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Glenn Beck Defends Gay Marriage: Republicans Need To 'Expand Our Own Horizon'
Business Insider ^ | 12/11/2012 | Grace Wyler

Posted on 12/11/2012 9:48:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 12/11/2012 9:48:37 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Does this qualify as Mormon Relativism?


2 posted on 12/11/2012 9:53:52 AM PST by OldGoatCPO
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To: SeekAndFind

How can he possibly be considered a conservative?


3 posted on 12/11/2012 9:53:52 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: SeekAndFind

The problem with Gay Marriage is that a judge in MA ruled that since it is now legal in MA that ALL parental notifications laws were vacated by it. Giving Gay Activists unfettered access to other people’s children.


4 posted on 12/11/2012 9:55:07 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The question is why is the government involved in our marriage?”

Beck’s gilded, hermaphroditic angel of light blows a REALLY big trumpet.


5 posted on 12/11/2012 9:55:33 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Not so "commanding", not so "inevitable".)
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To: SeekAndFind
Alienate our base to pander to 2%.
6 posted on 12/11/2012 9:56:07 AM PST by EEGator
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To: stuartcr

this must be a whisper campaign to condition the rubes.

just wait for the youngsters to have their own kids. When their precious little liberals announce their deviancies, how many will write off their those useless offspring?


7 posted on 12/11/2012 9:56:47 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SeekAndFind
"What we need to do, I think, as people who believe in the Constitution, is to start looking for allies who believe in the Constitution and expand our own horizon," Beck said. "We would have the ultimate big tent."

The statement by Beck is evidence that he has a slightly disordered mind because he supports the contention that men and women are 100% interchangeable. The Constitution cannot change biological facts or natural law.

I personally do not believe that men and women are interchangeable. Men living with men are friends. Women living with women are friends. The Constitution gives all and each and every one of us the same rights.

8 posted on 12/11/2012 9:57:24 AM PST by olezip
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To: stuartcr

I’m wondering the same thing. A local radio station in my area that carried his show tanked and has went all Christmas music. Guess I won’t be missing his show anymore if this is true.


9 posted on 12/11/2012 9:58:12 AM PST by MachIV
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To: SeekAndFind

Never trust a guy who wears sneakers with a suit.


10 posted on 12/11/2012 9:58:40 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: olezip

the solution is simple. Any deviant that comes out is shunned.


11 posted on 12/11/2012 9:59:20 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SeekAndFind

So, shall he next announce support for incest? Ya know, in the name of being hip and foreward-thinking.


12 posted on 12/11/2012 9:59:44 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh, my gosh. Are you kidding me? Et tu, Beck?

What part of this S-I-N do you want us to accept?

I will not bow my knee to the god of pop culture!


13 posted on 12/11/2012 10:00:31 AM PST by Obadiah (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m done with him. As I wrote recently, I hate Libertarians more than any other group, they are the snake in the Conservative bosom and must be cast out.


14 posted on 12/11/2012 10:00:42 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: massgopguy

“”We would have the ultimate big tent.”

Here’s the problem: just like inviting people for a party, I don’t want to invite the entire block. I pick and choose whom I want as company.

And I don’t want fudgepackers at my party.


15 posted on 12/11/2012 10:01:11 AM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: OldGoatCPO

I think it is a way to back door American chicken ranches. So to speak.


16 posted on 12/11/2012 10:01:47 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Not so "commanding", not so "inevitable".)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey, why not support gay marriage? Why shouldn’t they have the right to suffer the same marital problems as the rest of us??

Besides, divorce lawyers need a new revenue stream!


17 posted on 12/11/2012 10:01:50 AM PST by ssaftler (I'm a "Mad Men" kinda guy living in a "Modern Family" world.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Glenn Beck caves in to the rainbow nazi crowd. Way to go, letting a small fragment of society lead everyone else around by the nose.


18 posted on 12/11/2012 10:02:08 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: massgopguy
The problem with Gay Marriage is that a judge in MA ruled that since it is now legal in MA that ALL parental notifications laws were vacated by it. Giving Gay Activists unfettered access to other people’s children.

Do you have more information on this? I did a basic search and couldn't find anything that led me to more information. Sad, if true.

19 posted on 12/11/2012 10:02:53 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: SeekAndFind

Beck appears to have joined those who have lost the concept of language. Government did not create or define marriage - it has no right to redefine it and disregard language by force of law. Two people of the same sex cannot be husband and wife - it has nothing to do with “bigotry” or “discrimination” - it is simply reality.


20 posted on 12/11/2012 10:02:53 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: SeekAndFind

I disagree with Beck’s position.

But I don’t think he is actually defending gay “marriage”. He is adopting a neutral position.

Beck’s position ignores human nature, changes centuries of natural law for the benefit of a very small subset of 2% of the population and presents very difficult concerns for adoption.

But it is not support of gay “marriage”


21 posted on 12/11/2012 10:03:54 AM PST by kidd
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To: SeekAndFind

Who ever thought Beck, a Mormon, knew or obeyed the things of God?

Same sex marriage is satan’s idea of marriage and Beck agrees with that.


22 posted on 12/11/2012 10:03:54 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: SeekAndFind

The LDS church will permit gay marriage within 20 years. With their polygamous history, they’ve already scrapped the one man/one woman original design.


23 posted on 12/11/2012 10:05:48 AM PST by lurk
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To: SeekAndFind
This is what you get when you try and get your government to interfere with what your God has ordained.

Get government out of the marriage business and you can tell the sodomites and liberals to go piss up a rope.

Until then, they will use government to over-right your Religions tenets, starting with marriage.

For those of you who are slow of thought, that is what Glenn was say. Nothing more. Nothing less...

24 posted on 12/11/2012 10:06:51 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Supporting gay marriage doesn’t take government out of the equation. It uses government to force the rest of us to recognize something we don’t recognize.

It isn’t a limitation on the power of government; it is an further intrusion of the power of government into an area where it has not previously intruded, to overturn a moral tradition of thousands of years of standing.


25 posted on 12/11/2012 10:08:47 AM PST by marron
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To: Republican Wildcat
Two people of the same sex cannot be husband and wife - it has nothing to do with “bigotry” or “discrimination” - it is simply reality.

What if their church or religion says they can?

26 posted on 12/11/2012 10:08:56 AM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Two people of the same sex cannot be husband and wife - it has nothing to do with “bigotry” or “discrimination” - it is simply reality.

Exactly.

27 posted on 12/11/2012 10:09:52 AM PST by marron
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To: ansel12
"What if their church or religion says they can?"

Their religion can say that a cat is an eagle but doesn't mean the cat will be able to fly. Reality is reality.

28 posted on 12/11/2012 10:11:05 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Dead Corpse
Get government out of the marriage business and you can tell the sodomites and liberals to go piss up a rope.

If only it were that simple. I rather think that the activist homosexuals would continue to attempt to compel/coerce everyone to bend to their will.
29 posted on 12/11/2012 10:11:12 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: stuartcr
The question is why is the government involved in our marriage?"

No, the question is why do you consider yourself a conservative.

30 posted on 12/11/2012 10:11:22 AM PST by SwankyC
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To: SeekAndFind

You just lost me, Glenn ... for good unless you repent.


31 posted on 12/11/2012 10:11:43 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Dead Corpse

RE: Get government out of the marriage business and you can tell the sodomites and liberals to go piss up a rope.

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That implies that all tax deductions for those who are “married” are out the window.

How about immigration? Should government recognize an immigrant’s spouse if he/she were to be given a green card?

My point is this — IN PRACTICE, how do you get government OUT of marriage when they DO have to recognize certain unions in their day to day operations?


32 posted on 12/11/2012 10:12:44 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder how Beck’s fangirls will defend this. Will we be called “haters” because we don’t agree with this idiot?


33 posted on 12/11/2012 10:12:59 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: marron

In America we all knew what marriage was until Mormonism came along, then by 1862 the federal government had to step in to stop polygamy.

Today Mormonism, Islam, any cult, any homosexual church or new religion, can define it for themselves, if there is no common definition.

Since marriage has to be recognized from state to state, there has to be some agreed on definitions.


34 posted on 12/11/2012 10:13:23 AM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: Psalm 144

Government seems to be involved in marriage already, since they are trying to force priests and pastors to perform marriages, and they are passing laws that say, in effect, “you vill do this, und you vill like it!”


35 posted on 12/11/2012 10:14:01 AM PST by MondoQueen
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To: SeekAndFind

Tonight I CANCEL my Subscription the “The Blaze”. NO MORE BECK FOR ME EVER!


36 posted on 12/11/2012 10:15:36 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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Who ever thought Beck, a Mormon, knew or obeyed the things of God? Same sex marriage is satan’s idea of marriage and Beck agrees with that.

Quite a chasm of difference between not wanting government involved in marriage at all and supporting gay marriage. But then that's totally lost on all you "conservatives" isn't it.

You know. Conservatives being the people oppposed to oppressive govt. Or are you just opposed to the liberal's idea of oppressive govt?

37 posted on 12/11/2012 10:15:59 AM PST by SwankyC
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To: SeekAndFind
He doesn't get it. If he wants the govt. to get completely out of regulating marriage, he'd have to change 10,000 laws and regs in 50 states and eliminate all marriage-based benefits, including those related to taxation, property, insurance, survivors' rights of all kinds, liability for debts, custody of/responsibility to children, etc.

He's not really proposing this. He's just making noises which ultimately boil down to: sanity must yield to insanity -- and then, oh, by the way, law, medicine and education will be bent to the agenda, dissenters will be hounded, marginalized and prosecuted, social organizations and human services will be queered, church-related institutions will be beaten down to the ground, out Kindergartners will be forbidden to assume that Family Day means Moms and Dads, and our 5th graders will be memorizing the key principles of dildo hygiene and safe sodomy.

"Other than that, of course, it doesn't affect a thing."

My respect for Glenn Beck just sank to a new low: not because he's wicked, but because he's stupid.

38 posted on 12/11/2012 10:16:05 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: SeekAndFind

I never cared for beck,always thought he was a phony conservative and this proves it to me.He just cares about the money.Too many so called conservatives are nothing but rinos.


39 posted on 12/11/2012 10:16:12 AM PST by ohiobushman (Only in N.Y.C can u buy beer by the case,liquor by the gallon,but be a criminal buying a soda!)
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To: Dead Corpse

There is this thing called “family law”. It deals with issues of child custody, tutorship, financial and social responsibilities and so on. So that dependent children and sometimes spouses are cared for, healthy and hopefully not utterly ignorant. Every civilization has family law, and every government deals with it, either well or poorly. Not dealing with it at all is an example of dealing with it poorly.

For those of you who are slow of thought.


40 posted on 12/11/2012 10:16:22 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Not so "commanding", not so "inevitable".)
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To: SwankyC

That wasn’t my question, was it?

I’m conservative on some issues and not on other issues.


41 posted on 12/11/2012 10:16:33 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Colofornian; Elsie; svcw; Zakeet; Tennessee Nana; aMorePerfectUnion; Godzilla; fishtank; metmom; ..
No surprise here...Glenn is just following the dictates of his mormon masters.

Mormon church wants more compassion for gays

42 posted on 12/11/2012 10:16:51 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Ann Romney "ascending to the White House was their destiny."http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“My respect for Glenn Beck just sank to a new low: not because he’s wicked, but because he’s stupid.”

My take is the other way around, but we can agree he is in the wrong.


43 posted on 12/11/2012 10:17:27 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Not so "commanding", not so "inevitable".)
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To: Psalm 144
Well... The Liberals are now in control. Control you gave them in your "family law".

Don't start complaining now that they are wielding that power in a way that is detrimental to us all...

They never should have had that power to begin with.

44 posted on 12/11/2012 10:18:55 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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Glenn Beck is a Mormon

We all know what follows "Gay Marriage"

Polygamy.

The Mormon cult has an agenda, and a plan for the future, did everyone think that they suddenly quit being a cult somehow, or for some reason

45 posted on 12/11/2012 10:19:01 AM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: SeekAndFind

“...and does not see same-sex unions as a “threat to America.”

Unlike Flapp Jackson, I think it is a threat. Flapp is delusional on this one.

But it seems to me with state involved, at least in the modern era, the definition it uses to recognize the institution is simply whatever judges, pols, or the majority thinks it is at any one time. Thast’s it, that’s all it will ever be. The definition the state uses can coincide with actual marriage, or it can include impossibilities like ‘gay marriage’ everytime a judge, pol, or the majority decide it should. It was always a danger, Pope Leo XIII warned about the state’s power over the institution 130 years ago.

The only way the homosexualists can punish those who won’t buy into their ‘gay marriage’ nonsense is if the state is involved.

Freegards


46 posted on 12/11/2012 10:19:39 AM PST by Ransomed
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“I wonder how Beck’s fangirls will defend this. Will we be called “haters” because we don’t agree with this idiot?”

Yes.


47 posted on 12/11/2012 10:19:48 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Not so "commanding", not so "inevitable".)
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To: olezip

Beck has jumped the shark. Pity is, he didn’t have to. dummy


48 posted on 12/11/2012 10:20:27 AM PST by madison10
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To: SeekAndFind

Glenn is a libertarian. He is not a conservative republican.

Most people around here don’t support him because he is a Mormon.

Doesn’t matter though, gay marriage is coming, that’s all. The GOP has failed to make the case against it just as it has failed to make the case against everything else it supposedly believes in.

So either we find a way to use it to our advantage, or we don’t. I expect we don’t.

I don’t support it either. Marriage is between a man and a woman for the purpose of making families and strong family units, nothing else. Personally, I think the gays will not be satisfied with their own right to marry. I expect that they will see that only they have the right, and heterosexual marriages will be frowned upon then banned. Watch.

This is the way this world is going, and this issue will be used by the enemy to further divide the right, and the right will use this issue to further divide itself, and the left will win.

The beat goes on....


49 posted on 12/11/2012 10:22:06 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: ohiobushman

I disagree that all he cares about is money.

He is a very clever and gifted provocateur and manipulator.


50 posted on 12/11/2012 10:23:17 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Not so "commanding", not so "inevitable".)
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