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You Think the GOP Has Problems?
American Thinker ^ | December 11, 2012 | Christopher Chantrill

Posted on 12/11/2012 7:19:04 AM PST by NCjim

While everyone gathers around the water cooler Monday-morning quarterbacking Speaker Boehner on the execution of his game plan for the Cliff Bowl before it is even played, let us spare a thought for the hapless Democrats. After all, who would want to be a Democrat as we go into 2013?

Don't be fooled by that tough-guy act.

Yes, yes, we know that the Democrats own the future with the educated, the young, the black, and the Hispanic. And Republicans have just got to learn to speak Hispanic. Even Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan seem to agree.

But my suspicion is that the old song had it right. The new Democratic majority has gone about as far as it can go. You can tell that in the subtext of Democratic policy this holiday season, which seems to be: entitlements today, entitlements tomorrow, entitlements forever.

There is something vaguely familiar about that catchphrase.

Here is how I explain it.

Back in 1989, the Democrats panicked. They had just lost three presidential elections in a row, first to an amiable dunce and finally to a New England blue-blood. How bad can it get?

The new strategy, we can now see, was fiendishly clever. Democrats would feint towards the middle, as in New Democrats, while playing race politics with blacks and Hispanics.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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1 posted on 12/11/2012 7:19:05 AM PST by NCjim
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To: NCjim

Lowering ourselves to employ Democratic tactics isn’t the correct strategy. I personally would not be able to discuss conservative issues with a straight face.


2 posted on 12/11/2012 7:23:58 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: NCjim

Bring back US jobs.


3 posted on 12/11/2012 7:28:11 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: NCjim

While the American Stalinists, the American National Socialists and the American Jihad is marching the herds into the gas chambers, these fleabags are going to sit around explaining how much smarter they are and how the enemy is really losing.


4 posted on 12/11/2012 7:28:17 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: NCjim

It’s a good article, identifying the problems with current Demoncrap strategy. However, the prevailing winds of demographics, and a GOP solution, are not written about.


5 posted on 12/11/2012 7:31:27 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: NCjim

no all the rats care about is power. If they have to break the country with their vote buying scheme, so be it.


6 posted on 12/11/2012 7:43:54 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: NCjim; pookie18
obama explains economy
7 posted on 12/11/2012 7:59:19 AM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: NCjim

Good article.


8 posted on 12/11/2012 8:00:36 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: NCjim
Today, President Obama is proposing that all we need to do going forward is to increase taxes on the rich by about $80 billion per year. In the face of a $1,200-billion deficit per year.

The author is wrong. Obama not only wants to raise the taxes on the "rich" to Clinton-era rates, he also wants to close loopholes, etc. per the Boehner offer. And Obamacare will impose even more taxes on the so-called rich, so it is a double whammy.

Obama has also proposed new spending of $250 billion. In the face of a collapsing welfare state, the Dems will tax more and more to keep it afloat. Next up will be the VAT, the last part of their strategy. And they will sell it by saying that impacts the wealthy more than the middle class.

9 posted on 12/11/2012 8:11:08 AM PST by kabar
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To: NCjim

There is no Dem plan, just a coalition built around passing legislative initiatives. This article is right - they stand for nothing but handouts. Handouts to everyone, mind you: your parents, you if you are unemployed, your healthcare, your infrastructure, etc.

Are we ready to cut our umbilical cords to Big Mamma?


10 posted on 12/11/2012 8:11:47 AM PST by gotribe
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
No, "jobs" is not what is needed. What we need is people taking initiative and working. "Jobs" can be done by robots, and increasingly they are.

I've come across some things recently that point a path to the future:

  1. A new attitude about work: The economy, least of all big business, is not going to fix itself, so individuals will have to take the initiative. I found the following quote inspiring: "... if the only pay that's risen in the last 40 years is CEO pay, then the only sane career choice is CEO." (Giles Bowkett). Start your own company, even if it's a company of one.

  2. A new attitude about learning: The education system, least of all public schools, is not going to fix itself, so individuals have to take the initiative. Seth Godin has some ideas in Stop Stealing Dreams: What is School For?. Then, yesterday, I stumbled on Mark Edward Vande Pol's Knowledge Economy: A Workable Plan to Transform Education. Vande Pol shows that a good education can be had by bootstrapping. Help a kid to a strong basis in -- yes -- reading, writing, and math, and after third grade he can teach himself, gaining more, and more useful, knowledge than a college degree before other kids are out of high school. Including the right knowledge to start a small business.

This will build productive work right here in the U.S.

11 posted on 12/11/2012 8:13:43 AM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: NCjim

The dem coalition is held together by antipathy toward white Christian/traditional America and a government check. That’s it.


12 posted on 12/11/2012 8:15:08 AM PST by kreitzer
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To: NCjim

I think the article misses one thing. It misses the fact that the American voter is no longer capable of any form of rational thought. The Democrats have always had their media cheerleaders but enough Americans remained skeptical enough of government to actually think and reason — as far as their limited thought processes would take them.

Since the Democrats succeeded in taking over the nation’s edumacation system, that rational thought process has been eliminated from the vast majority of the electorate.

Now, faced with the worst economy since the Great Depression the media says things are not only fine, they are getting better everyday. Most voters don’t even question it. They simply nod in agreement and vote for whomever they are told by the media.

Conservatives missed the opportunity to mold the minds of the young. Schools are now a marxist paradise full of the most impressionable among us being taught by the most destructive among us. The nations youth — being shaped into the perfect marxist electorate — has been transformed and now we have generations of useful idiots.


13 posted on 12/11/2012 8:20:53 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: Lazamataz

Which makes me wonder if “conservatives” don’t need to find some alternative to the GOP, or if perhaps, the GOP needs to re-brand itself.


14 posted on 12/11/2012 8:49:17 AM PST by Rich21IE
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To: FerociousRabbit

“I think the article misses one thing. It misses the fact that the American voter is no longer capable of any form of rational thought.”

Possibly true, but last cycle the two parties conspired to insure there was no meaningful choice either. Hard to tell if the electorate is insane when the leadership cadre in both the entrenched parties are so obviously deranged and choices are limited to competing absurdities.


15 posted on 12/11/2012 8:52:28 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Not so "commanding", not so "inevitable".)
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To: NCjim
Yes, yes, we know that the Democrats own the future with the educated...

Had to stop right there. That claim is simply laughable. If the author is saying that the rats own the hand-wringing college professors, then okay.. But if the author honestly believes that the Democrat party base of atheists, abortion enthusiasts, union pinky rings, condom-throwers, Boy Scout haters, Georgetown sluts, Hollywood drunks, America-hating malcontents, minority "victim" classes, and your garden variety hordes of moochers, deadbeats, parasites, and goofballs is an "educated" bunch, then the author needs to get off the PCP.

16 posted on 12/11/2012 8:57:57 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: NCjim
obama voter
17 posted on 12/11/2012 9:20:25 AM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Psalm 144
Possibly true, but last cycle the two parties conspired to insure there was no meaningful choice either.

Nothing more needs to be said. This will not change.

18 posted on 12/11/2012 9:22:14 AM PST by Digger
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To: NCjim

The Dems are on track for a major implosion as soon as the Blacks and Hispanics both realize that they cannot BOTH be the A#1 Most Favored Minority.


19 posted on 12/11/2012 9:26:44 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: NCjim

Many people vote for the Democrats out of fear. We have to start belittling cowards. I had three people yesterday write me that cowardice is OK. People who use illegal drugs to escape reality are cowards, and cowards vote Democrat. You want to reduce the number of people voting Democrat? Belittle the cowardice of illegal drug use.
Get the government of the United States out of the way of business for ten years. Let our natural competitive advantages be put to use. The third biggest economy in the world is an island with no natural resources. China is burdened with a huge population of peasants and little natural competitive advantage. Our problem isn’t our national competitors, it’s our own government and the old lady mentality that controls it. That’s why you have the Germans cheering for Obama. The Germans are competitive. They know the Democrats will hurt our competitiveness which will help them. They don’t like Obama. They like the wreck he makes of our competitiveness.


20 posted on 12/11/2012 10:25:40 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Carry_Okie
I referenced your work here, and I didn't even know you were a familiar Freeper. I love Knowledge Economy.
21 posted on 12/11/2012 3:58:07 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: Rich21IE
the GOP needs to re-brand itself.

Thanks for some logic because a "third party" is absurd--it can't work, and it won't work.

22 posted on 12/11/2012 4:04:55 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: AZLiberty
Thank you. Comments like that mean a lot to me.
23 posted on 12/11/2012 4:26:08 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Well, to understand my suggestion better, I should have added that in order to “rebrand” itself, the GOP or “Republican” party needs to dissolve altogether and a new party, (hopefully Conservative) needs be formed with a new name.

That probably can’t happen because the wealthy Republican elites like the Koch Brothers have invested too much of their capital into the “Republican” brand.


24 posted on 12/12/2012 5:32:05 AM PST by Rich21IE
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To: Rich21IE
So do you want all of us to just magically go "poof" and we're gone and then you'll bring us back again after you select a new name?

Are you going to pick and choose who you allow in your new "conservative" party.

I have a great big dose of reality for you--the Republican party is the conservative party and this talk of creating a new, more perfect party is NEVER going to happen. You have human nature to deal with.

Here is another dose of reality for those who believe they are more pure than others, the only choice you have is to stay in the existing Republican party and strengthen it.

If you can get a viable movement to go along with renaming the existing Republican party, I don't care but in the end, you still NEED the exact same people.

We have too many unrealistic people here on FR.

25 posted on 12/12/2012 5:38:11 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Rich21IE

I’m glad the wealthy Koch Bros. are there to help counteract people like Soros.


26 posted on 12/12/2012 5:41:55 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Carry_Okie
As a technical point in Knowledge Economy, I particularly liked the idea of teaching algebra before arithmetic. One way to do this is to have kids learn to program, as Seymour Papert did with Logo.

There's a huge opportunity to leverage powerful, innate capabilities of the human mind at an early age. Kids learn a language -- what you would think would be a very difficult task -- at a very early age. I've just been "reading" (actually listening to the audio book) Steven Pinker's The Language Instinct: How the Mind Creates Language. This is an excellent popularization of linguistics work (initiated by Chomsky) that shows that the human mind has powerful, built-in capabilities for language, including complex structures for verbs (including subject, object, and other key modifiers) and other parts of language.

These innate capabilities can just as easily be used to learn programming languages (e.g., Logo, but especially object-oriented languages) and mathematical languages (e.g., algebra). Algebra then forms a framework for arithmetic, making that easier to learn.

If schools were actually about learning, they would be thinking about these things. Instead, schools are about creating interchangeable drones who are easy to manage.

27 posted on 12/12/2012 12:06:33 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: AZLiberty
I particularly liked the idea of teaching algebra before arithmetic.

I'm not big on the software approach. It's too busy and builds an ADD kid if you aren't careful. Moreover, it teaches them to trust what comes from the screen, and I"m not sure that's a good idea until later, once they start to get that there are liars in the world and what that means to them. Besides, when it comes to teaching a toddler, I prefer things that are really concrete.

The way I did it starts as simple as grouping objects with your hands on a piece of butcher paper on each side of a dividing line, cupping the groups like parentheses. Once you have too many groups and confusion sets in, draw the parentheses on the paper and the kid experiences the relief of organizing symbols, thus finding them attractive. Set it up again the next day, replacing the line with an equals sign. Then starts switching the groups from side to side into each parenthetical set, noting commutativity. Then add empty parentheses, and start putting some of the pieces inside, noting distributive and associative operations, counting each time to show that they are still the same on each side of the line. Etc.

At first, addition and subtraction are all I do. Then I stack the equations vertically and start to add them (yep, matrices at three years old). That's how I introduce multiplication. Take them outside and show them a dandelion. That makes it real.

A three year old can get it. Subtle, ain't it?

28 posted on 12/12/2012 5:19:03 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: GladesGuru

You’d like the above post.


29 posted on 12/12/2012 5:20:37 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Are you familiar with the Tufts Early Algebra project?
30 posted on 12/13/2012 3:20:54 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: Carry_Okie
What do you think of Cuisinaire rods?
31 posted on 12/13/2012 3:31:06 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: AZLiberty
And this: Bringing Out the Algebraic Character of Arithmetic: From Children's Ideas to Classroom Practice.
32 posted on 12/13/2012 4:09:05 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: AZLiberty
No. I'm not a professional educator. What I wrote above I would do with a three year old, but realize, I was teaching abstract ideas with shapes before they were six months old. Our older daughter was telling us which words began with which letters (and not the usual rote associations) before she was two. Yes, they are bright, but I really think that the teaching had a powerful effect upon how they perceived. Hell, I was singing to them and patting rhythms on mommy's tummy before they were born.

I'm just that way. :-)

33 posted on 12/13/2012 4:29:08 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: NCjim
It's hard to tell just what's the strategy and what's just the stuff Democrats or liberals do. Or rather, what's the Democratic Party's strategy and what's the strategies of the various interest groups that make up the liberal bloc.

I guess, Democrats did "put the mark of Cain" on the religious right after Reagan and did "demonize" Pat Buchanan, but that was also at a time when Clinton was trying to downplay social issues and win over voters who weren't exactly "social liberals."

To see the politics of those days as more racial than the politics of other times also doesn't seem accurate to me. Clinton painted Bush as the new Hoover, and minority groups that voted Democrat went along with that. There wasn't much need for special racially-based efforts in 1992 or 1996, when the trend was against Bush or Dole across the board.

The author's right that the Democrats' policies will trip them up sooner or later. That's clear. It's not so clear that the Republicans are in much better shape.

34 posted on 12/13/2012 5:04:27 PM PST by x
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To: Carry_Okie

We did similar things with our kids. We talked to them in adult language from day one — how else are they going to learn it? — while a friend was still talking baby talk to her kids when they were pre-teens. An aunt was amazed at how we talked to our 3-month-old daughter. She told me that she didn’t talk to her kids when they were infants. She figured they couldn’t understand anything, so why bother?

Many parents and many teachers are clueless about how to actually get kids to learn anything — partly because this current education system is several generations old. With each generation, teachers and kids and parents just get dumber.


35 posted on 12/13/2012 9:18:23 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: AZLiberty
With each generation, teachers and kids and parents just get dumber.

When public school teachers complain to me, "It's the parents," the first thing out of my mouth is, "Who educated them?" Stops 'em every time.

36 posted on 12/13/2012 9:21:17 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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