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Wisconsin: Walker says he won't pursue 'right-to-work' legislation
pioneer press ^ | 12-12-12 | ap

Posted on 12/12/2012 8:06:10 PM PST by TurboZamboni

Walker was asked Wednesday about whether he would push to make Wisconsin a right-to-work state on the heels after his proposal in 2011 that effectively ended collective bargaining for most public workers.

Walker said that introducing a right-to-work bill could lead to massive protests like what happened last year over the collective bargaining bill. He said those protests and the recall elections that followed created uncertainty for job creators.

Walker said, "The last thing I want to do is create the sense of uncertainty out there."

Walker stopped short of saying he would veto a right-to-work bill should it pass.

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: unions; walker; wi
mob rule rules?
1 posted on 12/12/2012 8:06:17 PM PST by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni

Just keep sending us those jobs Wisconsin. Indiana thanks you.


2 posted on 12/12/2012 8:10:04 PM PST by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Governor Walker is right. Gotta choose your own battles.


3 posted on 12/12/2012 8:11:48 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: TurboZamboni

Why yes, we mustn’t have protests. Why, if they feel that strongly about it we better give in to them!


4 posted on 12/12/2012 8:18:14 PM PST by Reagan‹berAlles
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To: TurboZamboni

WI’s problem is the mess in their state senate, the infamous fleebaggers scenario.

They simply don’t have the numbers unlike Michigan’s overwhelming, veto-proof GOP senate 26-12.

Besides, Walker already ripped apart collective bargaining which is a whole lot more damaging to the union’s power than a simple RTW.


5 posted on 12/12/2012 8:19:01 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: quantim

Yes. Ending the state witholding for union dues was the precedent, let the unions fight in other states now for their un-lives.


6 posted on 12/12/2012 8:24:50 PM PST by txhurl (Zero on America: Drive it like you stole it)
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To: Reagan√úberAlles

“Why yes, we mustn’t have protests. Why, if they feel that strongly about it we better give in to them!”

That’s it in a nutshell.


7 posted on 12/12/2012 8:27:11 PM PST by MichaelCorleone ('We the People' can and will take this country back...starting today.)
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To: quantim

What Governor Walker did to public sector unions is much more damaging than RTW. Private sector unions are dying on there own no reason to fight that battle now.

I have to say though I grew up in Michigan and always dreamed of a day Michigan would be RTW never thinking it would happen, but Snyder proved himself a hero.


8 posted on 12/12/2012 8:27:47 PM PST by Conservative Actuary
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To: TurboZamboni

Six months ago, WI was ground zero in the fight.

They need a rest. I do not begrudge Walker some breathing room.

Time for other GOP Govs to step up and do their part.


9 posted on 12/12/2012 8:29:57 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: exit82

Agreed.


10 posted on 12/12/2012 8:32:26 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TurboZamboni

That’s OK. He successfully defended a major beachhead in Wisconsin. Sit tight and let businesses take advantage, show some growth. Let the spotlight move elsewhere for a moment. Get reelected, then move on RTW.


11 posted on 12/12/2012 8:36:50 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: TurboZamboni
Walker stopped short of saying he would veto a right-to-work bill should it pass.

He wouldn't. If RTW happens in Wisconsin, it will happen Michigan-style: A bill rushed through the State legislature, giving the Liberals and unions no time to stop it.

Governor Walker would have been stupid if he announced that he supported RTW. Better to let his enemies think they have him scared.

12 posted on 12/12/2012 8:45:34 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Yes, terrorism works.


13 posted on 12/12/2012 8:52:59 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: exit82
Six months ago, WI was ground zero in the fight. They need a rest. I do not begrudge Walker some breathing room.

Agreed. I also concur with Gov. Walker's reasoning about "creating uncertainty", coupled with the fact that WI Republicans don't have a decided majority in their legislature.

Walker's earned his stripes. Time for other Governors to earn theirs.

14 posted on 12/12/2012 8:54:21 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: TurboZamboni
Walker said that introducing a right-to-work bill could lead to massive protests...who is it that keeps yapping about some behaviors not being "the American way"? - oh yeah, President Obama.....
15 posted on 12/12/2012 8:56:18 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: TurboZamboni

LOL!
With last year’s legislation, Wisconsin doesn’t need any “right to work” law.


16 posted on 12/12/2012 8:56:23 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: exit82

He definitely earned a break.

But the Democrats do not take breaks. They hit and hit and hit and hit again. Then hit more. That is why they win.

I do not see this as caving by any means, but a constant and remorseless pressure must be applies, otherwise the Dems will regain lost ground.


17 posted on 12/12/2012 9:01:07 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Norm, I was just thinking of you for some reason, and here you are!!! Good to see you!!!

The Dems for all their foibles have remarkable party discipline—always on message, regardless of whether the message is garbage or not. And they defend their own all the time.

Sometimes I feel we are herding cats on our side. Leaders need to rise—and soon—and take the battle to the Communist Dems.

Our present “leadership” is pathetic.

Take care.


18 posted on 12/12/2012 9:08:15 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Windflier

Windy, glad we are on the same page. Good to see you tonight.

Keep the faith.


19 posted on 12/12/2012 9:09:52 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: TurboZamboni

What he already achieved was extraordinary and he expended a lot of political capital to do it. I don’t fault him for not waging this battle at this time.

Besides he probably could not get it passed through his current Senate - a 1 vote majority including a Senator who voted against the first round of legislation.


20 posted on 12/12/2012 9:12:44 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: TurboZamboni

I’m seriously confused. After Walker fought his battle to deny certain bargaining tools to save the budget, I now just find out WI is still a not a right to work state unless you join the union?

So what was the point of that battle if you’re going to surrender the war?


21 posted on 12/12/2012 9:13:28 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: exit82

I feel loved ;)
Been posting less lately as mu disgust with my ‘fellow conservatives’ is about at the breaking point.

I just posted this a few min. ago on another thread regarding Tea arty leadership, but it applies to your statement completely...

A word of warning everyone...

Make sure that whatever person/people start leading the parade under the “Tea Party” banner ARE IN FACT CONSERVATIVE and NOT GOP PLANTS.

It’s time for people to start paying serious attention and it’s time to root out ‘Tea Party “Leaders” that are not who and what they appear to be.

I’m not saying this guy is a plant. Not at all. I’m just saying don’t get sucked in to a psyop campaign like many did in the primaries.

PAY ATTENTION!

The one opportunity the TEA Party has to fail is by allowing the GOP to infiltrate it more than it already has. Purging ourselves of the opposition should be Job 1 before things get too far to change...and thus we simply continue as a powerless branch at the command of the GOP misleadership.


22 posted on 12/12/2012 9:15:30 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Having been on the formative boards of a TEA Party and a 912 group, please take care that NO leader is selected who is a teacher, a fireman or a LEO of any type, indeed any and all members of any government union. Why do I suggest that no such be allowed in leadership positions?

Can we say CONFLICT OF INTEREST, fellow FReepers?

Assuming honorable intentions on the part of conservative teachers, firemen, LEO’s and other government employees, we are going to have to cut said union jobs by very substantial amounts.

Don’t put a fellow conservative in a position which guarantees not only conflict of interest situations, but also results in substantial cognitive dissonance stress as well.

Those conservatives I listed above deserve better, and does the nation and our descendants.


23 posted on 12/12/2012 10:00:58 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: GladesGuru

Here’s what concerns me. And I know it’s a legit issue as I’ve see it from the inside in my years working as a journalist/reporter/editor in other areas (not TEA specific)

First, the Original TEA movement suddenly had a bunch of ‘name’ Republicans suddenly start fundraising orgs and foundations. Those orgs use all the same sources of funding, organisers, infrastructure people et all.

One does not get away from a problem by employing/using the VERY PEOPLE who created it.

Second, such types owe and are owed quid pro quos out the yang. And you can best believe they will be called on to collect.

Third, I will go to my grave believing that the main reason the GOP caves so easily is that since they are so free with their allegiances, all their deepest secrets are widely known within the ranks and as such, are open to blackmail.

is my firm belief that any leader that does not actively and often denounce the policies et all of the opposition, for the reasons above, IS the opposition and I defy anyone to logically argue otherwise. (not you personally, just a general statement.


24 posted on 12/12/2012 10:10:00 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

I agree with your clearly stated concerns in your post 24.


25 posted on 12/12/2012 10:22:53 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: GladesGuru

What really torques me is that already half of conservativedom is falling into the trap. I see post after post calling for current GOP pols and activists to ‘lead’

Hello people? What exactly do you believe you get when you simply change the hair color on the dog?

It doesn’t suddenly make a Basset out of a Doberman. You get a doberman with new hair color.

Likewise, you get a committed GOP agent running your attempt to overthrow the power of the GOP. Guess how that will turn out...

But as my faith wanes, I still hope that the adults remaining in the Conservative Right will have the guts to slap down the whining idiots that still scream for some famous Republican to lead them.

Famous EX republicans are fine, since ex-(modern)republicanism is the heart and soul of the TEA party. We just need to ‘trust but verify’. Some actor with a chimp said that once. He was right.


26 posted on 12/12/2012 10:44:01 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: TurboZamboni

Yes he will, eventually.


27 posted on 12/13/2012 2:07:10 AM PST by gotribe
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To: TurboZamboni
Republicans control both Senate/House in Wisconsin. Perhaps they could (in secret) formulate legislation and suddenly ram it through both Houses and put it on Gov. Walker's desk before unions have time to cause massive protests. Just a thought. Gotta a keep the ball rolling...We got the big mo.

Do it like Michigan did. Not sure if Wisconsin has the "5 day rule" like Michigan? If not? Git 'er done!

28 posted on 12/13/2012 4:49:46 AM PST by donozark (I was planning to spend Christmas in Damascus, until I read Isiah 17:1...)
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To: exit82

We have a far bigger issues to deal with here in WI that will likely be as nasty as the collective bargaining fight:

1. Another State Supreme Court election in 2013.

2. A fight over the rules of judicial boundries here in the State in the future. Yes everything that passed last year was a huge victory legislatively, but most of it was struck down by the liberal Dane County courts.

The Republicans here need to tackle reforming the court system of appeals before they could move on to anything.


29 posted on 12/13/2012 6:51:50 AM PST by MNlurker
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To: MNlurker

Thanks for the local take on things, MNlurker.

When we look back on this period of history, I think June, 2012 in WI will be seen as the political Gettysburg of the Left and the Dems.

We have to keep fighting, in spite of the setback of the (rigged) November elections.

Our country is worth it.


30 posted on 12/13/2012 6:59:45 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Exactly.


31 posted on 12/13/2012 7:03:00 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: quantim
Besides, Walker already ripped apart collective bargaining which is a whole lot more damaging to the union’s power than a simple RTW.

He has seriously wounded the beast, but it still has some strength left. Public sector union membership is in drastic decline, as are the dues going to union coffers. Better to let it bleed out a bit, and finish it off when it's weaker.

32 posted on 12/13/2012 7:31:29 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: quantim
WI’s problem is the mess in their state senate, the infamous fleebaggers scenario.

Plus, since the recall elections, the Dems have a 1-vote majority in the state senate. This will change in January, when the winners of the November elections take their seats and the Repubs resume having a majority (18-15).

After the 2014 elections, we might see something happen.

33 posted on 12/13/2012 7:38:12 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Yes, there is potential there in WI but analyzing purple states in a flux is just maddening over the decades watching this stuff.

WI might have a majority into the next session but it’s hardly a mandate like Michigan’s. Not enough to risk for the WI state GOP.

“Slowly we turned...”


34 posted on 12/13/2012 6:24:36 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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