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What Comes First: Syrian Chemical Attack Or US-Led Showdown? (Special Ops in Theatre)
Debkafiles ^ | December 9, 2012, 12:03

Posted on 12/09/2012 8:22:41 PM PST by drewh

For the past week, US officials have kept up a flow of leaks to the media suggesting that Syrian President Bashar Assad was on the verge of ordering his army to unleash chemical weapons. The details built up as the week went by, starting with the detection of “unusual movements” of Syrian chemical weapons units, advancing to reports that the Syrians were “mixing precursor chemicals” for the nerve gas sarin and on Thursday, Dec. 6, that bombs had been made ready with sarin gas for loading onto Syrian Air Force fighter-bombers when Assad gave the word.

Saturday, Dec. 8, British Foreign Secretary William Hague reported evidence from intelligence sources that Syria is preparing to use chemical weapons. British intelligence sources added that Syria's chemical weapons are concentrated at five air bases and are being closely watched. They said contingency plans have been drawn up if they show signs of being readied to be loaded and used as weapons.

Military sources disclosed that US, Israeli, Jordanian and Turkish special forces are spread out on the ground in Syria, armed with special gear for combating chemical arms. They are close enough to count the convoys carrying canisters, shells or bombs loaded with poison gas and their reports are supplemented by orbiting US military surveillance satellites and drones able to pinpoint the position of the chemical munitions at any given moment.

Sources also reported Saturday that the rebels had seized a “chlorine factor” at Al Safir, the cover name for Bashar Assad’s largest chemical store and base, where also he keeps Syrian Scud D missiles armed with chemical warheads ready to fire at Israel.

The strange thing about these tactics is this: If “US officials” – military and intelligence – were able to keep track step by step of the movements of Syria’s poisonous weapons, believe that sooner or later Assad will use them and have issued grave warnings, why didn’t they take preventive action in good time?

Yet to date, President Barack Obama has held back from ordering an attack on the Syrian army’s chemical units – just as the Syrian ruler is abstaining from issuing the final “go” order to use those weapons.

We seem to be witnessing a high-stake poker game between Washington and Damascus over a deck of chemical cards, each waiting to see who blinks first.

If the Americans attack, Assad will feel he is justified in releasing his poisonous gas over Turkey, Jordan and Israel.

But if Assad loses his nerve and lets loose with chemical weapons inside or outside Syria, the Americans will come crashing down on him with the full might of the US air, sea and marine forces standing by off the Syrian coast, along with Turkish, Israeli and Jordanian strikes against targets in Syria.

Tuesday Dec. 6, Syrian chemical weapons units positioned near the capital, Damascus were first sighted by military and intelligence personnel heading north on the road to Aleppo armed with shells loaded with nerve agents - sarin and possibly XV. Three days later, the movements continued to destinations unknown.

Intelligence experts are speculating that these convoys may be decoys for distracting attention from still- undiscovered poison gas caches. Large-scale Western naval and marines forces are therefore on elevated readiness for responding to any unexpected Syrian moves.

Those experts offer two theories about the destination of the chemicals weapons. One is that they are not destined for any of the battle fronts against the rebels, but for the Alawite Mountains; Assad is getting ready to retreat from Damascus and barricade himself in his mountain stronghold accompanied by the forces still loyal to him. Another theory is that from the Allawite Mts. near the coast, the Syrian ruler was planning to hit American and Turkish soldiers with chemical weapons as they came ashore.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chemicalweapons; syriachemicalweapons; syrianato; syrianatowar; syriawar

1 posted on 12/09/2012 8:22:54 PM PST by drewh
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To: drewh
sarin and possibly XV

It's good they don't have VX. Mistakes like that destroy the credibility of an article.

/johnny

2 posted on 12/09/2012 8:29:02 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: drewh

I think the “rebels” will use chem weapons and Assad will get the blame from Obama.


3 posted on 12/09/2012 8:31:25 PM PST by DBrow
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To: JRandomFreeper

What the heck is XV?


4 posted on 12/09/2012 8:32:27 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: drewh

We need to do NOTHING. Just protect Israel from Islamic violence and war.


5 posted on 12/09/2012 8:33:40 PM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: DBrow

I’m beginning to think that, too.


6 posted on 12/09/2012 8:35:10 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: drewh

Is there a video Rice can blame WWIII on yet?


7 posted on 12/09/2012 8:35:55 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
What the heck is XV?

Nothing that was covered in my NBC classes. I'm assuming it came from a clueless fiction author with no personal experince in the gas chamber.

/johnny

8 posted on 12/09/2012 8:36:46 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Jeez...it’s a typo. From people to whom English is a second language.

I know it’s Debka...but all you need to do is say that.

If we picked on every typo and horrible grammar error we would never finish an article.


9 posted on 12/09/2012 8:39:37 PM PST by Vermont Lt (We are so screwed.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

We know what comes later. The “Arab Spring” will spawn the “United Islamic Republic” soon to be endorsed by plebiscites in Egypt, Syria and Libya, allied with and patterned after Iran. Just wish someone would ask Obama or Clinton some tough questions.


10 posted on 12/09/2012 8:39:57 PM PST by allendale
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To: Vermont Lt
Ell tee... you just don't make mistakes like that with things like chem warfare. If I can ID weapons from cyrillic markings, and not screw them up, writers of articles claiming potential serious consequences can get it right.

It's so easy, a cook can do it, sir.

/johnny

11 posted on 12/09/2012 8:45:43 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: drewh

Rebels will provide “proof” of a chemical attack. Could be easily done with shells the Libyans provided. The CIA under Obama, or Libyan rebels both have a strong incentive to get us in on Syria.
But whatever, they’ll provide some flimsy proof, and the Wahabbist Jihadis will have our full military machine on their side.
And if someone proves it was fake 6 months later, who will care?

But we are determined to join the MB islamist side. We might as well paint green crescents on our F-18s. In Egypt they have crucified people and established a sharia dictatorship. And we are on their side.


12 posted on 12/09/2012 8:53:33 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks drewh.


13 posted on 12/09/2012 9:01:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: drewh

I heard that in some months GayMuzzie and his buddies will apply the Libya/Syria formula to Oman and Jordan, too.

Maybe a year.


14 posted on 12/09/2012 9:03:12 PM PST by gaijin
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear; JRandomFreeper

XV may be a copy typo for VX, a very deadly and very difficult to handle binary nerve agent.


15 posted on 12/09/2012 9:18:45 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: DBrow
I think the “rebels” will use chem weapons and Assad will get the blame from Obama.

For a precedent (or a handy script), how about that Racak Massacre?

16 posted on 12/09/2012 9:38:35 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

maybe its the antidote to VX?


17 posted on 12/09/2012 9:56:09 PM PST by RitchieAprile (the obsteperous gentleman..)
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To: Carry_Okie
For a precedent (or a handy script), how about that Racak Massacre?

I remember the first time I saw that footage, something bothered me, something didn't seem right about it.

Several hours later, it occurred to me. If you're going to massacre a unit, you do it all at once, in one place -- leave a heap of bodies and go on your way. You don't walk them one-by-one 50' up a gully and execute them, leaving bodies scattered bodies in the creekbed and up the gullies.

Upon reflection, the reason nis obvious. The latter method is inefficient, time-consuming...and incurs some unnecessary dangers. That the "educated" journalists with the news networks couldn't figure this out was a little stunning.

Racak taught me why all Islamic propaganda is so amateurish and transparent. It doesn't take much effort to fool the liberal western media -- who aren't after the truth anyway. They're simply advancing an agenda...

18 posted on 12/09/2012 10:04:44 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: okie01
Racak taught me why all Islamic propaganda is so amateurish and transparent.

Read the whole thread at the link above. The Racak Massacre was staged by an American CIA agent by the name of William Walker, grandson of George Herbert Walker, cousin of the next President, and namesake of the same proto-KKK guy who named himself Emperor or Nicaragua.

These Masonic creeps have been pulling that kind of crap for that long.

19 posted on 12/09/2012 10:13:24 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: drewh

Now that commander zero has turned over most of the sunni ME to the MB he needs to deal with the hashemites in Syria, the shiites in Iran and Israel. He can smell the sunni caliphate from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.


20 posted on 12/09/2012 10:13:31 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Dallas59; drewh
We need to do NOTHING. Just protect Israel from Islamic violence and war.

Keep in mind that Someone has already weighed in... He just didn't elaborate on the timeline...

Refer to Isaiah Chapter 17 for details (verse 1 seems particularly salient.)

21 posted on 12/09/2012 10:29:33 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: drewh

Thanks for the suspicious posting it just brings out the conspiratorial in me.


22 posted on 12/09/2012 11:38:40 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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To: Eagles6; drewh

B.H.Obama2 is neither Muslim nor Christian except when it is politically expedient.

BHO2 is an atheist because he is a communist, and a narcissistic megalomaniac dictator wannabe. He is a self-avowed Marxist-Leninist and has been one since his days at Occidental College.

I would like to prefer the belief that he isn’t smart enough to do what I suspect is about to happen, but he seems to be manipulating the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaida in a most skillfull way. Between Russia and oursleves, the Islamists will be obliterated.

What he is doing is using the radical Islamists to destroy whatever emerging capital markets exist in the Middle East. Since many of those ‘nations’ rely on imported food, by disrupting the western-style economies BHO2 has weakened the region to the point there may be widespread starvation this coming year. North Africa and much of the Middle East will be unable to buy food as they will have nothing to sell internationally.

Prostrate from warring among themslves, with Israel no doubt taking out Syria and Iran in a self-defense move, Russia gets to pick up the oil wealth of the Middle East.

Who else is there to stop Putin?


23 posted on 12/09/2012 11:44:53 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: DBrow

I think the “rebels” with the help of American agents will use chem weapons and Assad will get the blame from Obama.

I have lost any and all faith in my government and its not just oboma at fault. The groundwork and foundation for his doings were laid well before he arrived.

The D of C is unable to tell the truth about anything.


24 posted on 12/10/2012 4:39:28 AM PST by winodog (Thank you Jesus for the calm in my life)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Dyslexia is a horrible disease. I would assume the reporter meant ‘VX’... In which case, it is an organophosphate originally invented as a pesticide called ‘Amiton’. It was very effective, but found to be extremely toxic to people and was withdrawn in the 1950’s.

That’s when the British weapons researchers found it, boosted its potency and designated it as a class of agents known as ‘V’.

The most potent version was designated ‘VX’. The rest... Is history.

Not a substance to play with. But the two precursor chemicals are benign. Mix them... You’re toast.

It effectively causes convulsions followed by complete paralysis. Killing the victim in a long (minutes) drawn out and agonizing process: After most of your bones are broken, you stop breathing and your heart stops... But you’re still alive for another 3 minutes or so. Hopefully unconcious.


25 posted on 12/10/2012 7:04:43 AM PST by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: SatinDoll
I agree that zero is a narcisstic communist and that he is not a Christian. Culturally he is a muslim whether he believes that shiite or not although he probably believes that he himself is a god and is perfectly willing to bow to the "king of the holy places" and to proclaim that "the future will not belong to those that insult the prophet of iscrap". although nary a peep regarding the murders and persecution of hundreds of thousands of Christians in the ME.

I believe that he is working toward a sunni caliphate but I will keep your theory in mind, not implausible at all. Then again who would of thought that a commie rabble rouser that never had a job could be squatting in the White House.

26 posted on 12/10/2012 10:31:43 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: SatinDoll

“Who else is there to stop Putin?”

Ezekiel 37 and 38


27 posted on 12/11/2012 6:01:57 AM PST by mdmathis6 ("Barry" Xmas to all and have a rapaciously taxable New Year!)
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