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Dick Armey Blasts Losing GOP: They Said “Stupid Things”
Newsmax ^ | Monday, 10 Dec 2012 10:05 AM | (Newsmax Wires)

Posted on 12/10/2012 10:19:16 AM PST by Olog-hai

The Republican Party and stupid statements by some candidates are to blame for GOP losses in last month’s congressional elections, the former leader of a tea party group said Monday.

Dick Armey, who until recently led the conservative group FreedomWorks, said some GOP candidates said “stupid things” that party leaders should have taught them to avoid saying. He said Republicans had a lot of candidates who did “dumb things” during their campaigns.

Armey, a former Republican House majority leader from Texas, did not specifically mention controversial comments about rape by GOP Senate candidates in Indiana and Missouri that contributed to their defeats in November. Republicans had been hoping to win control of the Senate but ended up losing seats instead, and they lost strength in the House as well. …

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 112th; blunders; dickarmey; fiscalcliff; freedomworks; gope; rinos; romney2012

1 posted on 12/10/2012 10:19:23 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

An old has-been poweratti trying to be relevant. Anything ‘stupid’ that was said in one or two selected MSM feted instances is irrelevant.

We lost this election through the auspices of a humongous number of so-called Americans that have become leeches, and through outright massive voter fraud in critical precincts in key swing electoral states.

Armey should just go off and fade away somewhere.


2 posted on 12/10/2012 10:22:32 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Olog-hai

Dick Armey, you ARE a stupid thing.

You are a RINO stupid thing.

We hate, despise, and f*rt in the general direction of RINOs.

Go away and ...well...assume room temp.


3 posted on 12/10/2012 10:24:25 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Olog-hai

election ping


4 posted on 12/10/2012 10:26:53 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Olog-hai

We need to distinguish between dumb and stupid. The statement about rape was dumb. Saying Guam might tip over because there are too many people on one side is stupid.

There is a difference.


5 posted on 12/10/2012 10:29:00 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything... IS... a conspiracy)
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To: Gaffer
We lost this election through the auspices of a humongous number of so-called Americans that have become leeches,"""".....

And Dick Army did his part to make it so.

6 posted on 12/10/2012 10:29:09 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Olog-hai

Meanwhile that senile old imbecile Joe Biden never says anything stupid.


7 posted on 12/10/2012 10:31:43 AM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: Olog-hai
They must have said something really stupid like "Barney Fag".......
8 posted on 12/10/2012 10:33:23 AM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Olog-hai

Lesson #1 should be STOP TALKING TO THE LIBERAL MEDIA


9 posted on 12/10/2012 10:34:27 AM PST by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: Gaffer
We lost simply because somebody forgot to try to get 3 million of George Bush' Republican voters out to vote.

Actually, that happened twice in a row.

So, what is it you Mittbots have against Bushbots?

10 posted on 12/10/2012 10:36:14 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Lakeshark
They must have said something really stupid like "Barney Fag".
either way he's right; Barney was and the GOP is....



11 posted on 12/10/2012 10:37:50 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today; who can take your income & tax it all away..0Bama man can :)
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To: muawiyah

Peddle it somewhere else muwiah or whatever it is.


12 posted on 12/10/2012 10:38:07 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Olog-hai

The RNC said “Screw the T.E.A. Party” when they didn’t invite Sarah Palin to speak at their little party on our behalf.


13 posted on 12/10/2012 10:40:41 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Olog-hai
Actually, Dick is copying a conclusion I lodged several months ago ~ that Preibus should have been funneling party money into a team of expert politicians who would go to the new guys on the block (folks who'd never run for senate before) to instruct them in how to deal with the press, and how to sound senatorial during the campaign.

Preibus didn't do that ~ we lost 23 seats we could have had.

I think Preibus should be given a choice ~ display before him the instruments of torture. He may chose to stay and be punished, or he may leave. We are not a cruel people after all!

14 posted on 12/10/2012 10:42:15 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Olog-hai; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; ...
RE :”Dick Armey, who until recently led the conservative group FreedomWorks, said some GOP candidates said “stupid things” that party leaders should have taught them to avoid saying. He said Republicans had a lot of candidates who did “dumb things” during their campaigns”

I keep saying the same thing since Angle gave the NV Senate race to Reid two years ago, and the some in the GOP seems to got worse since then, giving Dems effective weapons to use against the GOP.

Maybe the R party needs to create a charm school for the candidates so they stop blowing unlosable races by talking stupid.

Tips :Dont call the voters (as a group) : losers, lazy, soft, moochers. Dont accuse women (as a group) voters of faking rapes. No good comes of this. Unless you are a talk radio show host doing it, then its good for your $$$$.

15 posted on 12/10/2012 10:42:41 AM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: Gaffer

Still waiting on your candidate to start campaigning ~ he’s the weakest candidate in American history. Didn’t say a thing.


16 posted on 12/10/2012 10:43:47 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Lakeshark
That is my favorite Freaudian slip of all time.

However, I disagree that Armey is a big part of the problem or a RINO.

17 posted on 12/10/2012 10:49:21 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Da Coyote

Armey is anything but a RINO. He is one of the genuine conservative leaders who has stood on principle for years. He is absolutely right that several GOP candidates - some of them very good candidates otherwise - made some incredibly stupid statements, that were then blown up way out of proportion, that probably cost them races that they should have won.

It is a shame that we don’t have dozens more like Armey still in congress.


18 posted on 12/10/2012 10:58:21 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Olog-hai

Hey [you] Dick, send me a fund raising letter. I dare you.


19 posted on 12/10/2012 11:02:31 AM PST by DManA
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To: Olog-hai

He’s right. Nothing’s changed about abortion for 40 years. There’s no excuse for any politician that doesn’t have a stock, uncontroversial answer for every different permutation of the question.


20 posted on 12/10/2012 11:03:25 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: VRWCmember
He is like an autoimmune disease - where the body turns against itself. He is Dick Lupus.
21 posted on 12/10/2012 11:05:09 AM PST by DManA
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To: lonestar; Lakeshark
That is my favorite Freaudian slip of all time.

What made it even funnier was when one of the democrat leaders (like a John Kerry or somebody of his "stature" in the party) was complaining and criticizing Armey about it, and he said (verbatim) "Dick Armey can call Barney Fife 'Barney Fag' and then call it a slip of the tongue, ..."

So this oh so eloquent and pompous democrat criticized Armey for a slip of the tongue for referring to Barney Frank with the wrong name while referring to Barney Frank with the name of an inept fictional deputy that can't be trusted with more than one bullet for his gun. Hilarious.

22 posted on 12/10/2012 11:08:11 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Olog-hai

Like saying, “Barney-Fag” on the floor of the House.


23 posted on 12/10/2012 11:14:49 AM PST by Texas Songwriter ( i)
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To: Olog-hai

He is right.

In addition the GOP put off a lot of people by its poor treatment of Sarah Palin.

Strategy and tactics are both important things but they are not the same things. The GOP seemingly will never ever learn this.


24 posted on 12/10/2012 11:33:31 AM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Olog-hai

This coming from the same Phallus Armey who pushed NAFTA and Amnesty? Who is calling who stupid?


25 posted on 12/10/2012 11:36:41 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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To: Olog-hai

It is really amazing how some candidates carrying the tea party banner for major offices like Senator were absolute ignoramuses when it came to making statements that hurt not only their own campaign but the Republican message as a whole.

And not just this year, but remember the lady that lost against Harry Reid and the ‘witch’ in Maryland in 2010. Good grief, they were embarrassing to watch.

While there is something to admire about grass-root activists becoming candidates, there is also something to be said about ‘vetting’ these folks by professional party politicians to make sure they aren’t kooks.


26 posted on 12/10/2012 11:46:23 AM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk oMnly to me.Reid)
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To: sickoflibs

Every id10t whining about “takers”, Moochers, and/or ‘the 47%’ *is* part of the problem. no matter what, regardless of circumstances, when a person or group starts making blanket statements about large chunks of the popultion they are more of a problem than what they are whining about.


27 posted on 12/10/2012 12:03:54 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: RedStateRocker

What I like about this statement is that It never, ever applies to Leftist. Evil always prevails with them no matter how much we try to avoid gernaralized statements. They will accuse of doing it anyway by picking out a new word and saying we are using a dog whistle like Rev. Al did on TV or get George Stephonopolis to ask about birth control (even though no one said anything) in primary debate to get the leftist template going. And the irony of all this is that the left gets us with their own stupid generalized statements. We use to call this demogaging.


28 posted on 12/10/2012 12:37:21 PM PST by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: Olog-hai

If Republican politicians didn’t say dumb things the media would have lied and told the gullible American people that they DID say dumb things and the Sheople would have believed it.

Face it. Our media is OWNED by the left and they are completely corrupt.


29 posted on 12/10/2012 12:40:22 PM PST by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP all no different than Pravda.)
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To: RedStateRocker
RE :”Every id10t whining about “takers”, Moochers, and/or ‘the 47%’ *is* part of the problem. no matter what, regardless of circumstances, when a person or group starts making blanket statements about large chunks of the popultion they are more of a problem than what they are whining about.”

I can understand bitterness and resentment right after losing an election, as we see here, but a POTUS candidate doing it while running for POTUS is arrogant and stupid, and his assuming he wouldnt be secretly recorded in this day and age is double stupid.

Another thing, after the first debate where is now looks like O was holding back RINO Sununu (part of the Romney campaign) goes to the MSM in an interview and arrogantly rips O’s lack of debating skills and rips him down personally calling him lazy, disengaged and incompetent. While this is (fun) party talk for AM talk radio host, a member of a POTUS campaign acting so arrogant just demeans the campaign and causes nothing but trouble.

30 posted on 12/10/2012 1:12:26 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: sickoflibs

Anybody too stupid to figure out there is no such thing as context any more is too stupid to run for office.


31 posted on 12/10/2012 2:30:20 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: wildbill
The 'witch' ad was not agreed to nor paid or. it aired once on a public access channel in the wee hours of the morning.

no doubt that really got to the electorate ~

What you need to remember is that DELAWARE is not a Republican state. They like their commie candidates gay if they can get them that way.

32 posted on 12/10/2012 2:54:38 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: RedStateRocker
politicians always get more votes when they fail to complain about the electorate!

sad but true.

didn't somebody tell Romney that one?

See, Preibus should have been on top of right off the bat ~ not just sending out a team to edumacate the Senate candidates, but also the pomposity running for present!

33 posted on 12/10/2012 2:57:12 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: subterfuge
Most Americans get more than half their news from the net ~ and that doesn't mean Yahoo or AOL/Huffpo.

As I noted way back in March, or maybe earlier, any candidate ~ Romney being one ~ whose intent was to wait for the real campaign until a couple of weeks before the election and then flood broadcast TV with canned advertisments, was an idiot in this day and age.

I mentioned that several times more over the course of the summer, and then wouldn't you know it Romney and the MIttbots bought advertising time at double the price paid by Obama from the same folks ~ and ran canned advertisements.

He lost.

The money would have been better spent renting buses to take elderly infirm Republicans to voting stations!

34 posted on 12/10/2012 3:02:52 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: wildbill
It is really amazing how some candidates carrying the tea party banner for major offices like Senator were absolute ignoramuses when it came to making statements that hurt not only their own campaign but the Republican message as a whole.

Akin was not the one that Palin and the Tea Party Express endorsed, Sarah Steelman was, Palin tried to get Akin to withdraw. Palin did not endorse the Nevada candidate during the primary in Nevada either, in 2010. 2010 still turned out to be one of history's greatest elections for republican, largely because of the tea party. Why try to cover up something like that? You don't like Marco Rubio, or Toomey?

We need to focus more on the greater disaster though, the none tea party candidates.

While Palin got in Ted Cruz and Deb Fischer, in our only pick up in an open Senate seat, the virulently anti-Palin, anti-tea party candidate for president, lost it all and gave the nation 4 more years of Obama.

35 posted on 12/10/2012 3:23:01 PM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: ansel12
You know a lot of mormons recoil from the idea of supporting someone ~ anyone in fact ~ who has ever had anything to do with a religious movement they consider strange. Probably why the Mittbots who worked for McCain were so abusive to Sarah ~ she had been a member of a Pentecostal church!

It's a mindless sort of bigotry that has no place in political campaigns.

36 posted on 12/10/2012 4:18:38 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Post 35 triggered that response? I don’t get the connection.


37 posted on 12/10/2012 4:31:00 PM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: ansel12

there seem to be several different groups or individuals who claim the mantle of leadership of the Tea Party when actually there doesn’t seem to be any group or individual with unquestioned leadership.

This happens when you get an uprising of grass roots citizens. No one and everyone is in charge of a centralized organization, mostly because of egos.

It’s obvious that Palin is important—but not in charge or she would have gotten her preferred candidate.

Armey is responding to this lack of professionalism and I agree with most of what he says.


38 posted on 12/11/2012 9:30:52 AM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk oMnly to me.Reid)
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To: wildbill

I never said Palin is in charge of anything, just that she is the single most important individual, Armey is much less important and effective than Palin.

Armey’s group should have followed Palin’s and the tea party express’s lead and supported the woman, Sarah Steelman, over Akin.

Grass roots is what we need to overcome the gross incompetence and anti-conservatism of the GOP establishment.

You guys are a disaster.


39 posted on 12/11/2012 9:42:32 AM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: ansel12

Wow, I’ve been called a lot of names, but never been called one of the establishment before.


40 posted on 12/11/2012 10:42:03 AM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk oMnly to me.Reid)
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To: wildbill

So you are a grassroots up, tea party guy?


41 posted on 12/11/2012 10:55:40 AM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: VRWCmember
He is one of the genuine conservative leaders who has stood on principle for years.

I could agree with this statement: He is one of the genuine Republican leaders who persuaded us he was a true conservative for years.

It is a shame that we don’t have dozens more like Armey still in congress.

We do. That's a big problem. He fooled me more than once, but I'm not buying his style of "conservatism" any longer.
42 posted on 12/11/2012 11:09:49 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: ansel12

I’m just an average guy with some opinions of my own, based on my experience in business and politics over fifty years.

I used to be quite active in Republican politics in Texas when there were virtually no Republican office holders, especially in San Antonio, a Dem bastion. You couldn’t get much more grassroots than that.

So a bunch of us led what I guess you’d call a grassroots movement to build a party. I ran campaigns and was county chairman for folks running for State office like Governor so I have some basis of experience in campaigns and candidates.

One of the lessons I learned early is that you have to have intelligent candidates who can navigate the traps set by the media. And that you have to weed out the kooks, radicals and tin-foil hat candidates.

They always show up first at a grassroots movement because the only way they can get any recognition at all is to be first in line. And then they claim the mantle of leadership.

This is just my experience as an active political operative back in the day.


43 posted on 12/11/2012 12:38:08 PM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk oMnly to me.Reid)
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To: wildbill

I would say that the right wing, grass roots of the party has a better record than the party’s left wing.

Romney was an absolute disaster, one that has hurt us incredibly, one that we can’t be sure hasn’t ruined the party, Romney was the great victory of the party pros who have pushed him for 7 years, and it may be the end for conservatism.

I guess you prefer Crist over Rubio, and Trey Grayson over Paul, Arlen Specter over Toomey and wanted Dewhurst in Texas instead of Ted Cruz, and support the party leadership when they come out against the republican primary winners in Senate races, as they did with Miller, O’Donnell, Akin, and others.

Grassroots conservatives made 2010 a history making victory, and in 2012 as the rinos were destroying the party with the failed Massachusetts governor, Palin gave us Ted Cruz and Deb Fischer.


44 posted on 12/11/2012 12:58:55 PM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: ansel12

You seem determined to put me into a political niche that you have imagined.

Too bad you weren’t around when the Republican party went down to its absolute worst defeat with Barry Goldwater carrying the conservative flag.

The truth is that the US is a center right country that gets frightened by absolutists ideologies of left or right.

I support Reagan’s 11the Commandment: Thou shalt not speak ill of any Republican.

Next, I absolutely loathed Specter, preferred Rubio over Crist and Cruz over Dewhurst. I think Rubio and Cruz give us some smart young Latinos. Didn’t know a thing about Grayson and sorta like Paul and his Dad on some issues, but think his Dad’s good ideas were outweighed by his radical ones and his past history. Saying you won’t take responsibility what went into a newsletter that you published is cowardly.

The strange thing to me about seriously right wing conservatives is that they blame their losses and inability to nominate an ideologue on a conspiracy of “rinos”, the GOP ‘elites’ and ‘establishment.’ It’s always ‘those guys’ fault. And “We’ll get ‘em next time if we can stop them from running and the voters just listen to us.

But there is no conspiracy. Those folks simply don’t think like you do and they have a right to their opinion, don’t they? If they get elected, the voters liked them and their message better than yours. End of Story.

The truth is the right wing of the Party or Tea Party simply can’t find a Presidential candidate that can get enough votes—even in the relatively small confines of a Republican primary.

Trust me Ansel, Presidential politics is about the art of gathering votes, not who has the purest ideological message.


45 posted on 12/11/2012 3:44:03 PM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk oMnly to me.Reid)
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To: wildbill

Seriously? you Romney rino anti-tea party anti-grass roots people coming off one of the most destructive losses since Goldwater because of your choice, and you think the conservatives are the problem?

If we Reagan republicans can’t figure out to how rein you guys in, and get you to stop campaigning against GOP nominees who are too conservative for you, then your party is doomed to irrelevance.


46 posted on 12/11/2012 4:15:11 PM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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