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UT Professor: Black (& Latino) Students Failing Because They Are Raised by Poor Single Women
London Daily Mail ^ | 08:09 EST, 11 December 2012

Posted on 12/11/2012 11:04:06 AM PST by drewh

A professor at the University of Texas has sparked outrage by claiming black and Hispanic students are failing academically because they have been raised in single parent homes usually by females.

Law professor Lino Graglia was talking to the BBC when he said he could 'hardly imagine a less beneficial or more deleterious experience than to be raised by a single parent, usually female, uneducated and without a lot of money.'

He said the average black performance on SAT test is 200 points lower than that for the average white student and that among the black population almost three quarters of children are now born outside of marriage.

How well do these kids do in maths and reading is basically it and they do less well.

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'And race or segregation or history wouldn't matter one bit if that was not the case.

'No doubt the race and segregation may have a lot to do why that's the case, but it is the case and what to do about it now?

'And admitting them into selective schools with large gaps in qualification is not the answer.'

Graglia is no stranger to controversy and was accused of racism in 1997 after telling a conservative student group that black and Mexican-American cultures 'set children up for failure'.

He said: 'They have a culture that seems not to encourage achievement.

'Failure is not looked upon with disgrace.'

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1 posted on 12/11/2012 11:04:13 AM PST by drewh
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To: drewh

Killing the messenger in 3...2...1...


2 posted on 12/11/2012 11:06:56 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: drewh
He could say the same thing about generations of poor whites living here in the Ozarks.
3 posted on 12/11/2012 11:06:59 AM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: drewh

Offendedness trumps truth in this crazy nutty country.


4 posted on 12/11/2012 11:07:14 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: fungoking

yes - we live in a rural poor area.
I see alot of what this article describes, but 99% here are white


5 posted on 12/11/2012 11:09:46 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: drewh

the truth hurts.


6 posted on 12/11/2012 11:10:19 AM PST by bravo whiskey
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To: fungoking

A study comparing black male students from two-parent upper middle class families in the black bourgeois bastion of Prince George’s Co to white male students from poor families in West Virginia showed that the black male students had lower scores, higher drop-out rates and higher crime rates than the poorer white males.


7 posted on 12/11/2012 11:10:48 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Scotswife

Can those poor whites use affirmative action laws and policies?
Do they get extra weight added to their applications because they are white?


8 posted on 12/11/2012 11:13:18 AM PST by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I hope this professor has lifetime tenure already!


9 posted on 12/11/2012 11:13:18 AM PST by drewh
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To: drewh

“The truth hurts”


10 posted on 12/11/2012 11:13:50 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Elections do have consequences, young people of America)
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To: mrsmel

It’s all about aspirations.

I can’t imagine what it would be like to be Black in America and have the baggage of the public safety net and everyone telling me I am owed something. How could you overcome that?


11 posted on 12/11/2012 11:15:50 AM PST by gotribe
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To: drewh

What kind of punishment should these missing fathers face . . . ? Kudos to the prof for actually daring to be pro-family.


12 posted on 12/11/2012 11:15:59 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: RWGinger

I’m not familiar with all the ins and outs of where affirmative action pays off - but there are alot people taking advantage of HUD/EBT/disability/unemployment and God knows what else.

I do believe whites get Obamaphones too


13 posted on 12/11/2012 11:19:28 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: drewh
This is nothing new for Lino - one of the nation's most notable conservative law school professors. He's been a fixture at UT Law School since the 1960s. He had to withdraw his nomination by Reagan for the Fifth Circuit because of his writings on desegregation through forced busing.

He's made similar comments for decades.

14 posted on 12/11/2012 11:22:21 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: gotribe

I don’t know. Looking at Zimbabwe, the new South Africa, etc, I’d say it’s not only America, for one thing.


15 posted on 12/11/2012 11:23:47 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: drewh
UT Professor: Black (& Latino) Students Failing Because They Are Raised by Poor Single Women AND PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

Closer to the truth. The kids spend more daylight hours in school than they do with their moms. Guess where those teachers were taught, PROFESSOR?

Sheesh.

16 posted on 12/11/2012 11:26:50 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: drewh
black and Hispanic students are failing academically
Maybe they arent that smart to begin with and had no business being in college . . ?
17 posted on 12/11/2012 11:28:01 AM PST by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: mrsmel
A study comparing black male students from two-parent upper middle class families in the black bourgeois bastion of Prince George’s Co to white male students from poor families in West Virginia showed that the black male students had lower scores, higher drop-out rates and higher crime rates than the poorer white males.

There was a mention in "The Bell Curve" as well, that blacks in the upper 10% of income had lower SAT scores than whites in the bottom 10%.

18 posted on 12/11/2012 11:28:10 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: drewh
The professor is following the standard intellectual ideology that poor black performance on standard tests are due to environmental factors. Nonsense! The ultimate causal factors are neurologically based: low intelligence and poor impulse control.

Neuroscience is the area where people should look for solutions to poor black academic and life performance.

19 posted on 12/11/2012 11:28:17 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: drewh

This is a rare. An academic telling a hard truth. Usually political correctness obscures the truth. Political correctness has become customary in this country with most public discussions. Politically correct speakers are spewing nonsense and if they actually believe what they say, they are dangerous fools.


20 posted on 12/11/2012 11:29:09 AM PST by allendale
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To: drewh

I call it being lazy. Passing a class is all because of individual effort. Sure, others will influence, but ultimately, you must take ownership of your grades. Of course, this fly in the face of more government, so nothing will change for these kids.


21 posted on 12/11/2012 11:32:13 AM PST by ABQHispConservative (Only fake Christians vote or are Democrats.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

What’s interesting is that differences can be mentioned for other physical factors except the brain.


22 posted on 12/11/2012 11:35:24 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: drewh

23 posted on 12/11/2012 11:36:09 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: drewh
He said: 'They have a culture that seems not to encourage achievement.

For years I've heard the derisive term 'acting White" directed toward a minority member achieving some positive distinction, some positive academic success, by 'breaking the cycle'.

24 posted on 12/11/2012 11:36:57 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Wow - my alma mater’s gotten it right twice in a row. Who’d’a thunk?


25 posted on 12/11/2012 11:38:27 AM PST by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: drewh

How about they are failing because stupid people are breeding more stupid children, and being paid to sit on their asses with welfare

The movice IDIOCRACY was a documentary, not a comedy


26 posted on 12/11/2012 11:40:41 AM PST by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: drewh
A professor at the University of Texas has sparked outrage by claiming black and Hispanic students are failing academically because they have been raised in single parent homes usually by females.

 

 

 No Shit Sherlock! Pictures, Images and Photos

What is amusing is looking at the liberal reaction to a fundament truth. It's like turning on the light at night and watching the cockroaches scatter.

27 posted on 12/11/2012 11:41:24 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: fungoking

The ‘culture’ at blame is called liberalism.

In 1968 a book was released by the man who is now President Obama scientific advisor. This book was called ‘The Population Bomb’.

This book set in course the liberal agenda. That agenda is spelled out in a memo called the Jaffe Memo(http://static.infowars.com/2011/12/i/article-images/jaffememo-watersterilants.pdf). One of the goal of the liberal agenda is to weaken the family structure. The idea is that it is this family dynamic that results in children being born, and therefore it must be weakened to lower the population growth.

The side effect is that children who are still born, despite the best effort of those supporting this liberal agenda, are born into a culture that is not conducive to child development.

Read the memo. Look at how much of today’s ‘liberalism’ was defined in 1969!


28 posted on 12/11/2012 11:46:54 AM PST by MMaschin
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To: jagusafr
Wow - my alma mater’s gotten it right twice in a row.

Who are you counting as the first? Professor Mark Regnerus?

29 posted on 12/11/2012 11:47:54 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: drewh

Occasionally, very occasionally, a lib arts type “professor” will demonstrate above average IQ. (And yup, law is most certainly a lib art...’cuz it’s not even remotely connected to something solid like science.)

Kudos, prof.


30 posted on 12/11/2012 11:54:33 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Olog-hai
What kind of punishment should these missing fathers face..?

What do you mean punishment?

The Jesse Jacksons of this world will find a new constitutional right -- the right of every child to have a responsible father in the home. If the government can not supply this, it has the responsibility to provide a lifetime of transfer payments to make up for the deprivation of a basic right.

31 posted on 12/11/2012 11:56:53 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: mrsmel; AEMILIUS PAULUS
What’s interesting is that differences can be mentioned for other physical factors except the brain.

To some extent, you are right. But remember what happened some years back to the sports-handicapping genius in Los Vegas, when he commented on the genetic origins of racial athletic prowess.

The compulsion to believe that everyone is either interchangeable, or potentially equal has a number of roots; but it is of no value to anyone but demagogues & scoundrels. It is also totally absurd. (See Footnote On Absurd Egalitarian Compulsion.)

The breakdown in the Black family structure is a contributor to failure. But so is the compulsive refusal to recognize that there is a vast difference among types of Mankind, in the prevalence of various aptitudes. Again, the denial of reality, helps no one but demagogues & scoundrels.

William Flax

32 posted on 12/11/2012 11:57:14 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Olog-hai

Right, it’s the father’s fault, when women don’t want to get married because that cuts off the government bennies.


33 posted on 12/11/2012 11:57:25 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: drewh

It’s the race hustlers’ liberal welfare cultural thing even more that single parenthood, which is often a result of the ghetto race thug culture. Act “white” (which in reality is not colored white) rather than act stupid, slut, thug zombie (which is multicolered, too.)


34 posted on 12/11/2012 11:58:53 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Scotswife

I was going to say, “fatherlessness” would be the common denominator in student failure, not minority status or ethnicity or “race”.

Now, the correlation between fatherlessness and minority culture is another matter.


35 posted on 12/11/2012 12:00:22 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: drewh

http://psychology.wikia.com/wiki/Race_and_intelligence_(test_data)

That’s racist!

;-)


36 posted on 12/11/2012 12:01:09 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (BOHICA eGOP!)
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To: mrsmel
A study comparing black male students from two-parent upper middle class families in the black bourgeois bastion of Prince George’s Co to white male students from poor families in West Virginia showed that the black male students had lower scores, higher drop-out rates and higher crime rates than the poorer white males.

Can't fight nature. They say (on average) white men can't jump. While that's true, it's also true that (on average) black men can't think. And in an era that prizes thinking skills rather than a strong sword arm, it's clear which group has the advantage.

37 posted on 12/11/2012 12:01:42 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Olog-hai
What kind of punishment should these missing fathers face . . . ?

Shakespeare answered that in Measure for Measure

38 posted on 12/11/2012 12:01:49 PM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: PapaBear3625
There was a mention in "The Bell Curve" as well, that blacks in the upper 10% of income had lower SAT scores than whites in the bottom 10%.

It is obvious to anyone watching professional sports that blacks have a decided edge when it come to muscles. They simply have greater physical strength. No controversy or racism to notice that. Nor should there be any controversy or racism to notice that some races possess greater brains.

39 posted on 12/11/2012 12:02:35 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Boogieman

It is THE GOVERNMENTS FAULT.

I saw an interview with a 17 year old woman in The Buffalo NEws.

They asked her why she had a baby at age 16- her answer? BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO GET AN APARTMENT

She knew from her other welfare freinds that if you had a baby the gfovernment would pay for you to get an apartment and provide food stamps to live on

That is what government ‘benefits’ create


40 posted on 12/11/2012 12:03:48 PM PST by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: Mr. K

Liberals, especially “feel good about myself” sheeperals, need their noses rubbed in that.

They need to be make to admit that the policies they support are HARMFUL, not helpful, and that they are NOT “good people” for supporting them.

However, this is THE reason they support liberal policy - to feel self-righteous.
This is why they won’t ever admit the failing of those policies, because, in effect, it means they are not “good people”, and they can’t handle that.


41 posted on 12/11/2012 12:07:24 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Mr. K
A friend of my was tutoring and mentoring a black girl about 15 years old. Trying to get her grades up so she could graduate from high school. The girl got pregnant just before age 16 and she had the same answer. She wanted her own apartment. That is pitiful!
42 posted on 12/11/2012 12:07:49 PM PST by Ditter
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To: drewh
Really?


43 posted on 12/11/2012 12:10:27 PM PST by servo1969
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To: Ohioan

I haven’t forgotten, I just don’t care anymore. I’m a stay-at-home wife with a retired husband, so until they start jailing us for thoughtcrimes like they do in England, I have nothing to lose. Plus I’m a Christian fundamentalist, the kind that still believes in Biblical separation, so if they don’t get me for being a racist, they’ll get me for for being a homophobe or something.

I look forward to the day when whites as race have their backs utterly against the wall. Either enough of us will be awake to make a stand that matters, or we’ll be extinct. In which case, my petty revenge is that our civilisation goes with us. Look how fast it’s happening in South Africa, and they still have a few whites left.

To think that a few whites was all it took to rule India and put a man on the moon. Those who hate us better be glad that our “altruism gene” has ramped up to suicidal level because if whites-even as a global minority-ever decided to go all Ghenghis Khan, well...


44 posted on 12/11/2012 12:45:17 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: drewh

Children need both parents.

If both parents simply can’t be there, due to death, disability, a divorce they couldn’t stop, or even due to their own incarceration or drug addiction or whatever -

other family needs to step in and do the best they can.

But there is an ideal, and it is ONE committed MOTHER and ONE committed FATHER and human beings do not do as well on any scale without them.


45 posted on 12/11/2012 12:47:04 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Zhang Fei

Or would have, if the lethal combination of our altruism and our elites’ ulterior motives hadn’t gotten the better of our collective average intelligence.


46 posted on 12/11/2012 12:48:35 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Boogieman

“Right, it’s the father’s fault,”

It’s his fault for having sex outside of marriage. Every time we do that, we risk making a baby.

Yes, there is birth control. And every type has a failure rate.


47 posted on 12/11/2012 12:50:19 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: TexasRepublic

Actually, I read somewhere that whites have greater upper body strength. Some weightlifting contest that some guy from Eastern Europe usually wins was one of the evidences.


48 posted on 12/11/2012 12:50:50 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: mrsmel

The disparity goes back hundreds if not thousands of years and has zero to do with America.


49 posted on 12/11/2012 12:54:36 PM PST by X-spurt (Ted Cruz for President of the Republic of Texas)
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To: fungoking; All
He could say the same thing about generations of poor whites living here in the Ozarks.

I totally agree with Dr. Graglia's observation and fungoking's post. Not only should children be raised by man / woman, parents / guardians, but it's arguably just as important for one or both of the parents to have a college education, preferably the parent that stays at the house to raise the kids if such is the case.

50 posted on 12/11/2012 1:13:01 PM PST by Amendment10
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