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Lindsey Graham: Obama Needs to “Man Up” on Entitlement Reform
Newsmax ^ | Wednesday, 12 Dec 2012 05:09 PM | Jim Meyers and John Bachman

Posted on 12/12/2012 5:50:28 PM PST by Olog-hai

Sen. Lindsey Graham, a member of the Budget Committee, tells Newsmax he will refuse to approve an increase in the debt ceiling unless a deal is reached on major entitlement reform—and he is convinced House Speaker John Boehner will refuse as well.

The South Carolina Republican also says President Obama should “man up” and create a lasting legacy by saving Medicare and Social Security with those reforms.

And he insists defense spending should not suffer significant new cuts because “there is no Social Security without national security.” …

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: entitlementreform; fiscalabyss; fiscalcliff; lindseygraham
Ain’t they all horse traders.
1 posted on 12/12/2012 5:50:34 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

HAHAHAHAHAHA........HOHOHOHO......OMYGODSTOPITLINDSEY....


2 posted on 12/12/2012 5:52:41 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Olog-hai

That has got to be the very last thing any male wants to hear out of Lindsey Graham.


3 posted on 12/12/2012 5:53:54 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Olog-hai

Old Grape-Nuts Gramnesty flexes his jaw muscles. What a dude!


4 posted on 12/12/2012 5:56:27 PM PST by laweeks
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To: Olog-hai

When Lindsey Graham tells Bathhouse Barry to man-up, I don’t think we want to see what comes next.


5 posted on 12/12/2012 5:57:45 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Olog-hai

PLEASE TELL LINDSEY GRAHAM TO TELL 0BAMA and the REST OF THE TURDS IN CONGRESS ,,,, SOCIAL SECURITY IS NOT AN INTITLEMENT ,,, IT IS EARNED INCOME DEDUCTED FROM WORKING PEOPLES SALARIES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOT IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


6 posted on 12/12/2012 6:04:00 PM PST by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism & Communism are the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: Olog-hai

1. Obama is too much of a sissy to man up.
2. Democrats and some Republicans REFUSE to cut entitlements.

Welcome to Thelma and Louise!

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/obama-administrations-wants-75-of-new-taxes-to-go-to-new-spending/


7 posted on 12/12/2012 6:05:51 PM PST by whitedog57
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To: Olog-hai

Chick fight!


8 posted on 12/12/2012 6:13:09 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Olog-hai

Man up? Man up???? Hahahahaha. Oh, that’s funny. Jay Leno are you listening? Man up, oh brother.


9 posted on 12/12/2012 6:14:20 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: Olog-hai

Twinkie Grahamnesty conveniently forgets that he was part of a GOP majority who ...

A. Failed to make the current tax rates permanent
B. Failed to cut one dime of entitlements

Resign, cotillion queen, you are Liberal hypocrite.


10 posted on 12/12/2012 6:15:51 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Olog-hai; All

And we peed and moaned over Todd Akin?

Lindsey Graham wouldn’t know how to man up if a thousand Illegal Aliens showed him how.


11 posted on 12/12/2012 6:20:17 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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To: Olog-hai; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows
Lindsay (related?)


12 posted on 12/12/2012 6:25:38 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Olog-hai

“Man Up”

Impossible.

13 posted on 12/12/2012 6:30:31 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Revolting cat!; upchuck
He's so rugged!
14 posted on 12/12/2012 6:49:04 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Olog-hai

The little girl Lindsey would never know it happen.


15 posted on 12/12/2012 6:51:10 PM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: Olog-hai

Hearing “Man up” from the likes of Lindsey Graham has got to leave a mark. HAHAHA!!!


16 posted on 12/12/2012 6:51:57 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Olog-hai

He’s not going to “man up” on ANYTHING. He has never really been a MAN in his whole career. Voting “Present” on 99% of every vote he ever did is NOT being a man. On the cliff situation, Nasty Poolousy and Dingy Harry are carrying his water while he jets around the Country, lying his soul to a charred cinder in front of brainless leach sychophants, or playing golf, or ANYTHING other than actual effort for the good of the Nation.

For Grahamnesty to say things like that just proves that he has NO clue as to the unfeeling, conscienceless, amoral reptile he (and we) are dealing with.


17 posted on 12/12/2012 6:56:07 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: Bryanw92

Post # 5 was exactly what I was thinking.


18 posted on 12/12/2012 6:57:13 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Olog-hai

Hussein is not, and never will be, a man.


19 posted on 12/12/2012 7:05:21 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Lionheartusa1
By its very definition, Social Security is an entitlement. There is also no vault of “your money” somewhere. ALL of the direct deposit checks handed out today are financed via payroll taxes or borrowed and added to the national debt. Is there more “morality” towards a SS beneficiary who paid SS taxes during their working years vs. an illegal who is getting Food Stamps and unemployment? You bet. But let’s stop playing games here. The business of America used to be business. Today, the business of America is Entitlements. 70% of all Federal dollars spent are for entitlements. It makes me sad to see people here on FR of all places who refuse to deal with it.
20 posted on 12/12/2012 7:07:05 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Olog-hai
Well, I have to give him some credit for schooling that Brit-twit gun control advocate Piers Morgan on CNN last night...

(10:31 mark here)

21 posted on 12/12/2012 7:18:37 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo (I prefer liberty with danger to peace with slavery, IXNAY THE TSA!)
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To: Olog-hai; alarm rider; Alex1977; at bay; Babsig; BILL_C; bnelson44; ColdOne; DesScorp; G.Love; ...
So one wimp said to the other wimp*...

Uber RINO Lindsey Ping
"Republican by day, Democrat by night."


Want on or off this ping list?
Just FReepmail me.

h/t to martin_fierro for the graphic

"Wimp" is code for, well, you know.

22 posted on 12/12/2012 8:25:02 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: SkyPilot
are you a govt employee?..on disability?...getting a fat govt pension?..or maybe your spouse?...one of those retire at age 40 pensions?....

decisions have been made by millions to continue to work and pay taxes in private business knowing that SS would be there....

in my situation, I get no defined pension from my work even after 35 yrs or so....I get only whatever I've been able to save....

SS is my retirement....

I'd agree to indexing...index govt pensions with SS....sounds fair to me.......

we've got govt workers retiring at age 40 or so and some double and triple dipping and our govt officials think its fair to take away the measly SS checks for the rest of us?????

23 posted on 12/12/2012 9:12:09 PM PST by cherry
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To: SkyPilot
are you a govt employee?..on disability?...getting a fat govt pension?..or maybe your spouse?...one of those retire at age 40 pensions?....

decisions have been made by millions to continue to work and pay taxes in private business knowing that SS would be there....

in my situation, I get no defined pension from my work even after 35 yrs or so....I get only whatever I've been able to save....

SS is my retirement....

I'd agree to indexing...index govt pensions with SS....sounds fair to me.......

we've got govt workers retiring at age 40 or so and some double and triple dipping and our govt officials think its fair to take away the measly SS checks for the rest of us?????

24 posted on 12/12/2012 9:13:31 PM PST by cherry
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To: Olog-hai
President Obama should “man up”

Not an easy thing for the curtain hanging, Islam loving, umbrella challenged Kenyan.

25 posted on 12/12/2012 9:17:33 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Olog-hai

HaHaHa, LOL, Lindsey Graham needs to “man-up” first and before he tells any other man to “man-up”! Obama looks like Hulk Hogan in his prime next to Lindsey... Obama is going to use his bully pulpit, get used to it.


26 posted on 12/12/2012 9:33:44 PM PST by Imperialist
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To: Olog-hai

This has nothing to do with Obama. It’s the opening salvo of Lindsay’s 2014 primary campaign. He knows he’ll face a serious Tea Party challenger and he knows that, in conservative South Carolina, he’ll be in trouble. He’s trying to pull a Romney and move sharply to the right, hoping the voters have short memories.


27 posted on 12/12/2012 10:12:46 PM PST by Eagle Forgotten
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To: cherry
To answer your question, I am retired military, for which I receive a pension. I don't even mind calling it an "entitlement" as well.

And, if anyone here wishes to say I and other veterans don't deserve it, that's fine with me. As I said in my previous post, you can compare the "morality" of one government payment to another. We could compare Somali "refugee" who automatically qualifies for housing, food, and SSDI vs. an FBI agent I know who was severely wounded in the line of duty. Who wins that argument?

If I were to argue what was "promised" me vs. what is reality today, I would win the argument. I was promised health care and dental care for me and my family for life when I joined the military. Not only was it in the recruiting brochures printed at the time, it was spoken to at every chain of command and on the floor of the Senate and House. I have a $2,000 dental bill and a $700 medical bill sitting on my desk from just this month that belies that promise. A Medal of Honor recipient (Col "Bud" Day) was forced to sue to the US Govt for reneging on their promises for health care treatment. Eventually, the courts decided to screw us veterans anyway. How's that for betrayal?

However, I don't wish to become a circus clown in the arena for the Nasty Pelosi's of the world, pitting one group against another. But, when the subject of Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security comes up on this board, the long knives come out every time. Why? Fear. Fear that "mine" will be scaled back and "theirs" will increase. I won't play that game. I'll rely on God alone, not make government my god.

Having said all of that, it still does none of us any good to dance around the campfire on Free Republic and pretend that Social Security is not an entitlement (as another poster suggested). Read the very definition of entitlement.

For SS recipients, my father is get SS. He is over 80, and receives much more than he ever paid "in" the system. Good for him, and bad for my children and grandchildren. They will never get SS. Neither, I believe, will I. So, be grateful for what have received.

If SS had been left alone, and the actual money not spent, and Disability payments completely left off the coffiers, then SS would be solvent today. We get the government we deserve, and none of the above came to fruition. SS is bankrupt (the IOUs in there that pledge the "full faith and credit of the United States" are a joke).

28 posted on 12/13/2012 3:48:55 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Today the average Social Security Receipient who worked and paid into it , then filed for the full benifit at age 65 is only receiving one third of the money they paid into the system . The average SS payment is $1,270.00 before Medicare is deducted .

Now by the Governments definition ,, entitlements are Welfare , Food Stamps , Housing assistance and now included is Soc. Sec. ,, all of which are paid for by the tax payer . Social Security which continues to be deducted from ones earnings does not belong in that group and that’s what I’m saying . If the Fed. Govt. has to borrow money to pay for Soc. Sec. benifits that’s not the fault of the wage earner who now only receives a third of his benifit ,, he didn’t raid the fund .

Perhaps the word ENTITLEMENT is being misused when being inclusive of Welfare , Food stamps etc. but Soc. Sec payouts should not be included in that group .


29 posted on 12/13/2012 4:50:18 AM PST by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism & Communism are the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: All

lindsey sounds like a gay leprechaun


30 posted on 12/13/2012 5:27:15 AM PST by 09Patriot (your freedom to be you, includes my freedom to be from you.--Wilkow)
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To: Olog-hai

1. Obama is too much of a sissy to man up.
2. Democrats and some Republicans REFUSE to cut entitlements.

Welcome to Thelma and Louise!

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/obama-administrations-wants-75-of-new-taxes-to-go-to-new-spending/


31 posted on 12/13/2012 7:15:55 AM PST by whitedog57
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