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Replacing Speaker Boehner - Here's how and why it has to be done.
American Spectator ^ | 12.12.12 | PETER FERRARA

Posted on 12/12/2012 7:07:59 PM PST by neverdem

John Boehner is a good man in a hard place. He has served in public office as a lifelong conservative, not a RINO. His position on the Obama tax increases has been better than almost any other Republican who has been speaking out lately, given the Obama/Democrat election victories -- close loopholes and deductions for $800 billion in new revenue over a decade, but no increases in rates.

But face it. Boehner is no match for Obama on the national stage. He cannot press the economic arguments articulately. He does not have a compelling personality. Obama is running circles around Boehner with outrageous falsehoods, and Boehner cannot raise a peep to challenge him. Boehner has managed to allow Obama to turn the Bush middle class tax cuts, passed by a Republican majority Congress over 10 years ago, into the Obama middle class tax cuts, supposedly opposed by the House majority Republicans.

Reagan-era Democrat Speaker Tip O'Neill used to say Reagan's budgets were dead on arrival. He used to counter Reagan proposals by saying they just could not get through the House. After the Reagan landslide reelection of 1984, O'Neill responded that the people had elected a Democrat House majority too, and they had as much right to pursue their policies in the House as Reagan had to pursue his policies as President. And O'Neill had a personality that was easily dismissive of questioners. But...

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Anyone can serve as Speaker!!!

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Steve Forbes could be named Speaker of the House. Or Larry Kudlow. Or Steve Moore. Or Paul Gigot. Or Grover Norquist. Or Rush Limbaugh. Or Sean Hannity. Or Mark Levin. Someone who can talk, explain, tutor, and at last who knows what he is talking about. How about R. Emmett Tyrrell? Hell, they could even bring Gingrich back...

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 112th; 113th; boehner; fireboehner; johnboehner; ohio; spectator
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Why not Newt? He knows the deal. We need a Tip O'Neill of our own!
1 posted on 12/12/2012 7:08:01 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I say, elect Romney as House Speaker.


2 posted on 12/12/2012 7:15:05 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: neverdem

Paul Ryan. Gloves off. He ‘lost’ so, nothing to lose. It’s time to play hard ball.. Call the media ‘government propagandists’, call the Dems out on voter fraud, Shove Pelosi’s talking points down her throat, illustrate with charts HOW unions bankrupt entire States like California, etc.. It’s either that or we’ll never see a Republican President again in our lifetimes.


3 posted on 12/12/2012 7:16:25 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: neverdem

Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4)


4 posted on 12/12/2012 7:16:25 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: neverdem
How many hours a day does Boner spend in a tanning booth?
5 posted on 12/12/2012 7:17:00 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Glenn Beck!!


6 posted on 12/12/2012 7:17:41 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: neverdem

Used to be the the CPUSA and their homosexual COMINTERN buddies would meet in secret.

Now they are in your face, large and in charge, from the WH to the local apparatchik at the county commission.

Any attempt to suppress domestic communism is now branded as hate speech or domestic terrorism.

The Republicans are useless.

It’s time to start developing a strategy to cripple the marxists, and it must be done totally outside of the electoral process through acts of civil disobedience and counter propaganda, with sympathetic State Governors and legislators assisting in the process.

All else fails, the military can fire the scumbags wholesale in all three branches, provisional military government for six months, then new elections (no incumbents need apply) only taxpayers and veterans enfranchised, all amendments repealed except the Bill of Rights, dueling legalized for for members of the House and Senate


7 posted on 12/12/2012 7:17:41 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Usagi_yo

utterly priceless ~ how about we elect Romney king of somalia or something and send him packing


8 posted on 12/12/2012 7:17:41 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Sarah Palin!!


9 posted on 12/12/2012 7:18:13 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Rome2000

Democrats are merely the communist faction of the Washingtonians.

Republicans are the blue blood country club banker faction of the Washingtonians.

Nothing comes from DC other than higher taxes and more restrictions on our freedoms.

European Kings and Queens moved their courts to different parts of their realms.

The productive class are now all slaves to DC and the Federal apparatchiks in Maryland and Virginia.

Lincoln murdered the Republic and waged war on the Sons of the Founders.

The greatest threat to the Liberty and Prosperity of the productive class are not a bunch of demented ragheads in the middle east, but the Federal apparatus.


10 posted on 12/12/2012 7:19:30 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: neverdem

In the first place, Boner is not a conservative. But I think we all agree that he needs to be replaced.

Why all this talk about bringing in an outsider as Speaker? It may be constitutional, but it would be unprecedented in anyone’s living memory, and probably counterproductive, as GOP House Members would inevitably resent it, and the Democrats and the press would play on that.

It’s difficult, because the more conservative and honest congressmen usually haven’t had much time in office. But there must be numerous candidates who would be better than Boner.


11 posted on 12/12/2012 7:21:14 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: neverdem

12 posted on 12/12/2012 7:25:27 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Usagi_yo

“I say, elect Romney as House Speaker.”

Horse manure... Why would we want a left leaning RINO? If he was worth a sh!t he would have been president.


13 posted on 12/12/2012 7:29:10 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: muawiyah

utterly priceless ~ how about we elect Romney king of somalia or something and send him packing
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I say have him take over the FULLY privitized Postal Service as it emerges from its upcoming bankruptcy. Once, as part of the bankruptcy process, the USPS has shed its huge numbers of unneeded workers, closed its unnecessary offices, redone its agreements with the postal unions and shed its pension obligations it will be “lean & mean” and ready to actually compete for its business.

Either that or just let him go back to his private life.


14 posted on 12/12/2012 7:29:35 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: Perdogg

>> Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4)

Yes!


15 posted on 12/12/2012 7:29:38 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: muawiyah

Well, one could argue that Romney carries a mandate equal to Obama’s.


16 posted on 12/12/2012 7:30:14 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: Slings and Arrows

LOL! If you can get a PBS TV station now, the Rolling Stones are on live now. A bunch of bands are doing a concert for Sandy victims.


17 posted on 12/12/2012 7:32:05 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
THE FEDERALIST - that series of 35 essays by James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and John Jay, as published newspaper explanations in favor of the Constitution, contains the following statements which both the President and Boehner might read and consider:

"An elective despotism was not the government we fought for; but one in which the powers of government should be so divided and balanced among the several bodies of magistracy as that no one could transcend their legal limits without being effectually checked and restrained by the others." - Federalist Papers, No. 58, 1788

"This power over the purse may, in fact, be regarded as the most complete and effectual weapon with which any constitution can arm the immediate representatives of the people, for obtaining a redress of every grievance, and for carrying into effect every just and salutary measure." - Federalist Papers, No. 58, 1788

"The propensity of all single and numerous assemblies (is) to yield to the impulse of sudden and violent passions, and to be seduced by factious leaders into intemperate and pernicious resolutions." - Federalist Papers, No. 62, February 27, 1788

"Every new regulation concerning commerce or revenue; or in any manner affecting the value of the different species of property, presents a new harvest to those who watch the change and can trace its consequences; a harvest reared not by themselves but by the toils and cares of the great body of their fellow citizens. This is a state of things in which it may be said with some truth that laws are made for the few not for the many." - Federalist Papers, No. 62, February 27, 1788

"It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice, if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood; if they be repealed or revised before they are promulgated, or undergo such incessant changes that no man who knows what the law is today can guess what is will be tomorrow." - Federalist Papers, No. 62, February 27, 1788

Note particularly the following words of wisdom from Federalist No. 63:

"As the cool and deliberate sense of the community ought, in all governments, and actually will, in all free governments, ultimately prevail over the views of its rulers; so there are particular moments in public affairs when the people, stimulated by some irregular passion, or some illicit advantage, or misled by the artful misrepresentations of interested men, may call for measures which they themselves will afterwards be the most ready to lament and condemn. In these critical moments, how salutary will be the interference of some temperate and respectable body of citizens, in order to check the misguided career, and to suspend the blow meditated by the people against themselves, until reason, justice, and truth can regain their authority over the public mind?" - Federalist Papers, No. 63, 1788

18 posted on 12/12/2012 7:41:24 PM PST by loveliberty2 ( -)
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To: neverdem
Excellent post Neverdem, thanks. I posted to my facebook account to. Lets get this out, I so want him to go so bad I can’t even say.

We (republicans/conservatives) NEED SOMEONE THAT CAN SPEAK.

Jesh it’s just so frustrating. I am getting to the point I don’t even want to look at the man.

I know he’s up against the Lamestream media, but we have people that can break through and get our message out. Let’s use them!

19 posted on 12/12/2012 7:44:13 PM PST by Coffee_drinker (The best defense is a strong preemptive strike.)
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To: neverdem

Boehner is no match for Donald Duck and about as easy to understand.


20 posted on 12/12/2012 7:54:39 PM PST by Venturer
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To: babygene

Aint that the truth.

Romney sucks.


21 posted on 12/12/2012 7:56:31 PM PST by Venturer
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To: neverdem

Is Bob Michel still alive? The dhims would LOVE him... not that boner is anymore effective.


22 posted on 12/12/2012 8:05:06 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: neverdem
the next step according to the law books, as can be read in the civics books for those who can still read, is for the Democrat Senate to act on the House passed bill, and then for the differences to be ironed out in Conference. President Obama, we will call you when we are ready for you, to sign the bill that the Congress of the United States has passed.

That's what I've been saying. Marginalize Obama by dealing with the Senate first. Make Reid deal with Obama, not Boehner.

-PJ

23 posted on 12/12/2012 8:08:06 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Usagi_yo

Not as tan - but way too much like Boehner!


24 posted on 12/12/2012 8:13:16 PM PST by cricket
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Louis Gohmert!!


25 posted on 12/12/2012 8:14:45 PM PST by flowergirl
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To: House Atreides

now that’s a really good idea!


26 posted on 12/12/2012 8:16:30 PM PST by flowergirl
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To: neverdem

As for naming a Speaker who is not a member of the House ...

The novelty of such an appointment would give us at least a few days “grace” with the traitorous and corrupt media.

Newt Gingrich, for example, could land some mortal blows against the federal beast and give some monumental speeches about Constitutional observance before the media had a chance to shut him down, if they could.


27 posted on 12/12/2012 8:22:19 PM PST by DNME (Without the Constitution, there is no legitimate U.S. government. No exceptions.)
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To: neverdem

Yes, Newt - Newt - Newt.......


28 posted on 12/12/2012 8:25:21 PM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: neverdem

>>> John Boehner is a good man in a hard place. He has served in public office as a lifelong conservative, not a RINO.

He referred to Obamacare as “The Law of The Land”

I don’t give a damn if he was the 2nd coming of Ronald Reagan up to that point in his political career... (which he WASN’T!)

This cave of his was the LAST straw for me.

He’s a hob-knobbing conservative back stabbing RINO Coward!

Time to make his big tent an itsy bitsy one that the independant party will laugh at!


29 posted on 12/12/2012 8:28:07 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: neverdem

Walter Williams for Speaker of the House.


30 posted on 12/12/2012 8:30:49 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Coffee_drinker

Evertime I hear Boner speaking it’s like his demeanor and half the time his vocals sound like he’s apologizing for having to speak in the first place. If he’s not crying.


31 posted on 12/12/2012 8:33:08 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: neverdem
OBAMA BOEHNER MTG
32 posted on 12/12/2012 8:33:13 PM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: neverdem

Thanks, but I can’t; studying for an exam. I’ll check it out on Hulu or Youtube.


33 posted on 12/12/2012 8:38:50 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: loveliberty2

Thanks for those quotes from the Federalist Papers.


34 posted on 12/12/2012 8:48:36 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chatter, chatter, chatter. Just replace him with someone who will really get the job done.


35 posted on 12/12/2012 9:19:27 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: neverdem

John Boehner is a good man in a hard place.


Lost me right there. Any good man would have NEVER agreed to the bill that put him in the hard place.

Boner shot his foot off and now he is trying to figure out how to put it back on.


36 posted on 12/12/2012 9:21:12 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Rome2000

Provisional military government? No, thanks. I don’t want the military involved in governing the country for any length of time.


37 posted on 12/12/2012 10:12:12 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: neverdem

This is an entertaining fantasy and nothing more.

The Republicans in the House are apparatchiks first and conservatives second (if at all). They will all dutifully fall into line behind Boehner.


38 posted on 12/12/2012 10:46:37 PM PST by Eagle Forgotten
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

golf course man, golf course.
That and bending over for obammy.


39 posted on 12/13/2012 3:32:26 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: House Atreides
USPS doesn't have any pension obligations ~ they buy their employees into the Federal Government's retirement system ~ thought you knew that.

That cr*p about the $5 billion a year for pensions was about a payment concocted to balance the budget (See how well that worked) back in 2006. It was to be set aside somewhere(?) to pay for any postal retiree medical insurance premiums 75 years in the future!

In short it was and is total BS ~ NOBODY DOES THAT!

40 posted on 12/13/2012 4:03:06 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Usagi_yo

NO!


41 posted on 12/13/2012 4:49:50 AM PST by winkadink (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: Slings and Arrows

42 posted on 12/13/2012 5:21:18 AM PST by 09Patriot (your freedom to be you, includes my freedom to be from you.--Wilkow)
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To: Cicero

"Why all this talk about bringing in an outsider as Speaker? It may be constitutional, but it would be unprecedented in anyone’s living memory, and probably counterproductive, as GOP House Members would inevitably resent it, and the Democrats and the press would play on that."

Why do we always have to base our decisions upon what the media will supposedly say? They are going to attack us no matter what we say or do. Why not live a little, for a change?

43 posted on 12/13/2012 8:09:35 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Eagle Forgotten
This is an entertaining fantasy and nothing more

True ... but it sure is fun to imagine the stunned emotional reactions -- the screaming (literally)-- of the Democrat Socialists and their seriously flawed messiah if Gingrich was elected speaker? Talk about a thrill up the leg ...

44 posted on 12/13/2012 8:20:40 AM PST by glennaro
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To: 09Patriot

...and his Boehner loves being stroked.


45 posted on 12/13/2012 10:01:45 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: neverdem

Newt would be an excellent choice. He has the ability to take it to Obama!
I also liked the author’s description of McConnell, who also needs to be replaced. If either of these “men” had the “best interests”of the country primary in their minds, they would both offer to quit right now.


46 posted on 12/13/2012 10:40:04 AM PST by vette6387
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To: neverdem

Newt would be an excellent choice. He has the ability to take it to Obama!
I also liked the author’s description of McConnell, who also needs to be replaced. If either of these “men” had the “best interests”of the country primary in their minds, they would both offer to quit right now.


47 posted on 12/13/2012 10:40:06 AM PST by vette6387
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To: neverdem
Thanks. "Those quotes from the Federalist Papers," along with all the other wonderful principles essential to real liberty contained in that set of essays, should be required study in every high school and college in America.

As we know, Mr. Jefferson and the Board of Visitors of his University of Virginia ordered that they should be required study at that place of learning.

Just imagine, if every American citizen understood that individual liberty, under a system of laws protecting that liberty, was their inheritance, or their acquired right as an American citizen!

Such understanding would empower citizens to reject the clever attempts of unprincipled men and women who seek power for themselves at the expense of their fellow!

Witness today's events!!!!

48 posted on 12/13/2012 1:02:47 PM PST by loveliberty2 ( -)
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To: neverdem
better than almost any other Republican who has been speaking out lately

And if a more conservative Republican did give a good speech, do you think anyone outside that room would ever hear of it? Boehner is simply the most conservative person the old Media will tolerate, and only because he is speaker.

Of course, the major reason for this is that the idiot Republicans have not figured out the new Media. Sure, there are a few folks at PJMedia who do a good job, but every major Republican speech or even simple pronouncement should be on the web instantly. The RNC should have it's own media arm to make sure that it's all available. Instead, they rely on the old Media.

Relying on the old Media is just like sheep rely on the farmer. It never results in the sheep being free, and only works somewhat until the farmer gets hungry.

49 posted on 12/13/2012 2:42:06 PM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
It’s time to play hard ball..

That's why Newt is the better choice. They fear him (Rino's) so I doubt the majority will pick him and it would ensue ANOTHER attack of lies about him supported by the 'rats, also, as Obama would be put against the wall as The Constitution runs through Newt's veins.

50 posted on 12/14/2012 2:57:10 AM PST by presently no screen name
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