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5 things to know about Mich. right-to-work bills (AP wept)
Pioneer Press ^ | 12-12-12 | JEFF KAROUB

Posted on 12/12/2012 5:40:39 AM PST by TurboZamboni

THE NAME IS MISLEADING

It isn't about a right to work but rather a right for workers to choose whether they want to join a union or pay fees that amount to union dues. The legislation prohibits what are known as "closed shops," where workers have no choice but to join a union or pay those fees.

IT MOVED SWIFTLY

The GOP majority used its superior numbers and backing from Gov. Rick Snyder to ramrod legislation through the House and Senate last week. They brushed aside denunciations and challenges by helpless Democrats and cries of outrage from thousands of union activists who swarmed the state Capitol hallways and grounds. Snyder signed the bills into law Tuesday, hours after the final House votes.

BUT DIDN'T OVER EASILY

Supporters, including Republican leaders in the Legislature and the Michigan Chamber of Commerce, insist it's about freedom of association for workers and a better business climate...

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ap; mi; rtw; unions; wolverines
What union do newpaper writers belong to?
1 posted on 12/12/2012 5:40:45 AM PST by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni
BUT DIDN'T OVER EASILY

The level of abject illiteracy in journalism is striking.

It didn't 'over easily'?

Did we suddenly switch topics to discuss breakfast egg preparation?

2 posted on 12/12/2012 5:44:06 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: TurboZamboni

Some people around here say the GOP is useless, it’s dead, it should go away. But the RTW law in Michigan and other such laws in Indiana, Ohio, and Wisconsin would not have been possible without GOP governors and state legislatures. I think we should work on rebuilding the GOP, not destroying it and tearing it down.


3 posted on 12/12/2012 5:50:41 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: TurboZamboni
"They brushed aside denunciations and challenges by helpless Democrats and cries of outrage from thousands of union activists who swarmed the state Capitol hallways and grounds."

They didn't even have time to flee to a bordering state.

4 posted on 12/12/2012 5:52:01 AM PST by Tula Git
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To: TurboZamboni

According to Witness by Whitaker Chambers, writers belong to to the Commie laden Writers’ Guild.


5 posted on 12/12/2012 5:53:22 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Lazamataz

union educated “jernalisst”


6 posted on 12/12/2012 5:53:35 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: TurboZamboni

THE NAME IS MISLEADING

I agree it is a PRO CHOICE Bill. Which is exactly how it should of been named and packaged.


7 posted on 12/12/2012 5:53:41 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Makes you wonder why congress isn’t taking note of what the successful governors are doing. They truly are stupid up there on capital hill.


8 posted on 12/12/2012 5:53:53 AM PST by jersey117
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To: Lazamataz

the left out the word ‘Bend’?


9 posted on 12/12/2012 5:54:05 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

GOP governors and state legislatures


Operative words..... People see, know to a better degree, what they do.

Washington is smoke and mirrors, and not well understood by the voters..


10 posted on 12/12/2012 5:55:42 AM PST by patriotspride
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To: Lazamataz

He was typing the story on his Blackberry while yelling at the waitress.


11 posted on 12/12/2012 5:56:33 AM PST by COBOL2Java (GOPe: Already prepping for their 2016 loss - Jeb Bush!)
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To: TurboZamboni

” - - - - a right for workers to choose whether they want to join a union or pay fees that amount to union dues. - - - “

Our Founding Fathers are smiling!


12 posted on 12/12/2012 5:59:27 AM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: TurboZamboni

Where was the AP when “The Affordable Health-care Act” was being pushed through Congress.


13 posted on 12/12/2012 5:59:39 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: TurboZamboni

HOORAY Rick Snyder and the Republican Michigan legislature! DEFUND totalitarian/socialist collectives that FORCE you to do anything. Now, about Obamacare...have you read the 10th amendment to the U.S. Constitution? Stand up to these punks, thugs, internationalists, progressives, criminals. You’re already GRRRREAT in the state. There’s no reason why you can’t be conservative, Republican Presidential material. Turn this national, socialist-induced fiasco around.


14 posted on 12/12/2012 6:01:51 AM PST by PGalt
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To: TurboZamboni
Scribblers
15 posted on 12/12/2012 6:05:14 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: TheOldLady
BUT DIDN'T OVER EASILY

The level of abject illiteracy in journalism is striking. Since journalists are mostly liberal and communist, and since Saul Alinsky teaches to make others live to their own standards, and also that mockery is the most effective weapon a man can wield, I have created the....

The Official "Dem Jernalists Shore Need Skoolin'..." Ping List.

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16 posted on 12/12/2012 6:06:13 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: eyeamok
In Florida, the wording is:

"The right of persons to work shall not be denied or abridged on account of membership or non-membership in any labor union or labor organization. The right of employees, by and through a labor organization, to bargain collectively shall not be denied or abridged. Public employees shall not have the right to strike."

17 posted on 12/12/2012 6:13:49 AM PST by Banjoguy (The Mayor of San Antonio is the smoothest liar I have ever seen.)
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To: TurboZamboni
By eliminating the “closed shop” monopoly foisted on employers, companies have more flexibility in recuiting talent that would otherwise not be allowed by a union. A lot of otherwise qualifed people have been turned down by a potential employer, simply because the didn’t belong to a union.
18 posted on 12/12/2012 6:16:56 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Lazamataz

It was sunny side down for the unions.


19 posted on 12/12/2012 6:17:48 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
I wouldn't get too excited about the Michigan republicans just yet. Many of them who voted for RTW also voted to force home care workers into a union they didn't want. (Which BTW was a republican sponsored bill) Guys like Roger Kahn and Randy Richardville are term limited and on their way out the door and can afford to anger the unions now.

Look back a couple of years and you'll find Roger Kahn hanging with some of his friends on the day they gave him $5000.

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On Aug. 5, 2009, Sen. Jason Allen, R-Traverse City, introduced Senate Bill 731, which would give statutory cover to a scheme transferring approximately $6.6 million in taxpayer money annually to the SEIU government employee union, one of the parents of ACORN. This is accomplished by creating a shell government "employer" for some 42,000 individuals who are actually hired by elderly or disabled Medicaid recipients to provide personal care services in their homes. A Mackinac Center lawsuit is pending regarding a similar arrangement imposed on home day care providers.

GOP Senators, SEIU Taxpayer Giveaways, Campaign Cash and More, OH MY!

Wendy Day of Common Sense in Government has reported on Facebook that Allen was the recipient of a $2,000 campaign contribution from the SEIU on June 22, six weeks before SB 731 was introduced. In another post she hints that introducing and passing the bill was part of a quid-pro-quo between Senate Republicans and the SEIU for union support of former state representative Mike Nofs in a November 2009 special election, which state Republican Party Chair Ron Weiser had characterized as among the party's top priorities. Day observes that the SEIU endorsed Nofs on August 22nd, two weeks after SB 731 was introduced, and sent four full-time workers to help on his campaign.

The predecessor organization of Common Sense in Government had organized volunteers for a door-to-door "lit drop" focused on Nofs in July, when he faced a challenger in the Republican primary election. They distributed flyers describing his voting record on fiscal issues, in particular his votes against measures opposed by the MEA teachers union.

Senate Bill 731 was co-sponsored by these Republican Senators:

Roger Kahn, Bruce Patterson, Valde Garcia, Tony Stamas, Judson Gilbert, Mark Jansen, Randy Richardville, and Patricia Birkholz.


Yes RTW is the best thing to happen to Michigan in a long time but we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that these guys are politicians who spend a lot of time checking to see which way the wind is blowing and dreaming of aspirations of higher office.

20 posted on 12/12/2012 6:18:36 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: TurboZamboni

The Marxists claim to be PRO-Choice, yet they are forming thuggish mobs to protest choice. I suppose this proves that they are not pro-choice at all.

In addition, when asked about the role of unions many members will default that the role of their unions are, “to protect us from abusive employers.” Well, let’s assume that is true. We also know that the largest unionized industry is government employees, which tells me that the most abusive employer is the government. So, these same marxists want the most abusive employer to also be in charge of making the health care choices for every individual.

They are all marxist morons, useful idiots!


21 posted on 12/12/2012 6:21:25 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: TurboZamboni
What union do newpaper writers belong to?

At one time they belonged to the Newspaper Guild. Not sure what if any these days.


22 posted on 12/12/2012 6:22:40 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Ouderkirk

note to self


23 posted on 12/12/2012 6:27:03 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Behind Enemy Lines wrote:
“Some people around here say the GOP is useless, it’s dead, it should go away. But the RTW law in Michigan and other such laws in Indiana, Ohio, and Wisconsin would not have been possible without GOP governors and state legislatures. I think we should work on rebuilding the GOP, not destroying it and tearing it down.”

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It must occur at the “grass roots” level. Constitutional Conservatives must get involved in local party politics,support conservative candidates and VOTE IN THE PRIMARIES


24 posted on 12/12/2012 6:28:40 AM PST by John Galt's cousin (WTF? We couldn't rescue four men in Benghazi? Is our military IMPOTENT? ( /s ))
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To: John Galt's cousin
It must occur at the “grass roots” level. Constitutional Conservatives must get involved in local party politics,support conservative candidates and VOTE IN THE PRIMARIES

As far as I know, Michigan is the only place where tea partiers and GOP conservatives have gotten strongly involved in the state GOP convention and actively removed some RINOs from the party policy making structure and its lit a real fire under the GOP.

I don't know why people can't seem to grasp the fact that if we want to change the GOP we need to change the national committee. In Michigan there were only some 1500 total votes cast and uber RINO Saul Anuzis was removed from his RNC committee chair and replaced with conservative Dave Agema.
25 posted on 12/12/2012 6:40:14 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: TurboZamboni

“...helpless Democrats”!? LOL


26 posted on 12/12/2012 6:45:17 AM PST by sarasota
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To: TurboZamboni

“What union do newpaper writers belong to?”

I believe they used to be affiliated with the Soviet Union.


27 posted on 12/12/2012 6:54:45 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Some people around here say the GOP is useless, it’s dead, it should go away. But the RTW law in Michigan and other such laws in Indiana, Ohio, and Wisconsin would not have been possible without GOP governors and state legislatures. I think we should work on rebuilding the GOP, not destroying it and tearing it down.

Amen. Conservatives need to focus on influencing public policy at the local level, including the state level. They are already having major successes there. As soon as Obama and his cohorts completely take away all power from state and local government, that's when we're really in a world of hurt.

28 posted on 12/12/2012 6:58:15 AM PST by JustaCowgirl (Revolutions are not born out of success, they are born out of despair)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

“I think we should work on rebuilding the GOP, not destroying it and tearing it down.”

So tell us, how do you do that at the national level? What’s your plan for getting rid of the entrenched “leadership?” How do you propose that we go about getting rid of Boner and McConnell? I think you are right, but I don’t see any near-term way of changing the GOP.


29 posted on 12/12/2012 7:07:31 AM PST by vette6387
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To: TurboZamboni
I'm sure you've read and heard the left's new buzz work, "Free Riders" to refer to employees not paying union dues but benefiting from those union members pay their dues.

I say we now call those 47% not paying income tax as "Free Riders"!

30 posted on 12/12/2012 7:42:47 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: TurboZamboni

This is one of several liberal press articles I have read decrying (or should I say crying about) the passage of a Michigan Right to Work law. They have all failed to mention the fact that the unions attempted to, and failed to pass, an amendment to the Michigan constitution, which would have permanently placed Union Shops into the Michigan constitution. It was the resounding failure of this amendment that emboldened the Republican controlled state government to pass the Right to Work law. To me, this is an important piece of information.


31 posted on 12/12/2012 8:14:51 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: TexasCajun

“I say we now call those 47% not paying income tax as “Free Riders”!”

I agree. Let’s also add that terminology update to Illegal Immigrants!


32 posted on 12/12/2012 8:30:57 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Lazamataz

Over easy with steak and texas toast...MMMM.


33 posted on 12/12/2012 8:33:16 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: CSM

Could apply to half the people on ‘light rail’ here in the Twin Cities,too.


34 posted on 12/12/2012 8:34:04 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: jersey117

If the country can be saved, it will have to be at the state level.

The feds are feckless, clueless, hopeless morons.


35 posted on 12/12/2012 8:38:16 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: jersey117
They truly are stupid up there on capital hill.

Do you ever wonder why 535 of the advertised "best and brightest" display the I.Q. of a door knob?

36 posted on 12/12/2012 5:21:29 PM PST by dearolddad
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