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Shrewsbury man defends action against anti-Obama protestors
Community Advocate ^ | 12/12/12 | Adams

Posted on 12/12/2012 1:03:43 PM PST by pabianice

Shrewsbury resident Carl Lund.

Northborough, MA – When Carl Lund saw a table set up on Main Street in Northborough on Friday, Dec. 7, he was “disgusted” he said, to see a poster of President Barack Obama, depicted as Adolf Hitler, prominently displayed.

“I couldn’t believe what I was seeing,” Lund, a resident of Shrewsbury and a Vietnam veteran, said.

Lund then got into a verbal confrontation with the two men manning the table, who Northborough police identified as Ian Brinkley and Jared Caskill.

“[Brinkley and Caskill] claimed it was a peaceful, political display with literature,” Lund said. “I disagreed. I thought it was a despicable, disrespectful display.”

Lund admits that he became angry and kicked the table over.

“They said they would call the police,” he recalled. “I told them to go ahead.”

When the police arrived, he gave them his information and left. Lund, who owns a business he runs out of his home, Heritage Home Carpentry, said he never imagined that the story would then go viral, attracting attention from several Boston TV stations and local media outlets.

“But I have also gotten calls from former and current customers supporting me. Friends have called with offers of support, too,” he said.

Lund stresses that he is “not political.”

“I did not do this as a political statement or even a ‘veteran’s’ statement,” he said. “I was not trying to represent anyone other than myself. It was a personal statement.”

Now, several days after the incident, Lund is pragmatic about what happens next. As of Thursday morning, Dec. 12, he had not received any official notification that he would be charged with any offenses.

“I’ve been told I will receive a summons but I haven’t gotten that yet,” he said. “But whatever happens, I am ready. You need to take responsibility for your actions good or bad and I do.”

“It did not matter who was depicted in that picture,” he said. “What matters is that it was the president of the United States, our chief executive officer, depicted as one of the most villainous people of modern times. It showed absolutely no respect for the office of the presidency.”

Adding to the insult, Lund said, was that the incident happened on the 70th anniversary of Pearl Harbor.

“I had been thinking about that earlier in the day and about the people who died that day in the service of our country,” he added.

Lund acknowledges that some have asked him if the two men should have been allowed to freely display their information under the First Amendment, which guarantees freedom of speech and the right to peacefully assemble.

“I think the bigger conversation is why can you not deface the American flag, currency or coinage but you can deface the image of the president?” he asked. “We have laws to respect other rights but not this?”

“We also have to remember that in this country, the majority rules,” he added. “Even if you don’t agree with the outcome of an election, the majority rules. And I believe it doesn’t matter who is in office, you need to respect the office.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; carllund; firstamendment; freedomofspeech; larouche; lund; moron; thug; thuggery

1 posted on 12/12/2012 1:03:48 PM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice
You need to take responsibility for your actions good or bad and I do.”

I'll bet he doesn't hold his socialist hero Barry to that same standard.

2 posted on 12/12/2012 1:08:03 PM PST by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: pabianice

I’m just wondering if his moral indignation was the same for the “Bushitler” crap.


3 posted on 12/12/2012 1:08:12 PM PST by pfflier
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To: pabianice
"What matters is that it was the president of the United States, our chief executive officer, depicted as one of the most villainous people of modern times."

"...and then they drew a Hitler mustache on him..."

4 posted on 12/12/2012 1:09:02 PM PST by kidd
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To: pabianice

Where was this libtard maggot when G.W Bush was meing hung in effigy or Ronaldus Magnus was being disrespected? If the jug eared One and his supporters don’t want a comparison with dictators, then Zero should not act like a dictator.


5 posted on 12/12/2012 1:11:18 PM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: pabianice

“Adding to the insult, Lund said, was that the incident happened on the 70th anniversary of Pearl Harbor.”

“Was it over when the Germans attacked Pearl Harbor?”

John (Bluto) Blutarski


6 posted on 12/12/2012 1:12:59 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR: Now, More Than Ever.)
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To: pfflier
I’m just wondering if his moral indignation was the same for the “Bushitler” crap.

You're exaggerating a little there, aren't you? :-)

7 posted on 12/12/2012 1:13:47 PM PST by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: pabianice
I wonder how many tables he kicked when the posters where Bushitler? I bet not many.

And this...

“I think the bigger conversation is why can you not deface the American flag, currency or coinage but you can deface the image of the president?” he asked. “We have laws to respect other rights but not this?”

Ignorance on display. You can legally deface all those things, no problemo.

8 posted on 12/12/2012 1:13:55 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: pabianice
I think the bigger conversation is why can you not deface the American flag, currency or coinage but you can deface the image of the president?

Hey,Comrade...sorry to spoil your day but the SCOTUS has specifically ruled that the destruction of the US flag is "speech" protected by the First Amendment.Now it's time for me to return to my photoshop project of making Osama Obama look like Karl Marx.

9 posted on 12/12/2012 1:15:53 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: pabianice

These left wing lowlifes must be held accountable. If the police do not serve a summons on this clown or the union thugs that assaulted people in Michigan, then the police themselves should be sued on behalf of the aggrieved parties.


10 posted on 12/12/2012 1:16:33 PM PST by allendale
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To: pabianice

Fine the twit for disorderly conduct and be done with it.


11 posted on 12/12/2012 1:17:30 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: pabianice

This is one seriously messed up individual.


12 posted on 12/12/2012 1:17:54 PM PST by grobdriver
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To: pabianice

Wonder what that idiot would do when he sees me moon him whilst taking a bodacious Obama on a pic of the Obamadork.


13 posted on 12/12/2012 1:26:56 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: pabianice

Hey Lund! The “office” only holds so much water. Respect and decency is earned by a person, not a position. I don’t give anyone respect that they haven’t earned! I don’t care who they are or where they are. Of course, I’m not into hero worship like so many other peope are either. I have 1 hero, and that is Jesus Christ!


14 posted on 12/12/2012 1:27:17 PM PST by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: pabianice

I’ve seen these people with the table. They’re LaRouche democrats.


15 posted on 12/12/2012 1:28:00 PM PST by Andy'smom
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To: Andy'smom

You beat me to it.


16 posted on 12/12/2012 1:35:41 PM PST by onedoug
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To: vpintheak

Beat me to it!

The office of the president deserves only so much respect, no matter who the occupant is. The founders intended the president to be a citizen servant.....yes, SERVANT. We don’t have royalty in this country and our leaders do not deserve obeisance.

Leftwingers can’t help but fawn over dictators; it comes naturally to their totalitarian hearts.


17 posted on 12/12/2012 1:46:44 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: pabianice

What a moron, love the talk about “majority rules.”


18 posted on 12/12/2012 1:50:43 PM PST by CityCenter (Compromise is the welcome mat to deception.)
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To: Andy'smom

They had a table set up by our local post office. They’re morons too, but they have every right to be there.


19 posted on 12/12/2012 1:52:26 PM PST by CityCenter (Compromise is the welcome mat to deception.)
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To: pabianice

This is a SERIOUS problem we are seeing lately. This man will not be charged with anything. However, if the two men at the table would have used the slightest force to defend their RIGHTS they would have been cuffed and carted ON THE SPOT! This will lead to MASSIVE bloodshed if not reversed.


20 posted on 12/12/2012 1:54:08 PM PST by The Toll
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To: pabianice

After Obama’s done with America, it will be an insult to Hitler to draw a Hitler stash on Obama’s face.

Where was this assclown when the left were doing this to Bush?

Was he asleep during those 8 years?


21 posted on 12/12/2012 2:00:22 PM PST by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: pabianice

“We also have to remember that in this country, the majority rules,” - Lund, article

No, this is a republic and the law, not the majority, rules. The law of our land is political speech is a right.

He is guilty of a civil rights violation and probably assault/battery in my opinion.


22 posted on 12/12/2012 2:00:55 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: History Repeats

One thing about leftists - the truer the statement, the madder they get.


23 posted on 12/12/2012 2:04:00 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

So true.


24 posted on 12/12/2012 2:04:41 PM PST by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: Andy'smom

Yes-I see them at my Post Office set up outside.


25 posted on 12/12/2012 2:06:57 PM PST by funfan
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To: pabianice
"...I think the bigger conversation is why can you not deface the American flag, currency or coinage but you can deface the image of the president?” he asked. “We have laws to respect other rights but not this..."

Damned hypocritical liberal rumpswab.

I live up here in the People's Republic of Massachusetts. I have to walk through scummy places like Cambridge, and see garbage like this:

...or this...

Or crap like this:

I am, as a conservative, expected to walk by this liberal tripe, and not assault them or even confront them.

And I do.

But this infantile liberal twinkie thinks he has a right, and many of his liberal supporters do too, to do what he did.

HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO BET THIS JERK WASN'T DEFENDING "THE IMAGE OF THE PRESIDENT” WHEN BUSH WAS IN OFFICE AND HE PASSED PEOPLE HOLDING POSTERS WITH THE ABOVE IMAGES?

Boy, does this just burn me up. I detest liberalism in all of its facets, and the ball-washers like this turd.

26 posted on 12/12/2012 2:25:42 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: pabianice

Check out the link. The positive story about someone destroying an anti-Obama display was written by someone with the title “Government Editor.” WT#!


27 posted on 12/12/2012 2:39:45 PM PST by kreitzer
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To: pabianice

In Germany, in 1945, after the dust and death had settled from all the bombing and wreckage that the narcissist, Hitler had rained down on the German people; those Germans left alive abhorred themselves and repented in dust and ashes for allowing an imposter to use them to elevate himself in a strange and demented way. - Check on this guy in a few years after we’ve had time to count the ways Hussein has “fundamentally transformed America”. I guess Hitler meant well, in a strange and demented sort of way.


28 posted on 12/12/2012 2:45:27 PM PST by Twinkie (HY)
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To: pabianice

How can he be sure they just didn’t put obama ears on a picture of Hitler?


29 posted on 12/12/2012 2:48:43 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: pabianice
“I think the bigger conversation is why can you not deface the American flag, currency or coinage but you can deface the image of the president?” he asked

Another idiot Democrat who would rather be ruled by nobility.

30 posted on 12/12/2012 2:58:17 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Bathhouse Barry wants YOU to bend over for another four years)
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To: pabianice

Spare us, Lund. I’m sure you were out kicking over tables when GWBush was depicted as Hitler, you skank.


31 posted on 12/12/2012 3:20:47 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: pabianice
“I think the bigger conversation is why can you not deface the American flag, currency or coinage but you can deface the image of the president?” he asked. “We have laws to respect other rights but not this?”

That is because the person sitting in the office is NOT the OFFICE of the Presidency. There have been some real stinkers who sat in that office, and citizens have every right to voice their opinions of the person in office.

“We also have to remember that in this country, the majority rules,” he added. “Even if you don’t agree with the outcome of an election, the majority rules. And I believe it doesn’t matter who is in office, you need to respect the office.

He also doesn't seem to understand the concept of the REPUBLIC. America is not a Democracy, so 'majority rule' is not the way of things. Yes, the office should be respected, but if the person IN that political office is acting in a disrespectful manner toward the office, we have an obligation to point that out, whether we're in the political minority or majority.

This man is from my town, but I don't know him personally. I'm sure he got plenty of support from folks around here though, because for the most part, MA went for Obama.

32 posted on 12/12/2012 3:24:16 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: pabianice

He explains that we have laws protecting the currency and flag, but no law to protect the image of his president? We should make all images of Muslim communist Presidents, especially if they are foreigners and have black skin, holy.

Fatso with the beard in commieland Masshole will beat you up if you don’t worship the image of his messiah. Too bad he did not get his you know what kicked. We call all hope.


33 posted on 12/12/2012 5:23:56 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: pabianice

What I don’t understand is why people still use the legal system to stop people from assaulting them. The legal system, as far as my experience can tell, sucks up money and perpetuates itself with no service(except maybe lip service) to the public it milks.

They should have played the drum solo from “Wipe Out” on his head.


34 posted on 12/12/2012 7:53:59 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (I hope we're ready to get a real candidate next time. C'mon GOP! <BCC><)
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To: SuziQ

“He also doesn’t seem to understand the concept of the REPUBLIC. America is not a Democracy, so ‘majority rule’ is not the way of things. Yes, the office should be respected, but if the person IN that political office is acting in a disrespectful manner toward the office, we have an obligation to point that out, whether we’re in the political minority or majority.”

Problem is; Democrats don’t choose to understand what the Republic is, hence we have Democrats and Republicans. So the Democrats do what democracies do; vote themselves gifts from the treasury till the democracy is broke, but in this case, until the republic is broke.

Seems like most of us where I grew up stopped using “majority rules” in a debate along about 5th or 6th grade. Also explains the maturity lacking in the minds of the liberal Democcrats.


35 posted on 12/12/2012 8:03:16 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (I hope we're ready to get a real candidate next time. C'mon GOP! <BCC><)
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To: Lion Den Dan

Don’t forget the image of a crucifix in a jar of urine that was displayed in an art museum and WAS PAYED FOR BY THE AMERICAN TAXPAYERS!


36 posted on 12/16/2012 6:54:55 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: pabianice
Adding to the insult, Lund said, was that the incident happened on the 70th anniversary of Pearl Harbor. “I had been thinking about that earlier in the day and about the people who died that day in the service of our country,” he added.

Hiding behind our veterans...how pathetic.

37 posted on 12/16/2012 7:03:02 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

“... the incident happened on the 70th anniversary of Pearl Harbor.’”

Is this story a year old?


38 posted on 12/16/2012 7:10:42 PM PST by EDINVA
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