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Object seen in orbit after North Korea carries out controversial rocket launch
CNN ^ | December 12, 2012 | Jethro Mullen

Posted on 12/12/2012 1:37:35 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Object seen in orbit after North Korea carries out controversial rocket launch

By Jethro Mullen, CNN

December 12, 2012 -- Updated 0907 GMT (1707 HKT)

Hong Kong (CNN) -- North Korea surprised and angered the international community Wednesday by launching a long-range rocket that appeared to put a satellite in orbit, a breakthrough for the reclusive, nuclear-armed state.

The North Korean regime said the rocket had successfully blasted off from a space center on its west coast and delivered a satellite into its intended orbit. The launch followed a botched attempt in April and came just days after Pyongyang suggested its plans could be delayed.

North Korea's previous claims of successful satellite launches have been dismissed by the United States and other countries, but this time it seemed to have pulled it off.

Initial indications suggest the rocket "deployed an object that appeared to achieve orbit," the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), the joint U.S.-Canadian aerospace agency, said in a statement.

(Excerpt) Read more at edition.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: controversial; icbm; korea; launch; nkorea; northkorea; object; orbit; rocket; satellite
It is not over yet. This will be followed by the 3rd nuclear test some time in this winter, which may well be successful.
1 posted on 12/12/2012 1:37:49 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...

P!


2 posted on 12/12/2012 1:39:20 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

3 posted on 12/12/2012 1:46:50 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Bump


4 posted on 12/12/2012 2:03:28 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: TigerLikesRooster

If they can put a satellite into a tricky polar orbit then they are close to having the ability to target any place on the face of the earth. Reentry giudance is all they need.


5 posted on 12/12/2012 2:08:33 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: fella

If they can put a satellite into a tricky polar orbit then they are close to having the ability to target any place on the face of the earth. Reentry giudance is all they need.

Partial re-entry at that because with a nuke they could EMP us...


6 posted on 12/12/2012 2:13:52 AM PST by GraceG
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Ooooh, sexiest man alive....as per The Onion.....


7 posted on 12/12/2012 2:32:39 AM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Meanwhile the USA has something launched as well....

Hmmmmmm....
8 posted on 12/12/2012 2:34:49 AM PST by haywoodwebb (Keep your focus on the TRUTH and we will prevail . . . One Day at a Time, Mates!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Ok, this will sound crazy but...
they now have the capability to poof an EMP above our heads.

And no reason not to...


9 posted on 12/12/2012 2:39:22 AM PST by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Maybe that Red Dawn Movie was accurate after-all. /sarc


10 posted on 12/12/2012 2:42:53 AM PST by BushCountry (I hope the Mayans are wrong!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

No re entry required. Detonate a nuke 250 miles above Omaha and 90% of the US population would be dead in a few months. As per Dr. Graham, Chair of the 2008 EMP Commission Report to Congress.


11 posted on 12/12/2012 3:44:21 AM PST by Any Fate But Submission
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To: flaglady47

Yesterday at the opening of an interview, Sen McCain chided Cavuto about his weight and that he and the Korean were twins separated at birth


12 posted on 12/12/2012 3:48:22 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Any Fate But Submission
Yeah, but let's just say the Russians launched an EMP or other thermo-nuke attack by proxy on us which made it look like the North Koreans did it, putting US politicians in the position to have to massively retaliate, completely shattering the US economy and setting the world stage for the whimpering end of the United States as a world power while the actual belligerents sat back and watched.

Yeah, I think Barack Hussein Obama could handle that 0400 phone call. Don't you? Maybe we should ask Ambassador Stevens. Mr. Ambassador? Hello?
13 posted on 12/12/2012 4:00:00 AM PST by golux
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To: golux

and setting the world stage for the whimpering end of the United States as a world power


You are a little bit late in your statement. The world stage was set in 2008 and the act that ended our “world power” status happened in November 2012.

Now, the world simply laughs as us for they know the chief communist of the united states will do nothing more than tell more lies, obfuscate, defy the Constitution and any/and all things to bring the U.S. further down to it’s knees before his communist friends.

We have become the laughing stock of the world. We have finally done it to ourselves for now we have a Politically Correct affirmative action president that has a secret past and is a raving communist.


14 posted on 12/12/2012 4:56:19 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: golux

One EMP pulse would be a dream come true for Obama if he knew in advance and the FedGov had hardened its systems in advance. Think of the hardship and privation, the mass die offs and the end of the US as we know it to be rebuilt by Obama as a New Amerika.


15 posted on 12/12/2012 5:16:24 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Truth29
One EMP pulse would be a dream come true for Obama if he knew in advance and the FedGov had hardened its systems in advance. Think of the hardship and privation, the mass die offs and the end of the US as we know it to be rebuilt by Obama as a New Amerika.

Who would die off? Dems. Dem city low-life voters. All who put Obama into office.

And the tyrants will come out to play.

16 posted on 12/12/2012 6:03:23 AM PST by nonsporting
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To: GraceG

Now can we stop ignoring this threat?

Now.


17 posted on 12/12/2012 6:07:57 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: golux

I for one welcome EMP’s over every continent. One big reset button. My fear is our dear Muslim in Chief will not retaliate with EMP’s but do nothing and open us up to invasion of sorts.

A world without tv, radio, and mass transit for 6 months would be a blessing in disguise. After the weed out period of liberals and others not prepared we would come back stronger and smarter.


18 posted on 12/12/2012 6:11:15 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: nonsporting
"Who would die off? Dems. Dem city low-life voters. All who put Obama into office."

Doesn't matter. The useful idiots would have served their purpose.

"And the tyrants will come out to play."

Indeed they would and Obama would be betting that his surviving Federal forces would install him as Maximum Leader for Life. Others would have different ideas and the results would be settled with blood and steel, not elections.

19 posted on 12/12/2012 6:11:47 AM PST by Truth29
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Does the orbit of the object cross the North American continent? If so, it may well be an EMP device purchased from Paki or the Russkis.

Shoot it down, now.


20 posted on 12/12/2012 6:54:48 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Resolute Conservative
I for one welcome EMP’s over every continent. A world without tv, radio, and mass transit for 6 months would be a blessing in disguise. After the weed out period of liberals and others not prepared we would come back stronger and smarter.

Virtually every industrial motor made these days has electronic controls. There would be no gas pumps, no food harvesting or transportation, and no refrigeration. Ports would shut down. Sewage would back up. Wells would be effectively dry... If in fact you want that kind of disease, starvation, and death for billions of decent people, families and children, worldwide... with not a care in the world for the true consequences, much less justice on an individual basis, if to you, the ends of getting rid of liberals justify the means of the largest willful slaughter in history... then you are every bit as bad as they are.

Of all the mindsets in the world I despise, yours is the worst: No respect for innocent life, shallow, vile, disgusting, and completely irresponsible. NOBODY is prepared sufficiently for what would follow.

Enjoy your stay in hell.

21 posted on 12/12/2012 8:17:00 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Sometimes people making flippant comments haven’t really thought it through or don’t actually mean it. Other times they are just evil.


22 posted on 12/12/2012 8:28:52 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: steve86
Sometimes people making flippant comments haven’t really thought it through or don’t actually mean it.

I know, but a good spanking is still a conservative practice. Lacking that, they'll act on said opinion without another thought. That's how we get "good NAZIS" in this world.

There are people who really do mean to force G_d's hand, whether to bring on the Tribulation, provoke Messiah to come, the Twelfth Imam, the rise of the phoenix for a New Age, or a good ol' fashioned reset. They have a LOT of power and money at their disposal (and ours). I really don't care what it is. "Evil" hardly covers that kind of thinking.

There are literally billions of good people on this earth. Even our inner cities have their Salvation Army volunteers. G_d loves that kind of dedication. NONE of those people deserve that kind of thoughtlessness. NOBODY has the right to provoke G_d. We were taught to trust the Torah, teaching repentance first, love, forbearance, self-discipline, and preparation, offering firm instruction, not to tolerate evil on anyone because of the devices of others. Anyone calling him or herself a "conservative" knows that.

23 posted on 12/12/2012 9:01:01 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Hey Tiger I think it was successful

I saw Pyrongnag Patty earlier on CNN international LOL!

She was open up her big yap on this


24 posted on 12/12/2012 9:03:05 AM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Carry_Okie

Whaa. I am fully aware of the ramifications and what won’t work. Chance favors the prepared mind. I still have a vehicle without electronic ignition. I still have my wits and ability to think outside of an iPod and tv remote.

And your solution is probably to try and talk and vote sense back into our land. Good luck. We have jumped the shark. We are two maybe three elections from the 47% becoming 50%+. Either way social decline in looming and a class war is highly likely.

The next step is no better than what you outline, total socialization of our economy, then failure and maybe UN control over part if not all our infrastructure. In that case I see the same scenario playing out with a loss of utilities, food supply, and commerce once the scales tip and the money is gone. Then comes rioting and outright decay. Under the EMP scenario at least we are on a level playing field in the world and everyone will have to worry about their own and not impact us. We would recover faster.

Any civil war scenario and the result is likely the same except we are vulnerable.

If we go into failure alone we are ripe for the picking. Other countries not as advanced as we are won’t be affected to the level you describe they are already living without modern conveniences. It is the west, Russia, and industrial Asia and the ME that will have the problems and we created them with our decadence, apathy, and stupidity. And I dare say in rural Russia, Mexico, and the east the majority of that population would not notice if the lights went out.

A reset is coming. Choose your poison. As to your claim of hurting decent people and their children, those people had a chance and they voted for what they get. They should have paid attention to their lives instead of watching tv. I have no pity and don’t really care what happens on either side of the oceans anymore. Their outright hatred of all we have done for the world has dulled my empathy.

As for me I will rectify my eternity with my Lord as I will be faithful to him and help those in need (very short term) who can find me. Hell will be my zip code if I am on this earth and living under a boot.


25 posted on 12/12/2012 9:09:38 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Any Fate But Submission
Detonate a nuke 250 miles above Omaha and 90% of the US population would be dead in a few months.

I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed, but I think the EMP threat is overblown. Our main evidence is the 1962 Starfish Prime nuke test, 1.5 megatons detonated 250 miles above Johnston Island about 800 miles away from Hawaii, and the electromagnetic pulse knocked out 300 streetlights in Honolulu and also set off lots of burglar alarms, and damaged a microwave link that shut down telephone service to Kauai.

Also, Starfish was an H-bomb; all North Korea has produced so far is wet-firecracker A-bombs. The first US hydrogen bomb was fueled by 82 tons of liquid deuterium in a cryogenic tank as big as a railroad car; if the Norks could put that kind of hardware into orbit, they would have put a man on the Moon by now.
26 posted on 12/12/2012 9:11:40 AM PST by Colinsky
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To: Resolute Conservative
Well, Resolute, may your "blessing in disguise" not occur while you're posting an important comment on the internet.

And after all your EMP's weed out the dumb folk's, may we all start using apostrophe's correctly.
27 posted on 12/12/2012 9:49:10 AM PST by golux
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To: Truth29
"Who would die off? Dems. Dem city low-life voters. All who put Obama into office." ... Doesn't matter. The useful idiots would have served their purpose.

It would once Constitutional government is restored and most/many of the criminal element have died off.

28 posted on 12/12/2012 9:56:57 AM PST by nonsporting
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To: Carry_Okie; Resolute Conservative
I hate both of you. GAH! You both STINK! YOU ALL SUCK! GAH, I *HATE* YOU!!!1!!1 NOTHING EITHER OF YOU WRITE MAKES ANY SENSE!!!11!! Are you all MORONS???!? You all go ON and ON and ON, and you think you are making a point, BUT YOU TOTALLY THE ISSUE!!! What sort of IDIOT is allowed on this forum with that sort of CLAPTRAP???!?? Can you at LEAST stop EMBARASSING yourselves! You both know NOTHING about what we are talking about and you both COMPLETELY miss the point. Besides, HERE ARE THREE CITATIONS that show you are both CREEPS and TOTALLY WRONG about EVERYTHING. How can TWO MEN be SUCH FREAKIN LOSERS??!?
29 posted on 12/12/2012 9:59:31 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"This is something that we have to worry about," Philip Yun, who advised former President Bill Clinton on North Korean issues, said of the launch. He noted that it had taken the United States 24 attempts to successfully launch a similar kind of vehicle.
They're 24 times smarter than we are! /s

But North Korea still has a lot work of to do "if they're actually going to mount a nuclear device or a weapon on a rocket," said Yun,
Not so much work with all the "help" they're getting.
30 posted on 12/12/2012 10:04:12 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Lazamataz

Man, I wish I had posted something to have been included in that! Got anything left for a Cheese lover?


31 posted on 12/12/2012 10:25:06 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: Gadsden1st
Got anything left for a Cheese lover?

Ya damned frog-food fetishist.

32 posted on 12/12/2012 10:42:24 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Lazamataz

Ouch, now you have hurt my feelings.

I guess there was also no way Obamacare would pass and then be upheld in SCOTUS either or that we would basically sit as a neutered dog while one of our consulates was overrun and Americans murdered, or an non-vetted foreigner would be elected president - twice. Yeah it can never happen here. Put down the wine cooler and breathe deeply.

Hope for the best, plan for the worst.


33 posted on 12/12/2012 11:14:20 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: golux

I am ok with that. I am sure Jim could devise a way of delivering a newsletter by pigeon or rural postal carrier when the network fails.

Please make no judgement of my articulation skills based off my typing and I won’t make judgements on your intelligence based off of your opinions.


34 posted on 12/12/2012 11:16:45 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Lazamataz

Guilty! Roquefort is my favorite cheese. Must be in the genes, Great Grandfather came from France.


35 posted on 12/12/2012 11:17:35 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: Gadsden1st

“Great Grandfather came from France.”

It takes a real man to admit that. ;-)


36 posted on 12/12/2012 11:46:57 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: steve86

Or...they think hunger is what you feel four hours after eating.


37 posted on 12/12/2012 11:51:15 AM PST by Vermont Lt (We are so screwed.)
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To: TexasRepublic

If you think that was something, check out post 52 on this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2968062/posts


38 posted on 12/12/2012 11:51:36 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: Resolute Conservative

That sound you hear, flying over your head, was NOT a plane. :)


39 posted on 12/12/2012 11:53:16 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Guns would work. And they might be aimed at you. You go outside to dump your chamber pot and PING.
Someone will live off your preps but it may not be you.


40 posted on 12/12/2012 11:58:49 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Resolute Conservative

YOU HATE ELECTRONS!!!!11!!1


41 posted on 12/12/2012 12:03:25 PM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Have resistance to being negative about electrons. You should have the capacitance to get amped about electrons!


42 posted on 12/12/2012 12:05:04 PM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Truth29
Except the first to die off would be the inner city underclass that is his core support. All the remaining liberals scattered about in the cities would not last much longer.

Those that did last a while would not be the sort Obunga wants around.

43 posted on 12/12/2012 12:07:29 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Gadsden1st
Guilty! Roquefort is my favorite cheese. Must be in the genes, Great Grandfather came from France.

I think they grant SSI-Disability for that condition. ;)

44 posted on 12/12/2012 12:10:46 PM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Colinsky
No disrespect, but you may want to update your tech knowledge. Solid state electronics were not in much use back then. Check into EMP effects and what is vulnerable vs. what was used back the.

Regarding the size and weight of 2 stage nukes, it was a long development path from Ivy Mike to what was popped over Johnston island.

45 posted on 12/12/2012 12:19:42 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Lazamataz

Don’t hold back.....tell us what you really think. ;-)


46 posted on 12/12/2012 4:47:22 PM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Probably make a fortune selling copies of that jacket to the degenerate mongrels that voted to put a foreign communist in the WH for a second time.

Look for commie fashion to become the rage in the USSA this year.


47 posted on 12/12/2012 4:51:45 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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