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Obama Moves "Red Line" On Syria's Chemical Weapons
IBD EDITORIALS ^ | December 10, 2012

Posted on 12/10/2012 4:37:58 PM PST by raptor22

Mideast: The chemical weapons that Syria is preparing to use may have come from a stockpile that Iraq used against its own people and which the Russians helped transport to Syria before Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Syria's chemical weapons are on the move, their precursor chemicals having been mixed, a crossing of a line drawn by President Obama Aug. 20 when he said "a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized." So our resolute president decides to draw another line — that if Syria's Bashar al-Assad makes use of those weapons, presumably against his own people or neighbors, he will face "consequences."

Assad must be shaking in his boots, having dispatched 40,000 of his own people by more conventional means without any consequences from the United States. What's another 10,000, Assad must be thinking, even if they go in a quicker and more ghastly way?

Obama's appeasement has come home to roost. Assad remembers how Clinton, appearing on CBS' "Face The Nation," dismissed the idea of U.S. military action or regime change in Syria, claiming that unlike Libya's Moammar Gadhafi, Assad was considered to be a "reformer" by "many of the members of Congress."

He remembers how the Obama administration inexplicably made a recess appointment of Robert Ford to be ambassador to Damascus after President George W. Bush withdrew our ambassador in 2005. That was in response to the bombing that killed former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri in which Syrian involvement was widely suspected.

Will Assad use chemical weapons as Saddam Hussein used nerve gas in 1988 to attack Kurds in the northern Iraqi town of Halabja, killing 5,000 men, women and children? Assad has shown no great regard for human life.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: chemicalweapons; georgessada; ibd; saddamhussein; syria; syriacemicalweapons; wmd
Iraqi general Georges Sada says Saddam Hussein moved his WMD to Syria and they were hid among Syria's stockpile. Read his book, Saddam's Secrets".
1 posted on 12/10/2012 4:38:09 PM PST by raptor22
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To: raptor22

but of course NOT ONE of our Rep politicians is shouting this from the rooftop.They are such nerds, the goody too-shoes from high school, they just can’t play by street rules or even close.
THAT’S why we keep losing the votes..they just can’t get the message across to the average voter.


2 posted on 12/10/2012 4:40:40 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: raptor22

I remember in the run up to the Iraq War in 2002/2003, it was reported that Sadam was possibly moving chemical weapons into Syria.


3 posted on 12/10/2012 4:43:22 PM PST by MachIV
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To: raptor22
Obama Moves "Red Line" On Syria's Chemical Weapons...hmmm - Obama is probably going to try to run away from this as long as he can - too much focus on Syria's chemical weapons and people will start talking about where they came from, and then it will become understood that they started out in Iraq and there really were WMD's before the war, and there goes another big lie about evil George Bush - shattered.....
4 posted on 12/10/2012 4:45:38 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: MachIV; All

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5 posted on 12/10/2012 4:46:13 PM PST by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
but of course NOT ONE of our Rep politicians is shouting this from the rooftop

That Syria has chemical weapons does nothing to prove Iraq had chemical weapons in 2003.

Hence the absence of rooftop-shouting.

6 posted on 12/10/2012 4:46:50 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: MachIV; All

7 posted on 12/10/2012 4:47:49 PM PST by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: raptor22

Obama cannot “move” anything but an uninformed electorate, and he does that very well.


8 posted on 12/10/2012 4:48:01 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Intolerant in NJ
too much focus on Syria's chemical weapons and people will start talking about where they came from, and then it will become understood that they started out in Iraq

People have been talking about where Syria's chemical weapons come from since 1973 - they're from Egypt, Libya, the Soviet Union, and indigenous production plants that have been able to buy precursor chemicals from Europe by hook or by crook.

9 posted on 12/10/2012 4:48:33 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: raptor22
"...may have come from a stockpile that Iraq used against its own people and which the Russians helped transport to Syria before Operation Iraqi Freedom."

Hang on, that's impossible. We were ASSURED that Saddam didn't have weapons of mass destruction when Bush went in to take him down.

The press and the Democrats wouldn't lie about such a thing, would they?

10 posted on 12/10/2012 4:55:36 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: MachIV
You are right....there are satellite pictures showing trucks doing just that. I had for a long time, a letter from a GI to his father telling him how his 'group' were tasked with blowing up huge ammo dumps etc. The MSM and anti Bush/anti war folks kept the lies out there on the air, boob tube, and in the newspapers....we rarely ever got a factual bit of news and if we did, the left shot it down as fast as they could. Baghdad Bob was their friend at first....why should we believe what is being put out there now...no one has questioned Hillary or Obama about Benghazi and the Fast & Furious quick step has almost vanished....our community organizer can threaten all he wants....man! do the al Qaeda tremble....Ohhh, I forgot, Obama and Hillary say they have been defeated............
11 posted on 12/10/2012 4:58:59 PM PST by yoe
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12 posted on 12/10/2012 5:02:08 PM PST by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: yoe

I’ve been in multiple classes taught by people who were VERY highly placed in the intelligence community and in military intelligence in 2003-2004. No classified discussed, but they talk a lot about their experiences, some off-the-record stuff. None of these people are rabid leftists, Bush-haters, etc.

They’ve all devoted entire classes to how our intelligence was wrong about Iraq having an active CW program in 2003.

We sincerely believed they had a program, as did the Europeans and all the other Arab states - there wasn’t any sort of Bush conspiracy to fabricate a program, though there was subtle-to-not-so-subtle pressure by the administration to get the reporting from the IC that they wanted.

Not a one has given the slightest credence to claims they had an active program/stockpile and it was moved to Syria.

There was indeed a scattering of very old shells, etc. left over from the pre-1991 program. Would have been impossible to find and get rid of them all, even the US turned out to have randomly buried some WWI chemical shells below American University in DC.


13 posted on 12/10/2012 5:18:40 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: raptor22

14 posted on 12/10/2012 5:26:33 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Strategerist
Well, how about 2002 ? Excerpt from article.

An article in the fall 2005 Middle East Quarterly reports that on Israel's Channel 2 on Dec. 23, 2002, Israel's prime minister, Ariel Sharon, stated, "Chemical and biological weapons which Saddam is endeavoring to conceal have been moved from Iraq to Syria."

15 posted on 12/10/2012 5:28:26 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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16 posted on 12/10/2012 5:30:42 PM PST by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: raptor22

Define “whole bunch”. Perhaps Obama’s whole bunch is really, really, really big and perhaps Assad doesn’t actually have a whole bunch.


17 posted on 12/10/2012 5:37:24 PM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: Strategerist

do you think for one moment the Dems would not use this to say” No doubt , in the mystery of what might have happened to the WMD’s maybe, as many have said, they went to Syria and now we see them.”

Your response is accurate, put typically like our conservatives, not politically helpful. We can learn how to play the DEM PR game and STILL be honest, not lying like they do.That was my point.


18 posted on 12/10/2012 5:44:58 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: justa-hairyape

In the summer of 2005 we found a rail terminal in Anbar Provinceth with a well used road going into Syria where Saddams CW were transported. I also witnessed the results of the WMD on the Kurds. Saddam HAD chemical weapons>>>>>


19 posted on 12/10/2012 6:40:16 PM PST by jesseam (eliev)
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20 posted on 12/10/2012 6:47:09 PM PST by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: jesseam

There was no doubt he had some. The UN left a partially damaged building from Gulf War 1 sealed. The seals and WMD were still there after we took Baghdad. Then a couple of months later the seals were gone as was the WMD. The issue always was: Did the UN destroy all of his WMD and why did Saddam’s records claim some were not destroyed. Some how the public was brainwashed into, there was no WMD. So the correct answer apparently was that the WMD Saddam’s own records claimed he possessed must have been the WMD that was transported into Syria just prior to Gulf War 2. In Syria, there has been no month long bombing campaign (Gulf War 1). There has been no shock and awe (Gulf War 2).


21 posted on 12/10/2012 6:59:53 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: MachIV
"I remember in the run up to the Iraq War in 2002/2003, it was reported that Saddam was possibly moving chemical weapons into Syria."

The Bekka region in Syria was said to be the hiding place for the WMD's from Saddam.

22 posted on 12/10/2012 7:03:42 PM PST by hummingbird
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To: Intolerant in NJ
I fear that we will pay a very high price in the future for the inept handling of our national security by the idiots in this regime. We can look forward to years of terrorist attacks using manpads and chemical weapons. The O’hobo regime is making the world more dangerous by the day.
23 posted on 12/10/2012 7:06:36 PM PST by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: raptor22

I wonder how much longer before the “red line” merely encircles the White House fence.


24 posted on 12/11/2012 12:52:36 AM PST by clearcarbon
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