
Recession?


37 posted on 12/09/2012 10:26:07 PM PST by clearcarbon
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