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Obama's America Will Become Detroit
Townhall.com ^ | December 12, 2012 | Terry Jeffrey

Posted on 12/12/2012 6:43:03 AM PST by Kaslin

President Barack Obama travelled to Michigan this week and made his case for class war in defense of the welfare state.

We need to take more money from the rich, he said, or schools will not be able to afford books, students will not be able to afford college, and disabled children will not get health care.

"Our economic success has never come from the top down," said Obama. "It comes from the middle out.It comes from the bottom up."

Obama spoke these words a few miles from Detroit -- the reductio ad absurdum of his argument.

If America continues down the road to Obama's America -- a road that began when President Franklin Roosevelt started building a welfare state here -- our entire nation will become Detroit.

Obama's economic and moral vision has played out in that city. What he seeks has been achieved there.

Last week, as reported by the Detroit Free Press, Michigan's state treasurer told Detroit's mayor and city council that the state may soon appoint an emergency financial manager for the city. Under Michigan law, the paper said, only such a manager can initiate the steps leading to a bankruptcy filing for the city.

By current calculations, Detroit faces obligations over the next six months that exceed its revenues by $47 million. The city, the Free Press reported, now pays $1.08 in benefits to municipal workers and retirees for every $1.00 it pays in salary.

What happened to Detroit? It is achieving socialism in one city.

Traditional two-parent families and the productive taxpaying citizens they produce have fled. In 1950, according the U.S. Census Bureau, Detroit had 1,849,568 people and was the fifth-largest city in the nation. By 2000, its population had dropped to 951,270; by 2010, to 713,777; and by 2011, to 706,585.

What has happened to the people who remain? The Census Bureau estimates there are 563,055 people age 16 or older in the city who could potentially work and be part of the labor force. But only 54.3 percent of these -- or 305,479 individuals -- actually do participate in the labor force, meaning they either have a job or are looking for one. Another 257,576 of Detroit residents age 16 or older -- 45.7 percent of that demographic -- do not participate in the labor force. They do not have a job, and they are not looking for one.

In fact, these 257,576 people in Detroit who do not have a job and are not looking for one outnumber the 224,846 residents who do have jobs. But of the 224,846 residents who do have jobs, 34,500 -- or 15.3 percent -- have jobs with the government. Thus, this city that boasted 1,849,568 residents in 1950 has only 190,346 private-sector workers today.

There are 264,209 households in Detroit, and 91,204 of them -- or 34.5 percent -- get food stamps.

Very few of the people who are staying out of the labor force in Detroit are staying out because they are stay-at-home moms with working husbands. Of the 264,209 households in Detroit, only 24,275 -- or 9.2 percent -- are married couple families with children under 18. Another 78,438 households -- or 29.7 percent of the total -- are "families" headed by women with no husband present. Of these, 43,742 have children under 18.

There were 12,103 babies born in Detroit in the 12 months prior to the Census Bureau survey, and 9,124 of them -- or 75.4 percent -- were born to unmarried women.

Of the 363,281 housing units in Detroit, 99,072 are vacant. Indeed, vacant houses have become a powerful visual symbol of what advancing socialism has done to the city. Traditional family life is nearing extinction in this once vibrant corner of America.

Obama said in Michigan that if the federal government does not take more money away from people who have earned it, the public schools may not be able to buy school books. But the Department of Education says that in the Detroit public schools -- which have books -- only 7 percent of the eight graders are grade-level proficient in reading and only 4 percent are grade-level proficient in math.

School books are not lacking here. Self-reliance, the spirit of individualism, and the Judeo-Christian values that support marriage and family are. They have been driven by a government that wants the people to depend on it rather than on themselves, their families and their faith.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: detroit; obamaville

1 posted on 12/12/2012 6:43:09 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

This man and his party are leading us to total socioeconomic catastrophe down the path already trod by many nations before us. The immorality, laziness and complete godlessness of the people leads them to a government they deserve.


2 posted on 12/12/2012 6:50:20 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Kaslin

ping for later


3 posted on 12/12/2012 6:53:11 AM PST by precisionshootist
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To: Kaslin
"Our economic success has never come from the top down," said Obama. "It comes from the middle out.It comes from the bottom up."

A zero substance statement. Meanwhile Rick Snyder says Detroit isn't getting a bailout but he is working to give them a hand up. Things like a second bridge will ease the trade bottleneck and bring trucking, warehousing and other freight related business to Detroit. The big difference is that Detroit won't have uncontrolled access to the money.
4 posted on 12/12/2012 6:57:42 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin
0bama's America will become Detroit ......


5 posted on 12/12/2012 7:02:37 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
This man and his party are leading us to total socioeconomic catastrophe

And it is intentional.

We are living in the modern equivalent of the waning years of the Roman Empire.
Except this time the enemy and destroyers are not hordes of foreign barbarians attacking from the outside.
The destroyers of our civilization are sitting in high office in Washington, DC., placed there by voters too stupid to tell a charlatan from a messiah.


6 posted on 12/12/2012 7:06:58 AM PST by Iron Munro (I MISS AMERICA !)
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To: Kaslin

It sounds eerily reminiscent of Starnesville.


7 posted on 12/12/2012 7:08:09 AM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: Kaslin

Obama thinks what all socialists think: there’s an inexhaustible supply of money that never runs out. All that has to be done is to make the hoarders and stealers of the gigantic money supply (the evil rich i.e. the producers) give more of their ill-gotten gains to the people (Dem constituents i.e. the takers) the Dems deem need the loot the most.


8 posted on 12/12/2012 7:09:38 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Kaslin

When the majority of Americans WANT America to become Detroit, there is nothing you can do. Even if the Americans who want this don’t have any idea what they’re asking for.


9 posted on 12/12/2012 7:16:20 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Kaslin
"It comes from the middle out.It comes from the bottom up."

Oh, okay.
The next time I see destitute, down-in-the-gutter alcoholic passed out in the street next to the curb about to drown in his own vomit, I'll ask him for a job.

( rolls eyes )

10 posted on 12/12/2012 7:18:53 AM PST by red-dawg
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To: Kaslin

“. . . and disabled children will not get health care.” . . .
Yes, they will. What’s breaking the USA Entitlement Bank is the cash payment of $700 a month Supplemental Security Income (aka federal welfare from general funds, not from social security money). Mind you, this $700 every month is in addition to full medicaid. What’s the extra money for? So their “single” mom can: 1. not work, even though the child is at school; 2. support the whole family with the SSI, plus Section 8 and food stamps, of course, all of which have no work requirements like TANF is supposed to. Why are we paying $700 a month? Entitlement reform should start with SSI for children who function well enough for the parent to be able to work.


11 posted on 12/12/2012 7:22:29 AM PST by clashfan (know your rights)
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To: driftless2
In that case he and they are like little children who demand that their parents buy them everything they want, because they think money grows on trees

The bad thing is when parents do give in

12 posted on 12/12/2012 7:25:34 AM PST by Kaslin ( One Big Ass Mistake America (Make that Two))
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To: Servant of the Cross
Yeah, I want to live there.

I spent about half a day there one time, in summer 1979. The Ren Cen was brand new, I saw it then, barely months old. I couldn't leave Detroit fast enough. What a dump.

Then it really ran downhill.

13 posted on 12/12/2012 7:30:24 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Servant of the Cross


14 posted on 12/12/2012 7:32:10 AM PST by Kaslin ( One Big Ass Mistake America (Make that Two))
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Meanwhile our side is sending jobs abroad.

So we have no room to complain.

BRING BACK AMERICAN JOBS.


15 posted on 12/12/2012 7:35:15 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Kaslin

The only problem with this analysis is that Bankrupt Detroit is looking to Obama to bail them out. Who’s going to bail out Obama?


16 posted on 12/12/2012 7:58:34 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Getting rid of excessive regulation and taxation goes hand in hand with ending forced unionization as a means of bringing jobs back.

There’s also the “We’re above physical labor” attitude that needs to be overcome.


17 posted on 12/12/2012 7:58:38 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin

Obama said in Michigan that if the federal government does not take more money away from people who have earned it.

Then why is increasing taxes on the top earners?.


18 posted on 12/12/2012 8:21:22 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: cripplecreek
Getting rid of excessive regulation and taxation goes hand in hand with ending forced unionization as a means of bringing jobs back.

Exactly. It's amazing how these facts are overlooked.



19 posted on 12/12/2012 8:46:35 AM PST by rdb3 (We're all going to get what only some of us deserve...)
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To: Iron Munro

The hordes of foreign barbarians are being welcomed with open arms by Democrats and the Rio Grande Juan McKennedy crowd. The dilution of citizenship will probably work out as well for America as it did for Rome.


20 posted on 12/12/2012 9:07:24 AM PST by Trod Upon (A personal readiness for war is the strongest surety of peace.)
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To: Kaslin

Amazing. Apparently Detroit is now 18th in population size and smaller than Columbus, OH and Ft. Worth, TX. It will soon be passed by El Paso and Memphis (which have already passed Boston in population).

Maybe Detroit and Columbus should swap baseball teams.?


21 posted on 12/12/2012 9:23:15 AM PST by rod1 (CTLY)
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To: driftless2
Obama thinks what all socialists think: there’s an inexhaustible supply of money that never runs out.....

This isn't an oversimplification. People actually think this.

Co-worker of mine used to rail and rave about the owners of our company. ....For the moment, we'll ignore the fact that he was paid a fair wage for a week's work, with benefits, vacation, sick leave, 401K, etc etc etc and was fully capable of leaving at any time for a new job.... Setting those bits aside, he was fond of making the comment: "They take every bit of the profits and just leave us the scraps!"

He was ALSO fond of saying that "We need to stick it to those rich bastards. They NEED to pay their fair share!" ...Taking every bit of their profits and leaving them with only the scraps, I suppose.

The irony is endless. IMHO, it all boils down to which one's hand is holding the whip. :-)

22 posted on 12/12/2012 9:36:30 AM PST by wbill
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To: Iron Munro
As in the Roman republic, we maintain the outward structure of a republic.

Rome had a Senate, tribunes, consuls etc to the end. They went through the motions of doing their ancient duties, when in reality they existed to rubber-stamp the diktats of the emperor. He kept senators wealthy and they more or less gladly did his bidding. Rich and alive beats dead every time.

We are very near the same situation. Congressional hearings that deal with major issues have been replaced by “talks” among party leaders. The world's once most deliberative body is a petty collection of demagogues whose interest goes no further than continuance of their wealth and noble status.

Hussein and his despotic successors will never get rid of Congress or the courts; they are/will be essential to sanction and legitimize the coming hard tyranny.

23 posted on 12/12/2012 10:32:55 AM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Jacquerie
Oops. First line to read:

As in the Roman empire, we maintain the outward structure of a republic.

24 posted on 12/12/2012 10:34:32 AM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Kaslin

That poor beautiful house, a shame.


25 posted on 12/12/2012 10:43:08 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Kaslin

Hard to believe that just fifty years ago when I went to boot camp the boys from Detroit proudly said so as one might say,”I am royalty”. They were very disdainful of us poor Southern boys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yKesnaFYUw


26 posted on 12/12/2012 10:54:15 AM PST by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: wbill

I have some Dem friends for whom things were “just not fair!” It was fair that they made more money than me, but it wasn’t fair that other people made more money than they did. I think a great many Dem voters abide by that screwy philosophy. Someone is doing better than they are (even if, like my friends, they’re doing very well), and IT’S JUST NOT FAIR!!! I remember one time one of my friends going on about the unfairness of professional athletes making millions playing a game. I asked him if he’d feel guilty making that kind of money. He replied: “why should I feel guilty?”


27 posted on 12/12/2012 11:33:46 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Jacquerie

Re: Post 23

Well said!!!


28 posted on 12/12/2012 1:41:14 PM PST by Iron Munro (I MISS AMERICA !)
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To: brownsfan

“Visit Detroit - A city where every liberal idea’s been tried... where every liberal idea has failed...”


29 posted on 12/12/2012 4:02:18 PM PST by GOPJ (Liberal elites: - a 'blame whitey firster' group....(there's payoff in there for them...))
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To: brownsfan

“Visit Detroit - A city where every liberal idea’s been tried... where every liberal idea’s failed...”


30 posted on 12/12/2012 4:03:00 PM PST by GOPJ (Liberal elites: - a 'blame whitey firster' group....(there's payoff in there for them...))
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To: All

How long before Memphis overtakes Detroit on the list of most violent cities?


31 posted on 12/12/2012 4:31:18 PM PST by Terry Mross (I don't watch the "news". Someone ping me if something big happens.)
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To: tet68

“That poor beautiful house, a shame.”

Some links:

Ransom Gillis House
http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Ransom_Gillis_House

63 Alfred Street: Where Capitalism Failed
http://www.63alfred.com/

Ransom-Gillis House, Detroit
http://www.flickr.com/photos/southofbloor/94593351/


32 posted on 12/12/2012 10:54:09 PM PST by PastorBooks
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