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Washington Post complains Israel's Iron Dome missile defense is too perfect
American Thinker ^ | 12/10/2012 | Leo Rennert

Posted on 12/10/2012 8:16:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Israel strengthened its military deterrence during the recent clash with Hamas by demonstrating that its Iron Dome missile defense intercepted Israel-bound rockets from Gaza 84 percent of the time. Most media accounts of Iron Dome in action marveled at its precision performance in preventing most of the rockets from reaching their targets in southern Israel - although a few did get through its new defensive net. Iron Dome was widely credited with keeping Israeli casualties to a bare minimum.

But that's not exactly the view of the Washington Post in its Sunday, Dec. 9, edition. In a front-page article that spills over two pages inside the paper, correspondent Scott Wilson sees a decidedly darker side to Iron Dome. Its very success, he argues, could prompt Israel henceforth to go into a defensive crouch and lose interest in advancing the peace process ("In Iron Dome, an emblem of Israel's unmet challenges").

"Iron Dome has become an emblem of the unmet challenges that sit at the center of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict," Wilson writes. The key issue, he adds, is whether Iron Dome will motivate Israel's leaders to pursue peace with the Palestinians and the wider Arab world or insulate them from having to do so. "Israelis of various political leanings (not otherwise identified) see worrying evidence in the system's defensive nature that their country, rather than working to resolve its security problems through decisive military action or lasting peace treaties, is acquiescing to a siege mentality

"If only Israel's diplomacy could be as inventive, many Israelis (otherwise not identified) say, perhaps a solution to the Palestinian conflict could have been found by now."

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: irondome; israel; missiledefense; waronterror

1 posted on 12/10/2012 8:16:28 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
...working to resolve its security problems through decisive military action...

THAT truly works for me. Glad the Washington Pist thinks so!

2 posted on 12/10/2012 8:20:34 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: SeekAndFind
Of course!

To the left, it's not Fair for someone to have an advantage over someone else; it's discrimination.

I remember during the Iraq liberation the left was complaining about American troops having an unfair advantage with their night-vision equipment/Sheesh

3 posted on 12/10/2012 8:23:23 AM PST by PROCON (MERRY CHRISTMAS!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m betting that the New York Times locks the doors of their offices each night, and that they have security measures between their executive offices and the mean streets of the city.

Using their logic, they should be ashamed of themselves. How can they ever understand the problems of the street dwellers this way? How can they ever learn to co-exist with them?

They should destroy the locks and fire the guards. It’s only fair.


4 posted on 12/10/2012 8:26:52 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Obamacare is the socialist cancer of the New Deal metastasized.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I truly believe my 6 year old grandson has more intellect than the writers at WaPo. What’s said is the writers are voicing the sentiment of a large part of the liberal media.


5 posted on 12/10/2012 8:30:02 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: PROCON

Liberalism is truly a mental disorder.


6 posted on 12/10/2012 8:30:10 AM PST by mkboyce
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To: SeekAndFind

This guy’s formulation makes no sense. I could see how the dome might be blamed for encouraging Israel to be more aggressive. But to argue it puts Israel in a defensive crouch and allows them to sit back and not pursue peace, huh? If they are able to sit back and enjoy themselves that is peace, you boob.

What he means, probably, is that the defensive shield will dissuade them from sacrificing territory and helping create a freestanding, self-sufficient Palestinian state. Which is called “peace,” but is something else.


7 posted on 12/10/2012 8:34:49 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: SeekAndFind

One of the (very) few things good things about the MSM in the present day is that they have removed any doubt that they have an almost complete lack of ability in virtually every field - save for lying.

However, they’d receive an “A” in Liberal Logic (the mother of all oxymorons)from any ivy league school.


8 posted on 12/10/2012 8:36:39 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: SeekAndFind

Israel’s been pursuing peace since 1948. Maybe Iron Dome will prompt a few Palestinians to do the same; deterrence did prompt Israel’s other neigbours to back off.


9 posted on 12/10/2012 8:37:55 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: SeekAndFind; zot

Ah, the Soviet KGB’s disinformation campaign and arguments is still alive. Wilson’s arguments are basically the same the KGB funded American and European “Peace Movements” used against our nuclear missile forces, the deployment of anti-ballastice missile defenses (ground launched missiles which were actually developed and deployed to one site), and most famously to President Reagan’s Space Defenxe Initiative.

And we see the same today in President Obama’s move to dismantle all of the US’s remaining nuclear weapons under the theory “if we don’t have nukes, other nations won’t ‘fear us’ and will stop wanting their own nukes.”


10 posted on 12/10/2012 8:40:30 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: SeekAndFind

The liberal mindset: Israel always has to Pursue peace. Even if that means they have to die to do it. If they choose to “not die” that is seen as a negative


11 posted on 12/10/2012 8:41:12 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
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To: EternalVigilance
I’m betting that the New York Times locks the doors of their offices each night, and that they have security measures between their executive offices and the mean streets of the city. Using their logic, they should be ashamed of themselves. How can they ever understand the problems of the street dwellers this way? How can they ever learn to co-exist with them? They should destroy the locks and fire the guards. It’s only fair.

You have a great message - wish the Washington Post, New York Times and all the other dying newspapers could read it. This is why people are dropping subscriptions... it's not the Internet, it's not bad spelling, it's not inadequate writing - it's the stupidity of their ideas.

12 posted on 12/10/2012 8:45:44 AM PST by GOPJ (It takes courage to resist physical oppression -greater to resist cultural oppression-Sultan Knish)
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To: SeekAndFind

The only peace that exists in the middle east is the peace within Israel’s well guarded borders. Outside those borders is chaos and savagery.


13 posted on 12/10/2012 8:46:45 AM PST by marron
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To: Squawk 8888

Neah.

Literally NOTHING will cause the Egyptian and Jordanian Arabs of Gaza and the West Bank to seek peace with Israel. These Arabs could be facing utter annihilation and the only thing that they would seek would be “hudna” or a fake truce while they rearmed, rebuilt and retrained.

The Israelis need to close off the gates to Gaza - nothing and no one, in or out. They also need to cut the water and power that they provide and for which the Arabs of Gaza do not pay. They need to control the border bewtween Gaza and Egypt and maintain a blockade of their coast.

The only thing to come in by sea or across the Egyptian Border should be food, medical supplies, and materials to build infrastructure (the Arabs need to build their own power water and agriculture systems...). If they’re busy farming and building, they might not have as much time for Jihad - and they’ll have something to lose if they DO try Jihad...


14 posted on 12/10/2012 8:51:50 AM PST by Little Ray (Get back to work. Your urban masters need their EBTs refilled.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The same drivel came from the CPUSA (Communist Party USA aka the enemy within democrats) when Pres Reagan wanted a missile shield. The communists in the former USSR and China all agreed with our Communist Party that this was dangerous.

So the WPost is simply regurgitating their pro-communist agenda. Strength through weakness and lead from behind all in the name of fairness.


15 posted on 12/10/2012 8:53:30 AM PST by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Wurlitzer

sheesh.. these lefties even believe in equality when it comes to warfare.

not fair that one side should be winning..

just not fair.. good lord these people are children.


16 posted on 12/10/2012 9:09:57 AM PST by Chuzzlewit
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To: Alas Babylon!

Yes, that’s it exactly. The writer talks about three courses of action in responding to the rocket attacks: retaliate in a way that ensures victory (and peace), submit in a way that ensures peace ( in theory, but highly unlikely) or entrench (Iron Dome) and do nothing.

I’m not sure that entrenching is Israels best option here. It’s a much better alternative than submitting (in perpetuity, to an enemy that would never be satisfied). But a lesser one IMHO to going for an overwhelming win by putting the militaries of it’s opponents out of commission. Which it has the capability of accomplishing (without resorting to nukes ... Although a nuke dropped on an isolated Iranian military compound would send one heck of a strong message)


17 posted on 12/10/2012 9:11:30 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: SeekAndFind

It is not fair. Muslims are too stupid to build their own.


18 posted on 12/10/2012 9:12:15 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: Chuzzlewit

Shouldn’t these washington pest “writers” stick their pencils deep into their eyes? That would save society the embarrassment of reading their liberal drivel.


19 posted on 12/10/2012 9:13:04 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: PROCON

No so sure about that. Its only unfair if those liberals disapprove have the upper hand. In all others cases its ‘fair’.


20 posted on 12/10/2012 9:21:00 AM PST by 556x45
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To: SeekAndFind

“If only more terrorist rockets could blow up Jews in their homes and Jewish children in their schools, we would be closer to world peace, Allahu Akbar” /s

We need to quit looking at this as a war of ideas where we can sway these armchair jihadi socialists with reason, because they don’t care what truth is. They’re operating under the theory that any lie becomes truth if you repeat it often enough.


21 posted on 12/10/2012 9:24:26 AM PST by fattigermaster
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To: tanknetter

A nuke dropped on that rock in Saudi Arabia would send an even stronger message.

Remove the rock, erase islam.


22 posted on 12/10/2012 9:37:52 AM PST by Don W (You can forget what you do for a living when your knees are in the breeze.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If this isn’t a wah wah wah moment there has never been one! Gotta love it.


23 posted on 12/10/2012 9:46:07 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: SeekAndFind
could prompt Israel henceforth to go into a defensive crouch""""".........

WELL DUH! imagine that horrible situation/sarc.

Is there something going on in outer space somewhere, is the moon full. All morning long has been thread after thread of some IDIOTIC idea by some "journalist" extolling the horror of such as this, or Dowd and her rant on Republicans being stubborn on not wanting to support the 47%'ers and such..

24 posted on 12/10/2012 11:00:14 AM PST by annieokie
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To: SeekAndFind

The only problem with the Iron Dome is how much its interceptors cost,it is expensive to stop rockets with that system.Apart from that,it is nearly perfect.It prevents terrorists from killing civilians,it takes no lives.....there is nothing wrong with that.


25 posted on 12/10/2012 11:38:20 AM PST by Del Rapier
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To: Alas Babylon!

Of course, any such “decisive military action” would be roundly condemned by the Washington Post.


26 posted on 12/10/2012 11:56:59 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: GreyFriar

Yes, this article is the same as Soviet disinformation, because it comes from the same ideology.

Hamas leaders have said again and again that their goal is the complete destruction of Israel, and as Golda Meier said many years ago, survival is not negotiable.


27 posted on 12/10/2012 5:46:53 PM PST by zot
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To: SeekAndFind
Israelis of various political leanings (not otherwise identified) see worrying evidence in the system's defensive nature that their country, rather than working to resolve its security problems through decisive military action or lasting peace treaties, is acquiescing to a siege mentality

Scott Wilson is hiding his real hatred. How dare the Jews defend themselves and not get "peacefully" into the cattle cars. Sometimes I do believe Hannah Arendt was right.
28 posted on 12/10/2012 5:55:21 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

IOW, “How DARE you duck when they throw things at you?!?” The writer of this op-ed should be dragged out of his office and beheaded by jihadists, and so should his editor. Thanks SeekAndFind.


29 posted on 12/11/2012 9:36:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

This article is misleading. I read the Wapo article and it does NOT emphasize the disincentive to peace. The Wapo article was a good one, in fact. It talked about the siege mentality instead of a military defeat.

Read it for yourself —

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/some-in-israel-see-acquiescence-in-iron-dome-missile-defense-system/2012/12/08/5dc857f4-3d67-11e2-bca3-aadc9b7e29c5_story.html


30 posted on 12/12/2012 8:00:51 AM PST by dervish (either the vote was corrupt or the electorate is)
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