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Gunman, victims identified in Clackamas mall shooting(OR)
kptv.com ^ | 12 December, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 12/12/2012 6:03:00 PM PST by marktwain

CLACKAMAS, OR (KPTV) -

A 22-year-old man from southeast Portland parked his car outside Macy's, rushed into the Clackamas Town Center mall food court and opened fire, killing two people Tuesday, investigators said.

Jacob Roberts' AR-15 rifle then jammed, but he was able to get the gun working again. He shot and killed himself, sheriff's deputies said.

Steve Forsyth, of West Linn, and Cindy Yuille, of northeast Portland, were killed by Roberts, authorities said. A third shooting victim, Kristina Shevchenko, survived and is being treated at Oregon Health & Science University hospital.

Deputies said Roberts stole the rifle used in the shooting from someone he knew. During the shooting rampage, he wore a hockey-style facemask, a load-bearing vest and carried several fully-loaded magazines.

Investigators have since served a search warrant at Roberts' home on Southeast 84th Avenue, and on his car, a 1996 Volkswagen Jetta found in the mall parking lot, but they have not released details about what they found.

One neighbor told FOX 12 she saw Roberts leave his house quickly while carrying a guitar case around 1 p.m. Tuesday.

Dispatchers started receiving 911 calls about the shooting around 3:30 p.m. Roberts parked his car in the mall's south lot near Macy's, then went through Macy's toward the food court, deputies said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: banglist; clackamas; forsyth; gunfreezones; guyfawkes; guyfawkesmask; jacobroberts; mask; maskedman; medicalmarijuana; or; pot; shoppingmall
I am sure more details will emerge as time progresses. I understand that the mall was a defenseless victim zone.
1 posted on 12/12/2012 6:03:06 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

A safe bet....he has been on meds for the past five years? Any takers?


2 posted on 12/12/2012 6:27:45 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: marktwain

His AR-15 jammed. Didn’t the fellow who shot up the movie theater in Colorado have an AR-15 that jammed? Is this a problem with the rifle?

And God bless the poor victims of these crazy people.


3 posted on 12/12/2012 6:35:10 PM PST by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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To: marktwain
his car, a 1996 Volkswagen Jetta

Figures. Look at the freak!

4 posted on 12/12/2012 6:38:01 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Want to bet he was an Obama supporter.


5 posted on 12/12/2012 6:47:18 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: marktwain

I’m guesing that he did NOT vote for Romney.


6 posted on 12/12/2012 6:56:40 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Want to bet he was an Obama supporter.

Pierced ears, driving an imported car and using a stolen firearm to indiscriminately kill? Could it be any other way?

7 posted on 12/12/2012 7:09:15 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: JT Hatter
Only two things could happen, A double feed caused by one or both of the top lips of the mag have been bent. The other relates to a carbon build up inside the bolt and ring alignments.
8 posted on 12/12/2012 7:10:45 PM PST by Domangart
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To: Domangart

I bought a Colt AR-15 and ammo last year. Haven’t fired it yet. I thought it was a pretty good rifle, but I don’t know much about them. Hearing about these jams is worrisome. But mine is pristine, so I should be OK?


9 posted on 12/12/2012 7:18:23 PM PST by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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To: Alaska Wolf

If he didn’t have the Jetta, three people would still be alive.

If he didn’t buy Gasoline for the Jetta, three people would be alive today.

If he didn’t have the money to buy Gasoline for the Jetta, three people would be alive today.

Paging Bob Costas, please pickup the White Courtesy Phone.


10 posted on 12/12/2012 7:24:24 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (As they say in China, erections have consequences...)
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To: Alaska Wolf

>> his car, a 1996 Volkswagen Jetta
>> Figures. Look at the freak!

What if it were diesel?

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11 posted on 12/12/2012 7:27:14 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: marktwain
The MSM employees said that he wore a "hockey-like face mask;" does that mean it was really one of these?

If so that means this is the same dirty tricks the skid marks on Journalism's shorts ("reporters") used when describing the 1960s and 1970s "anti-war" demonstrators' "red, blue, and yellow protest banners." Those were Viet Cong flags.

12 posted on 12/12/2012 7:44:20 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: JT Hatter

AR-15’s need lubricant and proper cleaning. Keep up with those and use good magazines (not cheap ones with crap springs) and it is a fine rifle. You should always cycle firearms magazines to keep the springs healthy, but this is especially true for the AR in my experience.

If you don’t think you can keep up with the AR you should buy a good AK variant. There is nothing wrong with them and you are better admitting that obsessive cleaning is not your thing and getting something that will work for you. What you sacrifice in accuracy you will more than make up for in reliability. They are much easier to maintain and if you forget to lube it for a day, week, or month it will still work.


13 posted on 12/12/2012 7:50:31 PM PST by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: JT Hatter
Hearing about these jams is worrisome.

First thing, guns don't jam, they can have a malfunction - jam goes on toast. Second, learn to properly clean your rifle, keep the bolt and bolt carrier clean. Having said that, I have run over 500 rounds through my AR-15 rifles in competitions without a malfunction. Use good magazines and keep them clean. I have been using Magpul P mags and I think they function great. Use good ammo as well. One of my rifles has had well over 5000 rounds through it, and it still runs great. At least it did until I lost it and all of my other weapons in that tragic boating accident.

14 posted on 12/12/2012 7:54:39 PM PST by JD91
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To: marktwain

“Jacob Roberts’ AR-15 rifle....”

It seems to me that yesterday, it was reported that the rifle he used was stolen.


15 posted on 12/12/2012 7:57:39 PM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: JD91

Thanks. Good info and advice.

Tragic boating accident. Let me guess, you were duck hunting in your canoe....


16 posted on 12/12/2012 8:06:41 PM PST by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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To: JT Hatter

Yup, I got to stop doing that;)

One more thing - never fill up the mag full. Put 28 in a 30 round mag.


17 posted on 12/12/2012 8:19:36 PM PST by JD91
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To: marktwain
During the shooting rampage, he wore a hockey-style facemask, a

load-bearing vest

NO!!! A deadly load bearing vest!!! My Gosh!!! That's ALMOST a "bullet-proof vest", isn't it? Yeah!! That's what we will make it!!! The deadly bullet proof load bearing-vest!!!

Yup, he could kill a hundred people and not get killed himself with the deadly load bearing vest!!

18 posted on 12/12/2012 8:20:22 PM PST by China Clipper ( Animals? Sure I like animals. See? There they are, right next to the potatoes!)
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To: JT Hatter

It’s not a problem. The CO shooter did use a 100 rnd mag, which can have feeding problems, depending on the quality of manufacture. It is best to avoid using soft point bullets, however.


19 posted on 12/12/2012 8:22:26 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: JT Hatter

I noticed that too.

Just wild speculation here: Im guessing the AR was not shooting Hornady ammo, prob Walmart Tula or another Russian brand. Those are cheap (20 something are not rich) and likely steel. These are known to fail in some ARs.


20 posted on 12/12/2012 8:28:01 PM PST by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Hell NO !


21 posted on 12/12/2012 8:58:29 PM PST by MtnMan101
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To: marktwain

shooting oneself with an AR-15 is a bit of a feat.


22 posted on 12/12/2012 9:15:46 PM PST by Ymani Cricket ("It is my experience that Senators focus only on pleasing those who fund their campaigns" Obi-Wan)
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To: JT Hatter
Don't drop the mag. Make sure the rounds are in the back and not creeping forward. Keep the bolt clean. Look at the rings. The space where they meet should not be a straight line. Carbon build up is not good. Do this and you can fire 10,000 rounds without a problem.
23 posted on 12/12/2012 9:18:02 PM PST by Domangart
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To: marktwain

Or you can just buy a new Sig556 that is as accurate as a good AR and as reliable as a good AK. Unlike the AR, it doesn’t dump waste into the chamber by design.


24 posted on 12/12/2012 10:41:40 PM PST by trailboss800
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To: Domangart

Thanks everyone. I’m going to print this out.

I better check the ammo. I bought about 5,000 rounds from different places off the net.


25 posted on 12/12/2012 10:51:20 PM PST by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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To: Gene Eric
What if it were diesel?

At $4.10/gal., foreign and hard starting in cold weather? Why bother?

26 posted on 12/12/2012 11:33:41 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: marktwain
During the shooting rampage, he wore a hockey-style facemask

Interesting wording. Hockey-style? It's either a hockey facemask or it's something else.

Hmm,mmm,mmm... wonder what it could be, that the press wouldn't want to say?

27 posted on 12/12/2012 11:39:27 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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1. drives a Volkswagen Jetta
2. carrying a guitar case
3. double earrings
4. effeminate looking

I suspect he’s a self loathing sodomite


28 posted on 12/13/2012 5:52:34 AM PST by BO Stinkss
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To: JT Hatter

> an AR-15 that jammed? Is this a problem with the rifle?

I noticed the same thing. My experience has been that most magazine fed semi-autos work better with one or two rounds less than what they claim (say 13 rounds in a 14 round magazine or 28 rounds in a 30 round magazine). My bet is that they loaded them up fully (and maybe even one or two rounds extra) without trying them for function.


29 posted on 12/13/2012 7:53:37 AM PST by jim_trent
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