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Iran: We Stole All Secrets From US Drone
ABC ^ | By LEE FERRAN (@leeferran) | Dec. 10, 2012

Posted on 12/11/2012 5:41:17 AM PST by chessplayer

An Iranian military commander claimed Monday that the country has stolen all the secrets held by a high-tech American surveillance drone that crashed in Iran last year, according to Iranian news reports.

"All the intelligence in this drone has been completely decoded and extracted and we know each and every step it has taken," said Brig. Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh, Commander of the Aerospace Division for the elite Islamic Revolutionary Guard, according to an English-language report by Iran's semi-official Fars News Agency.

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1 posted on 12/11/2012 5:41:23 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

If a monkey finds a wrist watch and manages to tear it apart into all the tiny gears and springs, it doesn’t mean he can build another watch or put that one back together.

Now the Chinese or Russians, that’s another story.


2 posted on 12/11/2012 5:45:15 AM PST by 109ACS (If this be Treason, then make the most of it. Patrick Henry, May 1765)
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To: chessplayer

I’ll bet the Media is going to love reporting this story.


3 posted on 12/11/2012 5:46:11 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: chessplayer

Please. A. Either they did and are ridiculously stupid to brag about it, or B. They didn’t and are trying so hard to feel special and scary. I personally believe the latter.


4 posted on 12/11/2012 5:47:14 AM PST by USMCWife6869
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To: chessplayer

rrriiiiiight ...


5 posted on 12/11/2012 5:48:19 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: USMCWife6869

Why don’t these things blow up when they’re captures or tampered with?


6 posted on 12/11/2012 5:49:27 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: nuconvert

thank Obama for another accomplishment. that thing should have been destroyed BEFORE it landed in Iran. Oh wait, we can’t use real bullets over there, we mit hit something.


7 posted on 12/11/2012 5:51:06 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: chessplayer

Oh, that is the one “gifted” to them by thew nobama administration last year. Merry Christmas!


8 posted on 12/11/2012 5:51:52 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hal ogen

Or, we let Iran shoot it down to get its secrets. Problem is all the secrets of it are fake.


9 posted on 12/11/2012 5:54:07 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (You cant bring something to its knees that refuses to stand on its own)
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To: chessplayer

Obama’s “leeway” to the Russians


10 posted on 12/11/2012 5:56:55 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: chessplayer

What lieing pieces of excrement these Iranian’s are.They didn’t steal anything.That was a gift from resident obama.They were meant to get it.


11 posted on 12/11/2012 5:57:35 AM PST by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: USMCWife6869
I personally believe the latter.

I do not think I would underestimate them any longer. They were able to bring the thing down for starters.
12 posted on 12/11/2012 5:58:31 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: chessplayer

Who controls these drones - The State Department, the Air Force, the Army, the CIA? Who lost control of this drone? Why was it not recovered nor destroyed?


13 posted on 12/11/2012 5:59:23 AM PST by Ken522
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To: chessplayer

Even after O begged them to give it back!!!


14 posted on 12/11/2012 6:08:11 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: chessplayer

All they had to do was ask barry. That’s what he’s there for.


15 posted on 12/11/2012 6:11:57 AM PST by crosshairs (Too many things to say. Not enough room.)
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To: chessplayer

This story has cracks. The drone was a gift from Obama. No need to decode anything.


16 posted on 12/11/2012 6:15:30 AM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: chessplayer

All your base are belong to us.


17 posted on 12/11/2012 6:33:15 AM PST by Imnidiot (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
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To: chessplayer

What? Zero’s real B.C. Was on the drone?


18 posted on 12/11/2012 6:55:13 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: 109ACS

Its foolish to think Iran doesn’t have high level scientists and engineers.
The laws of physics applied in the US are also equally applied in Iran.


19 posted on 12/11/2012 6:56:40 AM PST by Morris70
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To: USMCWife6869

In another news story on this it mentioned that the iranians had released some of the data they were able to extract
proving they did extract it

I guess it is possible that as noather freeper in this thread suggested, any date in it was fake

if so WHY did the DOD plead with 0dumbo to destroy the Drone?


20 posted on 12/11/2012 7:18:32 AM PST by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: USMCWife6869

C. Obama sent them the instructions.

D. Obama sent them a couple dozen ready to fly.


21 posted on 12/11/2012 7:22:55 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: chessplayer
Did the info state to look to the right or the left for a mushroom shaped cloud???
22 posted on 12/11/2012 7:53:49 AM PST by bikerman (What ever happens from now is all OBAMA's fault. Obama lied,economy died)
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To: chessplayer

This sounds like a great way to pass along false information or to introduce a virus. Not that the current regime would do anything to harm a sworn enemy


23 posted on 12/11/2012 7:56:08 AM PST by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: Progov

24 posted on 12/11/2012 7:57:04 AM PST by traumer
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To: 109ACS
“Now the Chinese or Russians, that’s another story.”

I would expect the Russians and the Chinese (and French, apparently) to already have the blueprints for this drone...as well as for the machine tools and composite materials fabrication required to build it...oh, and the computer hardware and software as well!

25 posted on 12/11/2012 8:54:04 AM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Morris70
Remember all the people laughing about China buying the Varyag? They also laughed about the refit. Then they laughed at the sea trials. I suppose they're laughing about the successful launches and arrested landings now. They don't understand that China is learning to walk before it runs, and is doing it on the cheap. You can bet their next generation carriers will be markedly different, and as our economic ability to build and field carrier fleets decays, theirs will likely grow, but hey let's laugh at where they are right now while ignoring how far they've come and what they've learned along the way. You see the same knee-jerk scoffing with Iran. It's an unwillingness to face the new realities.

Back in the 80's you could laugh about the "ignorant ME goat-humpers" who could neither effectively use nor maintain modern military gear, and the idea of them producing anything was an even bigger joke. Problem is, we spent the last 30 years selling some of the best engineering education money could buy all around the globe while here at home we pumped out marketing execs, lawyers, and government employees. We're just starting to see the fruits of that in Asia and the ME. I will now sit back and await my anointing as "Chicken Little," but that's my $.02 on the issue of our complacency.
26 posted on 12/11/2012 9:51:14 AM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

The software unravels if tampered with. Nothing but random ones-and-zeros.

They are lying.


27 posted on 12/11/2012 10:22:56 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Morris70

Our software codes are designed to unravel if tampered with. We do that to all our jets and other technology supporting airborne ops over enemy territory.

The code unravels and nothing remains but junk. No matter who you are, you can’t “extract” it, especially the dung-drinking iranians.


28 posted on 12/11/2012 10:27:09 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Why don’t these things blow up when they’re captures or tampered with?

Talked to someone who was a drone operator. Sits at a console out in the SW US desert. He said they had no clue as to how the first drone was brought down. They were never supposed to land like that if control was lost. The Iranians clearly have the capability to take full control of the drone.

29 posted on 12/11/2012 10:28:34 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: chessplayer
An Iranian military commander claimed Monday that the country has stolen all the secrets held by a high-tech American surveillance drone that crashed in Iran last year

In other news, an order for thousands of cases of Ovaltine was reportedly received from the Middle East.

30 posted on 12/11/2012 10:30:50 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: justa-hairyape

“The Iranians clearly have the capability to take full control of the drone.”

Shouldn’t there be a simple software fix for that?


31 posted on 12/11/2012 10:31:42 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Not if you can mimic the US control codes and programming language. Only two possibilities back then. Internal sabotage due to a virus or the Iranians gained control. Since this is the second drone loss, one would assume they should have corrected any internal sabotage issues by now. Take the Iranians for their words during the first drone loss. They made the drone think that landing in Iran was landing back at the drones home base. Perhaps not full control yet, but close. When the drones start firing on our own ships and troops, then the Iranian will have achieved full control.


32 posted on 12/11/2012 10:44:10 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Not exactly.

The first UAV was simple lost link. Enters hold pattern while attempts are made to re-establish link. Then it is to RTB. Thing is, the control signal for that first UAV is encrypted and the dung-drinking Iranians can’t intrude/take over. Think “encrypted Have-Quick” radio signal. So, simple lost link and the UAV simply ran out of gas—and that platform has auto-trim so it pancaked-in, didn’t auger in. It is as a simple as that.

The ScanEagle UAV was under encrypted control as well. ScanEagles are well established and the cause of the loss is TBD.


33 posted on 12/11/2012 11:56:47 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Trod Upon

For over a decade I worked FMS to various ME countries. No matter the gear, and training, they are still third-world camel humpers. No getting around that fact. We could even give them the F-22 and we would still kick their smelly butts. That is a fact. They simple don’t have the culture, initiative or smarts to use the gear.


34 posted on 12/11/2012 12:02:50 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka

So the UAV lost its link they ran out of gas and soft landed in enemy territory. Great programming there guys. According to the person I talked to, think he was a console pilot, that was not supposed to ever happen.


35 posted on 12/11/2012 12:11:31 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
I work with the engineers, not desk clickers. Unless your console “pilot” has access to that particular UAV, then he has no insight on autonomous ops and programing. In fact, since he is a desk pilot, he doesn’t work with autonomous platforms—especially that platform.

Programming worked. There are aspects we aren’t talking about here. Ask your “console pilot,” he should understand why.

36 posted on 12/11/2012 4:10:35 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka

I hope you’re correct and that they generally remain inbred, livestock-ravishing incompetents for decades to come.


37 posted on 12/11/2012 8:22:35 PM PST by Trod Upon (A personal readiness for war is the strongest surety of peace.)
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