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Secession petitions: Why Americans don't really want to break up
BBC News ^ | Sunday, December 9, 2012

Posted on 12/11/2012 7:37:52 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

Independence movements are on the march in many Western countries, but the secessionists who have been making news in the US since last month's election are not, realistically, going anywhere. Americans are, in fact, unusually keen to stick together. Why is this?

The USA is a divided country, we're often told, polarised in a cultural civil war between the blue and red bits on its map.

Unlike almost all of their Western counterparts, however, Americans appear remarkably happy to stay together despite their differences.

While separatist parties are thriving in Canada and Europe, recent bids to take individual states out of the union have only served to demonstrate just how little appetite there is for this kind of politics in the US.

A series of petitions has been posted on the White House website calling for each of the 50 states to be allowed to secede.

So far Texas, South Carolina, Georgia, Louisiana, Florida, Missouri, Tennessee, North Carolina, Alabama, Oklahoma and Ohio have all attracted more than 25,000 names apiece - entitling them an official response from the administration.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 12/11/2012 7:37:57 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

I want to break up and I have since Obama was selected. I seriously think we should become two separate countries.


2 posted on 12/11/2012 7:41:35 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: MinorityRepublican
Another factor that may put a brake on centrifugal tendencies in the US is its federal constitution, which allows the 50 states considerable autonomy.

Hahahahahahahahaha, etc.
3 posted on 12/11/2012 7:44:08 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Eastern and Western America?


4 posted on 12/11/2012 7:44:32 PM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

They’re not going to let us go because they need our money.

Poor section of Spain leaves no one cares - they weren’t pulling their weight anyway.


5 posted on 12/11/2012 7:45:00 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: MinorityRepublican; ilovesarah2012

Walter Williams has been calling for a National Divorce for a while now.

Nothing too messy. But its clear the U.S. cannot continue as it is and remain a peaceful country.


6 posted on 12/11/2012 7:45:26 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: ilovesarah2012

agree, let all those socialist states go on their own and give them their socialist utpopia whilst others like down south and parts of the midwest and AK have our own place.

All conservatives need to move to places like VA, NC, FL, CO, NM and get out of the socialist states and stop giving them money and move to states where their votes do count.

MA,IL, RI, CT, CA, OR, WA are all lost and let them live in their pig swill but only if the illegals, union goons, cross dressing queers, commies etc all move to their new utopia.

This country is not what it used to be and never will.


7 posted on 12/11/2012 7:46:20 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: MinorityRepublican
France: clergy and aristocrats

Mexico: clergy and land owners

Turkey: the Armenians

USSR: the Kulaks

Germany: the Jews

Red China: the landlords

USA: Evil racist white Christian men

(History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes.)


8 posted on 12/11/2012 7:48:50 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Separate countries with 2 presidents. There’s a liar and POS I will never call president,,


9 posted on 12/11/2012 7:50:49 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Eye of Unk

Or Northern and Southern.


10 posted on 12/11/2012 7:51:05 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: MinorityRepublican

I really want to break up.


11 posted on 12/11/2012 7:55:15 PM PST by Trod Upon (A personal readiness for war is the strongest surety of peace.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Americans are, in fact, unusually keen to stick together.

Tinkerbell propaganda hoping those drolling in cups buy this....The U.S. Government has been intentionally flooding the U.S. with tens of millions of foreigners, Muslims, illegal aliens etc, etc for over 30 years now.

They have intentionally divided the united which makes it easier for government to control the divided.

No one buys this kind of propaganda anymore.

12 posted on 12/11/2012 7:56:00 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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13 posted on 12/11/2012 7:57:28 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Eye of Unk

Eastern and Western America?

Middle America and United Socialist States of America.


14 posted on 12/11/2012 7:59:20 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Their side: Utopia

Our side: Realville


15 posted on 12/11/2012 8:00:54 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

If you could first know where you are and whither you are tending, you could better judge what to do and how to do it. You initiated a policy to tolerate the Marxist-Alinsky radicals and let them rant; not only has it not ceased but was constantly augmented by decades of infiltration and indoctrination. You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.

The question today is either the opponents of statism will arrest the further spread of it and place it on course of ultimate extinction, or its advocates will push it forward till it shall become permanent.

Have you no tendency to the latter condition?

Let anyone who doubts carefully contemplate the now almost complete legal combination — piece of machinery, so to speak — compounded of the Republican Party hands-across-the-aisle doctrine and the dreadful actions among statism's chief architects.

The other America.. our elite ruling class New Normal

About to become permanent as the only America?

16 posted on 12/11/2012 8:06:10 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Travis McGee

Bookmark.


17 posted on 12/11/2012 8:19:19 PM PST by sport
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To: MinorityRepublican

It used to be “United we stand. Divided we fall.” Now it’s just the opposite.


18 posted on 12/11/2012 8:25:46 PM PST by Terry Mross (I don't watch the "news". Someone ping me if something big happens.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

With the 2012 election showing the takers overwhelming the makers, and America jumping headlong into a foreign-style marxist/redistributionist ideology, not to mention the cultural devolution into depravity with things like gay marriage... all I can say is that now, for the first time in my life, I’m viewing myself more as a Texan, and not an American.

It’s not my first choice, but I’m increasingly open to secession as a viable end-game.


19 posted on 12/11/2012 8:31:08 PM PST by greene66
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To: MinorityRepublican

It’s not you, it’s me.


20 posted on 12/11/2012 8:36:04 PM PST by Redcitizen (.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I want to break up and I have since Obama was selected. I seriously think we should become two separate countries.

Only two? More likely that it will break up into more than that, with different spheres of influence from other countries. This current government cannot stand as is, fiscal problems doom it, many of us agree on that. However, even the libs are divided amongst themselves, and won't be able to keep their portion together if conservatives break away. There will be multiple country/states formed.

21 posted on 12/11/2012 8:47:42 PM PST by roadcat
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To: MinorityRepublican

secession?

What for? We have a perfectly good contitution and the remains of a great nation. All we need is a good enema to flush out some of the scum that is gumming up the works.

Seceed? Nope, Expell the Traitors.


22 posted on 12/11/2012 8:50:50 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

That’s a cry inducing post right there.


23 posted on 12/11/2012 9:04:51 PM PST by onona (tapping fingers)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“So far Texas, South Carolina, Georgia, Louisiana, Florida, Missouri, Tennessee, North Carolina, Alabama, Oklahoma and Ohio have all attracted more than 25,000 names apiece “

That’s 11 more states with 25,000 petitioners than there were 4 years ago. What are the feds going to bribe us with to convince us to stay?


24 posted on 12/11/2012 10:17:31 PM PST by Tymesup
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To: MinorityRepublican

BBC camel drool....


25 posted on 12/11/2012 10:52:20 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: max americana

I never call Obama president. I call him a lot of things but “president” ain’t one of them!


26 posted on 12/12/2012 4:13:00 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: MinorityRepublican
From the BBC (circa 1774): "Unlike almost all of their Western counterparts, however, Americans appear remarkably happy to stay together (with the King) despite their differences."
27 posted on 12/12/2012 4:36:30 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: MinorityRepublican

nope - we do.

If texas breaks off, the number of people moving to Texas will skyrocket.

The real estate market there will fully recover. Construction will boom. Unemployment will drop like a rock.

Freeloaders will self select themselves out.


28 posted on 12/12/2012 4:58:48 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: MinorityRepublican

We won’t do it, but we will lose the constitution if we stay one Nation. We will be a mean, dead, drab and deadly Soviet system of abuse and oppression. Americans will be slaves to the party and “business” elitists like the Chi-coms.

There will be no more America if we stay together.


29 posted on 12/12/2012 8:17:16 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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