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55 Reasons Why California Is The Worst State In America
TEC ^ | 12-12-2012 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 12/12/2012 9:37:46 PM PST by blam

55 Reasons Why California Is The Worst State In America

By Michael Snyder
December 12th, 2012

Why in the world would anyone want to live in the state of California at this point? The entire state is rapidly becoming a bright, shining example of everything that is wrong with America. It is so sad to watch our most populated state implode right in front of our eyes. Like millions of Americans, I was quite enamored with the state of California when I was younger. The warm weather, the beaches, the great natural beauty of the state and the mystique of Hollywood all really appealed to me. At one point I even thought that I wanted to move there. But today, hordes of Californians are racing to get out of the state because it has become a total nightmare.
It is the worst state in the country in which to do business, taxes were just raised even higher, unemployment is more than 20 percent higher than the national average and the state government is drowning in debt. Meanwhile, poverty, gang activity and crime just seem to get worse with each passing year. On top of everything else, the insane politicians in Sacramento just keep on passing more laws that make the problems that the state is facing even worse. Unfortunately, what is happening in California may be a preview of what is coming to the entire nation. The old adage, "as California goes, so goes the nation", has been proven to be true way too many times.

In dozens of different ways, the state of California is showing the rest of us what not to do. Will we learn from their mistakes, or will we follow them into oblivion? Please share the list below with as many people as you can. In addition to a large amount of new research, this list also pulled heavily from one of my previous articles and from outstanding research done by Richard Rider. The following are 55 reasons why California is the worst state in America...

1. One survey of business executives has ranked California as the worst state in America to do business for 8 years in a row.

2. In 2011, the state of California ranked 50th out of all 50 states in new business creation.

3. According to one recent study, California is the worst-governed state in the entire country.

4. Thanks to Proposition 30, California now boasts the highest state income tax rate in the nation.

5. Even though California just raised taxes dramatically on the wealthy, state revenues are falling like a rock. State revenue for November 2012 was 10.8 percent below projections.

6. California has the highest sales tax rate in the United States.

7. California has the 8th highest corporate income tax rate in the country.

8. California has the highest "minimum corporate tax" in the country. Each corporation must pay at least $800 to the state even if a corporation does not make a single dollar of profit.

9. California is tied with New York for the highest gasoline tax rate in the country.

10. California is the only state in America that taxes carbon emissions.

11. The state of California issues some of the most expensive traffic tickets in the nation. This is another form of taxation.

12. As of October, only Nevada and Rhode Island had higher unemployment rates than California.

13. The unemployment rate in California is more than 20 percent higher than the overall unemployment rate for the rest of the nation.

14. The state of California requires licenses for 177 different occupations (the most in the nation). The national average is only 92.

15. California teachers are the highest paid in the nation, but California students rank 48th in math and 49th in reading.

16. California accounts for 12 percent of the U.S. population, but a whopping 33 percent of Americans that receive TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families) live there.

17. Only the state of Illinois has a lower bond rating than the state of California does.

18. Including unfunded pension liabilities, the state of California has more than twice as much debt as any other state does.

19. Average pay for California state workers has risen by more than 100 percent since 2005. That is good news for those state employees, but it is bad news for the taxpayers that have to pay their salaries.

20. More than 5,000 California state troopers made more than $100,000 last year.

21. One highway patrol officer ended up bringing home almost $484,000 in 2011.

22. One state psychiatrist in California was paid $822,000 in 2011.

23. Since 2007, the number of children living in poverty in the state of California has increased by 30 percent.

24. Sadly, an astounding 60 percent of all students attending California public schools now qualify for free or reduced-price school lunches.

25. The American Tort Reform Association has ranked the state of California as the worst "judicial hellhole" in America.

26. Businesses all over the state of California are being absolutely suffocated to death by ridiculous regulations.

27. According to the Milken Institute, operating costs for California businesses are 23 percent higher than the national average.

28. According to CNN, the state of California had the worst "small business failure rate" in America in 2010. It was 69 percent higher than the national average.

29. The number of people unemployed in the state of California is roughly equivalent to the populations of Nevada, New Hampshire and Vermont combined.

30. Residential customers in California pay about 29 percent more for electricity than the national average.

31. So many poor people and illegal aliens have taken advantage of the "free" healthcare at emergency rooms that many of them have been forced to shut down in California. As a result, the state of California now ranks dead last out of all 50 states in the number of emergency rooms per million people.

32. Political correctness is totally out of control in California.

33. One California town is actually considering making it illegal to smoke in your own backyard.

34. The traffic around the big cities is horrific.

35. Los Angeles

36. San Francisco

37. Oakland

38. Stockton

39. Sacramento

40. The rampant gang activity in the state gets even worse with each passing year.

41. Crime continues to rise all over the state.

42. Just recently, the city attorney of San Bernardino, California told citizens to "lock their doors and load their guns" because there is not enough money to pay for adequate police protection any longer.

43. The murder rate in San Bernardino is up 50 percent this year.

44. In Oakland, burglaries are up 43 percent so far this year.

45. Today, Oakland is considered the 5th most violent city in the United States.

46. There have been more than 250 gold chain robberies in Stockton, California just since the month of April.

47. In Stockton, the police budget cuts got so bad that the police union put up a billboard at one point with the following message: "Welcome to the 2nd most dangerous city in California. Stop laying off cops."

48. Jerry Brown.

49. The absolutely insane California state legislature.

50. Wildfires.

51. Mudslides.

52. The state of California lies directly along the infamous "Ring of Fire". Approximately 90 percent of all the earthquakes in the entire world happen along the Ring of Fire and the "Big One" could hit the state at any moment.

53. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, approximately 100,000 more people moved out of the state of California in 2011 than moved into it.

54. During 2011, more than 58,000 people moved from California to the state of Texas.

55. Overall, the state of California has experienced a net loss of about four million residents to other states over the past 20 years.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: california; debt; taxes

1 posted on 12/12/2012 9:37:53 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Well it’s absolutely beautiful where I live and the food is wonderful. Oh and Darrell Issa is my representative. I can’t really help it if the rest of the state is bonkers.


2 posted on 12/12/2012 9:48:58 PM PST by douginthearmy
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To: blam

” During 2011, more than 58,000 people moved from California to the state of Texas. “

Yup. Just a like diseased jackass, they bring their own libtard ideas that ruined their state in the first place.


3 posted on 12/12/2012 9:51:03 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: douginthearmy

My wife and i being 5th generation So. Californians haven’t fouond any place in the US that even comes close and we will die here!!!!


4 posted on 12/12/2012 10:07:57 PM PST by dalereed
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To: max americana

bump!


5 posted on 12/12/2012 10:12:27 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: dalereed

“...haven’t fouond any place in the US that even comes close and we will die here!!!!”

I’d love to move out of this hell hole state if only there was a better one to live in.


6 posted on 12/12/2012 10:14:23 PM PST by running_dog_lackey
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To: blam

Crime is certainly up in spots, but I’m not sure statewide. Los Angeles has had year over year double digit drops in crime for quite few years running, and the crime rate is where it was in the 1950’s. Our government certainly sucks, illegal aliens have overrun huge swaths of the state, but if you can afford to live in a decent neighborhood, you can still enjoy a quality of life that would be hard to top anywhere else. Of course, with every passing year, that becomes an increasingly big “if”.


7 posted on 12/12/2012 10:16:07 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: blam
2. In 2011, the state of California ranked 50th out of all 50 states in new business creation.

From the 2011 Kauffman Index of Entrepreneurial Activity:

"The states with the highest rates of entrepreneurial activity were Arizona (520 per 100,000 adults), Texas (440 per 100,000 adults), California (440 per 100,000 adults), Colorado (420 per 100,000 adults), and Alaska (410 per 100,000 adults). The states with the lowest rates of entrepreneurial activity were West Virginia (150 per 100,000 adults), Pennsylvania (160 per 100,000 adults), Hawaii (180 per 100,000 adults), Illinois (200 per 100,000 adults), Indiana (200 per 100,000 adults), and Virginia (200 per 100,000 adults)."

8 posted on 12/12/2012 10:26:12 PM PST by wideminded
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To: douginthearmy
"Darrell Issa is my representative."

Did he hold any free public meetings this last election cycle?

9 posted on 12/12/2012 10:28:57 PM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: blam
...And there is one reason why California despite that big long list is such a great place to live.

Multiple choice question: How's that weather where you are?

[] Cold with snow.
[] Cold with no snow.
[] Cold is not the word for it, try sub-zero.
[] Cold but it's shoveling my driveway that is the problem.
[] Cold and sick of calling friends in California in the dead of winter only to find out they had to get out of the pool to answer the phone.


10 posted on 12/12/2012 10:31:23 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: blam

Completely uprooting one’s life and moving to a different state can be hard for some, especially when your friends, social life, and extended family are left behind. It’s easier for say college students or young professionals, but once people settle down, moving can be almost traumatic. Change really can be hard. Being born and raised in California I know how badly it’s fallen. Quaint cities near my hometown are overrun with illegals, traffic is bad, and the cookie-cutter urban sprawl continues into what used to be calm agricultural areas. My parents and siblings all still live there, and when asked about the things in the article, they usually say something along the lines of we know, but we tolerate it because California offers other things that offset the bad stuff. I visit from time to time, but always breathe a sigh of relief when leaving.


11 posted on 12/12/2012 10:31:59 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: blam

but you can still walk around San Fransicko town buck naked and (despite a recent board of supervisors measure that barely, so to speak, passed anyway...) ...nobody expects the police to give you any real trouble, especially since they can’t respond to all the burglaries and car thefts already.....AND you can strut your stuff naked in the streets for sure with 50,000 other hunks in the world-famous annual Gay Pride Parade, and even go home to see yourself on TV!
Oh yes, that same wise board of supervisors is getting ready to pass another ordinance, this a “homeless bill of rights”... specifically authorizing the street bums to continue pissing or crapping on the sidewalks ... and SF promises free medical care to all comers, particularly if your behavior gets you AIDs, which is widespread in town for obvious reasons...... AND.... SF has marijuana stores all over the place...just walk in and they’ll sell you any of 300 blends of maryJane...and the welfare is easy and generous, and there are do-good charities all over the place to give you pretty much whatever you need anyway ..so you can use your welfare check to buy booze or more drugs..

certainly all that really GREAT stuff makes up for those 55 petty little bad things you listed!?


12 posted on 12/12/2012 10:32:22 PM PST by faithhopecharity (--)
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To: blam

#56 Because they screwed up Colorado! /s


13 posted on 12/12/2012 10:33:14 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: blam

>”12. As of October, only Nevada and Rhode Island had higher unemployment rates than California”<

I think the reason for that is that Harry Reid lives in Nevada and Peter Griffin lives in Rhode Island.


14 posted on 12/12/2012 10:34:53 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (They Live, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses...)
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To: douginthearmy

enjoy paying the extra taxes for crap.....and the legislature is sufficiently commie dominated that the state will soon look worse than Greece.


15 posted on 12/12/2012 10:37:59 PM PST by Nifster
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To: dalereed

that you will......and you will be over run by the mexicans coming north and the gangs that are associated with some of the worst drug cartel activity....just because a place is pretty does not mean it is livable. the truth is long ago California lost its luster and became over run with some of the very wort of the worst


16 posted on 12/12/2012 10:40:09 PM PST by Nifster
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To: wideminded

that just means that california has a lot of venture capitalists spending money out here....you know on great things like Solyndra and high speed rail to bakersfield


17 posted on 12/12/2012 10:41:43 PM PST by Nifster
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To: blam

Let me guess that the entitled class of ‘Pornians haven’t noticed anything amiss yet.


18 posted on 12/12/2012 10:49:52 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: blam

But we know where to keep our snow where it is easy to get to but not in the driveway.

Most people from here would wear a coat today because the high was only 65o.

19 posted on 12/12/2012 10:52:35 PM PST by ThomasThomas
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To: blam
I don't see the entry decrying the onerous gun control.
20 posted on 12/12/2012 10:57:26 PM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: blam

“I thought I’d died and gone to Hell. But I was only in El Segundo.”
Little Bill


21 posted on 12/12/2012 11:14:41 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: ThomasThomas

I lived in the Castaic area for a couple of years. I remember driving into the mountains during the “winter” and seeing many pickups loaded with or being loaded with snow to take to the valley to make snowmen - enjoying the winter without having to live through it! Too bad the liberals are in charge.


22 posted on 12/12/2012 11:15:58 PM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: max americana

What makes you think the people that ruined California are from California?


23 posted on 12/12/2012 11:31:10 PM PST by DB
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To: jda

We need to vote them out.....just need more conservatives.


24 posted on 12/12/2012 11:35:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: blam
California finally achieved a 1/1 ratio of net tax producers to takers.

yitbos

Government employees are by definition tax takers.

25 posted on 12/12/2012 11:39:05 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: bruinbirdman

Yep.

Government poduces nothing. That is why all government employees are part of the takers


26 posted on 12/12/2012 11:46:28 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: blam

California Dads failed to assert their balls, which turned the culture effeminate.


27 posted on 12/13/2012 12:56:13 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: blam

Former Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm (D) thought she’d turn Michigan into a California-like state and look where she ended up- At UC Berkely and MSNBC.


28 posted on 12/13/2012 3:12:01 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: wideminded
"The states with the highest rates of entrepreneurial activity were... California (440 per 100,000 adults)

My guess is one of those surveys counts pot farming and one doesn't.

29 posted on 12/13/2012 3:13:08 AM PST by SeeSharp
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To: bruinbirdman
Government employees are by definition tax takers.

I prefer Calhoun's name for them: tax eaters.

30 posted on 12/13/2012 3:18:42 AM PST by SeeSharp
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Ducks let the weather decide where they live; human beings turn up the heat or put on a jacket.


31 posted on 12/13/2012 4:21:45 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: blam

I might get banned but I believe Fr should move to AZ, sure it will cost money, all Jim has to do is just ask.


32 posted on 12/13/2012 4:29:41 AM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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To: All
Greece is one of the most beautiful spots on earth---then came the awakening......they had no money. Greece was being hollowed out from within-----with some 550 govt agencies fully-staffed, but with no discernible purpose. Read on.

California School District Owes $1 Billion On $100 Million Loan
npr ^ | Dec 7, 2012 | Richard Gonzales / FR Posted by Biser

More than 200 school districts across California are taking a second look at the high price of the debt they've taken on using risky financial arrangements. Collectively, the districts have borrowed billions in loans that defer payments for years — leaving many districts owing far more than they borrowed. (Excerpt) Read more at npr.org ...

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In 2010, officials at the West Contra Costa School District, just east of San Francisco, were in a bind. The district needed $2.5 million to help secure a federally subsidized $25 million loan to build a badly needed elementary school. Charles Ramsey, president of the school board, says he needed that $2.5 million upfront, but the district didn't have it. Why would you leave $25 million on the table? You would never leave $25 million on the table.

- Charles Ramsey, school board president, West Contra Costa School District. “We'd be foolish not to take advantage of getting $25 million” when the district had to spend just $2.5 million to get it, Ramsey says. “The only way we could do it was with a [capital appreciation bond].”

Those bonds, known as CABs, are unlike typical bonds, where a school district is required to make immediate and regular payments. Instead, CABs allow districts to defer payments well into the future — by which time lots of interest has accrued.In the West Contra Costa Schools’ case, that $2.5 million bond will cost the district a whopping $34 million to repay.”

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The $822,000-per-Year Bureaucrat and the Death of California
Townhall.com | Daniel J. Mitchell / Posted by Kaslin

Outrageous examples of overpaid bureaucrats:The chief bureaucrat of a low-income California city getting almost $800,000 per year. Cops in Oakland getting average compensation of $188,000. California taxpayers being forced to pay a fired bureaucrat $550,000 for unused vacation time.

(ELSEWHERE A school superintendent in New York raking in more than $500 thousand annual compensation. A Philadelphia bureaucrat, after working only 2-1/2 years, gets a guaranteed annual pension of $50,000 per year. A New York school bureaucrat w/ a $225,000 salary and $300,000 pension simultaneously. A New Jersey Turnpike employee raking in an annual $320,000.)

THERE'S MORE California is in a race with Illinois to see which state can become the Greece of America. The Golden State has a new über-bureaucrat....jaw-dropping details from a Bloomberg report.....More at townhall.com

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A Labyrinth of Govt Fraud----stories like this mean astonishingly easy, massive govt fraud.

REFERENCE Govt officials find 2nd off-the-books bank account / LAT / February 17, 2011

Montebello, Cali govt officials said they discovered yet a.n.o.t.h.e.r secret off-the-books bank account that once contained nearly $1 million in city govt funds. Officials do not know why the secret account was created, why it was never recorded on the city's general ledger or what happened to the govt money that was transferred out. One signator on the secret account was former City Manager Richard Torres. City policy generally requires the treasurer to be a signator, not the city manager. The bank holding the secret account refused to disclose to the city who the other two signators are.

Revelations about a secret Union Bank account follow news of an off-the-books account at Banco Popular discovered earlier....That account contained about $240,000 govt monies; officials also discovered records that indicated tens of thousands of govt dollars had been transferred out. They do not know to whom or why.

City govt's official banker is Bank of the West. Officials have asked for bank statements and records and are hoping to reconstruct what happened. They have also queried every member of the govt finance department to ask if they know of any other off-the-books accounts. The Union Bank account came to light when an employee

spontaneously alerted the finance director. Officials found out about the Banco Popular account when the bank contacted city govt because the account had been dormant for a while.

The news about the secret accounts comes as Montebello struggles to close a deficit that could force officials to make deep service cuts and lay off employees. Criminal probes have also begun in San Bernardino agencies for possible govt fraud.

33 posted on 12/13/2012 4:33:51 AM PST by Liz ("Come quickly, I'm tasting the stars," Dom Perignon)
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To: faithhopecharity

Kind of like “Pacific Heights” writ large. A charming place you can’t bear to part with, but you find yourself sharing it with a psycho monster.
In this case a few million psycho monsters.
Right flight is still just a trickle. And flight won’t fix the problem anyway.


34 posted on 12/13/2012 5:16:49 AM PST by HomeAtLast
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To: blam

Someday soon, this will be America.


35 posted on 12/13/2012 5:52:58 AM PST by Epsdude
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To: dalereed
My wife and i being 5th generation So. Californians haven’t fouond any place in the US that even comes close and we will die here!!!!

Just curious. What is it about that state that makes you want to put with all the crap thrown at you by its government? No scenery or climate, in MYHO, are worth all the financial costs and restrictions on personal liberty.

Or is it an ingrained masochism that guides your life?

36 posted on 12/13/2012 6:49:03 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Arizona has 99% of the weather benefits of California with only a few of the problems on that long list. It’s a little warm in July, true, but San Diego is a fairly short drive if one needs a break. Besides, extreme heat does more to eliminate the homeless from city streets than all the government programs ever devised. :)


37 posted on 12/13/2012 6:59:43 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: blam

DOH! I thought it was a comparison to the other 55 states...


38 posted on 12/13/2012 7:03:47 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (I hope we're ready to get a real candidate next time. C'mon GOP! <BCC><)
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To: max americana

A relative of mine and his friends who live in So CA are talking get-the-hell-out and looking at TX...
Big mistake...unless there’s a lock down at the border, TX will be CA in a few years...a hot, humid CA.


39 posted on 12/13/2012 7:33:25 AM PST by matginzac
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To: douginthearmy

I am currently living in the reddest state in the US. All my representatives are conservative. I’d go back to California’s breathtaking vistas in a heartbeat. There’s more to life than politics. As for energy costs—our electricity and gas bills have been as high as in California. And this is supposed to be an energy producing state!


40 posted on 12/13/2012 7:43:00 AM PST by giotto
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To: Mr. Jeeves
The ocean-front property in California is more scenic.

Even if George Strait has never sung a song about it.

41 posted on 12/13/2012 8:02:49 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: douginthearmy

“Well it’s absolutely beautiful where I live and the food is wonderful. Oh and Darrell Issa is my representative. I can’t really help it if the rest of the state is bonkers.”

Ditto for me and I live in the East Bay in Northern California. I always marvel at these posts. They are usually from people who don’t live here. I really think it’s “penis envy.” Because as bad as everything is here politically, it’s still the best place in the world to live. Today, it’s sunny with the temperature in the high 60’s. So how does that compare with you folks down in Swollen Groin, Texas? Or the Midwest? Do you have the headbolt heaters in your cars plugged in? Got any broken pipes yet?


42 posted on 12/13/2012 10:15:06 AM PST by vette6387
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To: vette6387
I always marvel at these posts. They are usually from people who don’t live here.

I was born less than a mile from the beach in Monterey, California, and lived in my home state for over half a century. In late 2005, I packed up the wife, the kids, our business, and everything we owned, and moved to Texas.

It was the best move I ever made, and I haven't missed California a single day since I've been gone. The California I once loved has been gone for decades. I was homesick for that, long before I left.

43 posted on 12/13/2012 11:34:09 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

“I was born less than a mile from the beach in Monterey, California, and lived in my home state for over half a century. In late 2005, I packed up the wife, the kids, our business, and everything we owned, and moved to Texas.”

Too bad you decided that the move was necessary. I will pay your respects to the Carmel Beach next week when we spend a few days at our second home there. It’s still a wonderfull place in spite of the RATs that run the place. The sadest thing about Monterey County is that it’s the home of Marxist Leon Panetta. Always think about relieving myself when we drive by his “ranch” in Carmel Valley.


44 posted on 12/13/2012 5:44:51 PM PST by vette6387
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To: vette6387

My grandson is about to graduate with a degree in software engineering and he’s talking to a company in Silicon Valley. This grandmother is not real happy about her grandson moving there. I have a really bad image in my mind of the area and if the state of CA is going to end up taking away from him what Obama misses.


45 posted on 12/13/2012 6:04:45 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

“My grandson is about to graduate with a degree in software engineering and he’s talking to a company in Silicon Valley. “

I spent half of my working career in the Silicon Valley. There, it isn’t the politics that drive anything, it’s stock price. The whole place is driven by a boom and bust cycle in the chip-making business. The large customers are all Asian and they make business doubly difficult but make their wishes stick because they have the money. Your grandson will spend his life moving from one company to another, unless he somehow “invents” Unobtanium for some firm and they make him one of the few sacred cows. On the other hand, if he strikes out on his own with some new idea, he could well become a millionaire many times over. I know several who have done just that. Their companies are listed on the NYSE. But it is a crapshoot!


46 posted on 12/13/2012 6:20:11 PM PST by vette6387
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To: vette6387
Is it any place you'd want to send your naive 22 year old grandson?

He did make me feel good when he stated that as a college freshman, he had received all the Obama propaganda that all the other kids had received but he though he's put some "logic" to his decision and he decided to vote for McCain. I don't know what was his logic and I didn't care, I just knew he may be smarter than most college-age youngsters.

He's talking to a company called Kongretate. Do you know anything about them?

47 posted on 12/13/2012 6:29:49 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Oops, it’s Kongregate. Sorry


48 posted on 12/13/2012 6:32:34 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: vette6387
Too bad you decided that the move was necessary.

Huh? I didn't decide to leave my beloved home state. The rats in Sacramento and the illegals decided it for me.

49 posted on 12/13/2012 6:51:21 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Arizona is nice, that’s for sure. But I wonder about those giant rolling dust storms you get and the monsoon humidity. Aside from those weather blemishes it is also a nice weather state.


50 posted on 12/13/2012 10:16:33 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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