Posted on 12/11/2012 9:48:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Conservative firebrand Glenn Beck has joined a growing chorus of Republican commentators in defending gay marriage, laying out a strong case for ending government opposition to letting same-sex couples wed.
"Let me take the pro-gay marriage people and the religious people — I believe that there is a connecting dot there that nobody is looking at, and that's the Constitution," Beck said during a recent segment of his online talk show. "The question is not whether gay people should be married or not. The question is why is the government involved in our marriage?"
While Beck's defense of gay marriage may seem surprising, given his far-right political views and audience, it is actually not new. Earlier this year, Beck said that he has the "same opinion on gay marriage as President Barack Obama" and does not see same-sex unions as a "threat to America."
Still, Beck's public renewal of his support for gay marriage comes at a politically significant moment for the GOP, which is working to reshape its message to appeal to a changing electorate. A Gallup survey released last week found that 53 percent of Americans are in favor of legalizing gay marriage, a number that has been steadily growing for the past decade.
Moreover, by couching his support for gay marriage in a libertarian framework, Beck makes the case for the right to look past differences on social issues in order to broaden their coalition to include all limited government conservatives.
"What we need to do, I think, as people who believe in the Constitution, is to start looking for allies who believe in the Constitution and expand our own horizon," Beck said. "We would have the ultimate big tent."
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Does this qualify as Mormon Relativism?
How can he possibly be considered a conservative?
The problem with Gay Marriage is that a judge in MA ruled that since it is now legal in MA that ALL parental notifications laws were vacated by it. Giving Gay Activists unfettered access to other people’s children.
“The question is why is the government involved in our marriage?”
Beck’s gilded, hermaphroditic angel of light blows a REALLY big trumpet.
this must be a whisper campaign to condition the rubes.
just wait for the youngsters to have their own kids. When their precious little liberals announce their deviancies, how many will write off their those useless offspring?
The statement by Beck is evidence that he has a slightly disordered mind because he supports the contention that men and women are 100% interchangeable. The Constitution cannot change biological facts or natural law.
I personally do not believe that men and women are interchangeable. Men living with men are friends. Women living with women are friends. The Constitution gives all and each and every one of us the same rights.
I’m wondering the same thing. A local radio station in my area that carried his show tanked and has went all Christmas music. Guess I won’t be missing his show anymore if this is true.
Never trust a guy who wears sneakers with a suit.
the solution is simple. Any deviant that comes out is shunned.
So, shall he next announce support for incest? Ya know, in the name of being hip and foreward-thinking.
Oh, my gosh. Are you kidding me? Et tu, Beck?
What part of this S-I-N do you want us to accept?
I will not bow my knee to the god of pop culture!
I’m done with him. As I wrote recently, I hate Libertarians more than any other group, they are the snake in the Conservative bosom and must be cast out.
“”We would have the ultimate big tent.”
Here’s the problem: just like inviting people for a party, I don’t want to invite the entire block. I pick and choose whom I want as company.
And I don’t want fudgepackers at my party.
I think it is a way to back door American chicken ranches. So to speak.
Hey, why not support gay marriage? Why shouldn’t they have the right to suffer the same marital problems as the rest of us??
Besides, divorce lawyers need a new revenue stream!
Glenn Beck caves in to the rainbow nazi crowd. Way to go, letting a small fragment of society lead everyone else around by the nose.
Do you have more information on this? I did a basic search and couldn't find anything that led me to more information. Sad, if true.
Beck appears to have joined those who have lost the concept of language. Government did not create or define marriage - it has no right to redefine it and disregard language by force of law. Two people of the same sex cannot be husband and wife - it has nothing to do with “bigotry” or “discrimination” - it is simply reality.
I disagree with Beck’s position.
But I don’t think he is actually defending gay “marriage”. He is adopting a neutral position.
Beck’s position ignores human nature, changes centuries of natural law for the benefit of a very small subset of 2% of the population and presents very difficult concerns for adoption.
But it is not support of gay “marriage”
Who ever thought Beck, a Mormon, knew or obeyed the things of God?
Same sex marriage is satan’s idea of marriage and Beck agrees with that.
The LDS church will permit gay marriage within 20 years. With their polygamous history, they’ve already scrapped the one man/one woman original design.
Get government out of the marriage business and you can tell the sodomites and liberals to go piss up a rope.
Until then, they will use government to over-right your Religions tenets, starting with marriage.
For those of you who are slow of thought, that is what Glenn was say. Nothing more. Nothing less...
Supporting gay marriage doesn’t take government out of the equation. It uses government to force the rest of us to recognize something we don’t recognize.
It isn’t a limitation on the power of government; it is an further intrusion of the power of government into an area where it has not previously intruded, to overturn a moral tradition of thousands of years of standing.
What if their church or religion says they can?
Exactly.
Their religion can say that a cat is an eagle but doesn't mean the cat will be able to fly. Reality is reality.
No, the question is why do you consider yourself a conservative.
You just lost me, Glenn ... for good unless you repent.
RE: Get government out of the marriage business and you can tell the sodomites and liberals to go piss up a rope.
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That implies that all tax deductions for those who are “married” are out the window.
How about immigration? Should government recognize an immigrant’s spouse if he/she were to be given a green card?
My point is this — IN PRACTICE, how do you get government OUT of marriage when they DO have to recognize certain unions in their day to day operations?
I wonder how Beck’s fangirls will defend this. Will we be called “haters” because we don’t agree with this idiot?
In America we all knew what marriage was until Mormonism came along, then by 1862 the federal government had to step in to stop polygamy.
Today Mormonism, Islam, any cult, any homosexual church or new religion, can define it for themselves, if there is no common definition.
Since marriage has to be recognized from state to state, there has to be some agreed on definitions.
Government seems to be involved in marriage already, since they are trying to force priests and pastors to perform marriages, and they are passing laws that say, in effect, “you vill do this, und you vill like it!”
Tonight I CANCEL my Subscription the “The Blaze”. NO MORE BECK FOR ME EVER!
Quite a chasm of difference between not wanting government involved in marriage at all and supporting gay marriage. But then that's totally lost on all you "conservatives" isn't it.
You know. Conservatives being the people oppposed to oppressive govt. Or are you just opposed to the liberal's idea of oppressive govt?
He's not really proposing this. He's just making noises which ultimately boil down to: sanity must yield to insanity -- and then, oh, by the way, law, medicine and education will be bent to the agenda, dissenters will be hounded, marginalized and prosecuted, social organizations and human services will be queered, church-related institutions will be beaten down to the ground, out Kindergartners will be forbidden to assume that Family Day means Moms and Dads, and our 5th graders will be memorizing the key principles of dildo hygiene and safe sodomy.
"Other than that, of course, it doesn't affect a thing."
My respect for Glenn Beck just sank to a new low: not because he's wicked, but because he's stupid.
I never cared for beck,always thought he was a phony conservative and this proves it to me.He just cares about the money.Too many so called conservatives are nothing but rinos.
There is this thing called “family law”. It deals with issues of child custody, tutorship, financial and social responsibilities and so on. So that dependent children and sometimes spouses are cared for, healthy and hopefully not utterly ignorant. Every civilization has family law, and every government deals with it, either well or poorly. Not dealing with it at all is an example of dealing with it poorly.
For those of you who are slow of thought.
That wasn’t my question, was it?
I’m conservative on some issues and not on other issues.
“My respect for Glenn Beck just sank to a new low: not because he’s wicked, but because he’s stupid.”
My take is the other way around, but we can agree he is in the wrong.
Don't start complaining now that they are wielding that power in a way that is detrimental to us all...
They never should have had that power to begin with.
We all know what follows "Gay Marriage"
Polygamy.
The Mormon cult has an agenda, and a plan for the future, did everyone think that they suddenly quit being a cult somehow, or for some reason
“...and does not see same-sex unions as a “threat to America.”
Unlike Flapp Jackson, I think it is a threat. Flapp is delusional on this one.
But it seems to me with state involved, at least in the modern era, the definition it uses to recognize the institution is simply whatever judges, pols, or the majority thinks it is at any one time. Thast’s it, that’s all it will ever be. The definition the state uses can coincide with actual marriage, or it can include impossibilities like ‘gay marriage’ everytime a judge, pol, or the majority decide it should. It was always a danger, Pope Leo XIII warned about the state’s power over the institution 130 years ago.
The only way the homosexualists can punish those who won’t buy into their ‘gay marriage’ nonsense is if the state is involved.
Freegards
“I wonder how Beck’s fangirls will defend this. Will we be called “haters” because we don’t agree with this idiot?”
Yes.
Beck has jumped the shark. Pity is, he didn’t have to. dummy
Glenn is a libertarian. He is not a conservative republican.
Most people around here don’t support him because he is a Mormon.
Doesn’t matter though, gay marriage is coming, that’s all. The GOP has failed to make the case against it just as it has failed to make the case against everything else it supposedly believes in.
So either we find a way to use it to our advantage, or we don’t. I expect we don’t.
I don’t support it either. Marriage is between a man and a woman for the purpose of making families and strong family units, nothing else. Personally, I think the gays will not be satisfied with their own right to marry. I expect that they will see that only they have the right, and heterosexual marriages will be frowned upon then banned. Watch.
This is the way this world is going, and this issue will be used by the enemy to further divide the right, and the right will use this issue to further divide itself, and the left will win.
The beat goes on....
I disagree that all he cares about is money.
He is a very clever and gifted provocateur and manipulator.
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