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House Conservatives: Blame for Fiscal Cliff ‘Rests Squarely on Boehner’s Shoulders’
Cybercast News Service ^ | December 12, 2012 | Patrick Burke

Posted on 12/12/2012 11:54:45 PM PST by Olog-hai

House conservatives believe there is no good proposal put forth by House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) or President Obama to avoid the so-called “fiscal cliff” and blame for the current Republican position “rests squarely” on Boehner’s shoulders.

“Let’s do something that’s real unusual in this town. Let’s talk about accountability. I don’t care whoever you are. The position the speaker’s in right now—if there’s any blame to be placed, it’s squarely on his shoulders,” said Rep. Jeff Landry (R-La.). …

“There’s no deal on the table from either side that is a good deal for the American people. Not one deal,” said Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) said Wednesday at a press conference with several House conservatives. …

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: boehner; boner; fiscalabyss; fiscalcliff

1 posted on 12/12/2012 11:54:50 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

John Boehner: our bulwark against tyranny.

:(


2 posted on 12/13/2012 12:02:00 AM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: Olog-hai

So Obama is standing there over the corpse of our economy with a smoking gun and points to John Boenher screaming “he did it”, and they’re all buying it.


3 posted on 12/13/2012 12:17:55 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

If you don’t think our feckless GOP and GOP leadership is part of the problem, you’re not paying attention.

Hint: we couldn’t be borrowing 40 cents on every dollar without the House going along with it.


4 posted on 12/13/2012 12:30:58 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Olog-hai
Check this out.
Earlier in his article, Peter Ferrara wrote
Newt Gingrich for Speaker of the House, AGAIN !!!
It's time to put Boehner on the chopping block.
5 posted on 12/13/2012 12:35:19 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: 9YearLurker

The GOP sold Obama the gun without doing a thorough background check.


6 posted on 12/13/2012 12:36:38 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Olog-hai

NO

The “blame” for the fiscal cliff (ie, no deal) lies on the skinny shoulders of the potus

The democrats OWN this one, not the GOP, and anger at Boehner should not cause any republicans or fair minded person to blame John Boehner for failing to cave to obama’s ridiculous demands... $1.6 TRILLION in tax hikes and NO CUTS

How do you “negotiate” with a spoiled 14 yr old having a tantrum?


7 posted on 12/13/2012 1:48:01 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: silverleaf

Agreed. This “blame Boenher” thing is just another example of the freudian projection that has become a time worn tactic of the dem playbook of dirty tricks.


8 posted on 12/13/2012 2:21:37 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Olog-hai

While Landry is complaining about Boehner, I bet at the end of the day, he’ll vote for him to be speaker anyway. What good does it do to complain if your not going to do anything to replace Boehner?(someone other than Boehner, please run for house speaker seat).


9 posted on 12/13/2012 3:00:28 AM PST by MachIV
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To: Olog-hai
“Let’s do something that’s real unusual in this town. Let’s talk about accountability. I don’t care whoever you are. The position the speaker’s in right now—if there’s any blame to be placed, it’s squarely on his shoulders,” said Rep. Jeff Landry (R-La.). …

I do not know what kind of "blame" they are talking about. The "fiscal cliff" is owned by the "tax and spend" Democrats. The Democrats exist to increase taxes (like a fish loves water), and then blame the Republicans.

If the Republicans agree to raise taxes, then there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats in my opinion. When the Republicans in Virginia raised taxes, I moved to "Independent" status; saves me money.

10 posted on 12/13/2012 3:06:56 AM PST by olezip
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To: Tzimisce

Bush, for allowing his tax cuts to contain a sunset. Boehner, for going along with Simpson-Bowles. Us, for being fooled by “compassionate” conservatism. Plenty of blame to go around.


11 posted on 12/13/2012 3:29:04 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: silverleaf

Thought this video was ridiculous (and funny) when it came out. But if we are going to spread the blame it’s time to start blaming parts of the public. Most thought this video was over the top but now I believe a-holes like this shouldn’t get away with it. These are the idiots that will blame only BONER when Obama is the most responsible of the last 4 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxyrBwhTo48


12 posted on 12/13/2012 4:04:26 AM PST by CommieCutter
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To: olezip

Who agreed to the cliff to begin with?
Who has had a year to come up with a plan?
Who just said they would agree to an 850 Billion dollar tax increase?

Yet who is electing Boehner to be Speaker again?

The blame is not on one sholder, there is plenty to go around, but of course the major burden is on the Speaker, and he is a major part of the problem.


13 posted on 12/13/2012 4:34:06 AM PST by Venturer
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To: SpaceBar

obama in front of the press corpse whining about dire consequences if the law HE SIGNED becomes effective, reminds me of the sheriff holding the gun to his own head in Blazing Saddles

remember that scene?


14 posted on 12/13/2012 4:51:38 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Olog-hai

Solution - New Party


15 posted on 12/13/2012 6:25:26 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Olog-hai
Excuse me, this is really stupid. The true blame for this rests on the shoulders of those who made the stupid agreement in the first place and the RATS in the Senate and Barack HUSSEIN Obama.

BHO does not want a solution--he WANTS economic chaos. Blame Obama.

This eating our own has to stop.

16 posted on 12/13/2012 6:29:34 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: SpaceBar

Exactly, and this headline is pure idiocy.


17 posted on 12/13/2012 6:30:18 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: silverleaf
There was a glimmer of hope this am. I was watching CNBC and Cramer said he could detect a shifting of blame to Obama for failing to negotiate in good faith.

OK, I'm a realist and don't expect this to really happen because the MSM is protecting the worst president ever in the history of the US but to blame this all on Boehner is a lie.

18 posted on 12/13/2012 6:35:19 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: silverleaf

The blame for the fiscal cliff lies with the republican house which passed two bills, the democratic senate which passed two bills, and President Obama who signed two bills.

The first bill was a tax bill, which extended the Bush tax cuts for two years, and scheduled them to expire in January of 2013.

A majority of both republicans and democrats voted for this bill: “On December 15, the Senate passed the compromise package with an 81–19 vote, with large majorities of both Democrats and Republicans supporting it.[32] Near midnight of December 16, the House passed it 277–148, with it getting only a modest majority among Democrats and a large majority among Republicans (of the 148 votes against the bill in the House, 112 were cast by Democrats and only 36 by Republicans)”

The second bill was a debt ceiling bill, which increased the debt ceiling, in exchange for mandatory 10% cuts in spending equally spread between non-defense and defense spending.

A majority of republicans supported this in the house and senate. Democrats tied in the house, and a majority voted yes in the senate:
“The House passed the Budget Control Act[1] on August 1, 2011 by a vote of 269–161. 174 Republicans and 95 Democrats voted for it, while 66 Republicans and 95 Democrats voted against it.[14]” “The Senate passed the Act on August 2, 2011 by a vote of 74–26. 6 Democrats and 19 Republicans voted against it.”

President Obama signed both bills.

So, that is who is to blame for the fiscal cliff. It is the result of bills supported and passed by both parties, and signed by the current President.

Sure, NOW they say it is horrible, and must be changed. If so, why did they pass these bills in the first place? Stop passing things that are bad for America. This isn’t a natural disaster, it is an INTENDED result of legislation.

A majority of republicans voted for both these bills in both the house and senate.


19 posted on 12/13/2012 7:37:44 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: olezip

The blame here is that the republican leader is responsible for presenting the republican plan, and there is no republican plan.

If you are going to say that the democrats have a bad plan, you need to put out your own plan. Right now, they can’t vote on the alternate republican plan, because there is no alternate republican plan.

Boehner instead has decided to skip the whole “pass a republican plan”, and go straight to “get an agreement so we only have to vote on that”.

I believe politically his thought is that if they only vote for the compromise, it can’t be held against them by democrats in 2014, and that republicans will be so outraged by the democrats and obamacare by then that they will vote republican no matter what happens.

If they instead pass their own plan, it will have to have significant cuts, especially if they are trying to replace the defense cuts with other cuts. Every cut will be highlighted the next two years to show how republicans hate the poor and middle class, and were willing to destroy them to help keep rich people happy.

Boehner thinks first that this could hurt us, and that somehow if he plays this right, the democrats WON’T just say those things anyway.

Flake appears to be saying that he just wants to stop playing games, and present the actual plan we have, no matter how unpopular it is. Lets vote on it, so we can say we tried, before we compromise.


20 posted on 12/13/2012 8:12:58 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Daveinyork

I was never fooled.

I’ve screaming about this for more than a decade.


21 posted on 12/13/2012 11:29:38 AM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Boehner could have easily outflanked obama by agreeing to “tax the rich”. There simply are not enough of them. Barry needs the middle class tax increases to pay for kenyancare and obama phones. Why the GOP isn’t shouting that into every microphone I have no idea.

This is a real war on the middle class. The GOP needs to join the dims in gutter and fight back with the facts.


22 posted on 12/13/2012 5:12:22 PM PST by lodi90
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