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Concealed Weapon Permits To Hit 1 Million Next Week In Florida
Tampa Bay Times (St. Petersburg Times) ^ | Dec. 13, 2012 | Michael Van Sickler

Posted on 12/13/2012 7:05:25 AM PST by Iron Munro

Sometime next week in Florida, somebody will become the state's 1 millionth holder of a concealed weapons permit, solidifying the state's No. 1 standing in the nation in that category.

Agriculture Commissioner Adam Putnam deemed that was worthy of a news conference Wednesday, flanked by U.S. and state flags.

"I've been asked about our licensing responsibilities as much as any other topic," Putnam said when asked why he touted the 1 million mark.

No doubt, it proves the popularity of a program begun in 1987 at the urging of the NRA, when Florida became the first state to adopt a permit process that at the time was very lenient.

No longer did applicants need to belong to certain professions to own a concealed handgun permit. They had to meet a few requirements, such as being at least 21, a U.S. citizen not to have committed a felony.

Under the leadership of its longtime Florida lobbyist, Marion Hammer, who got the first permit, the NRA has pushed to remove obstacles in getting them. In 1992, for instance, lawmakers removed a requirement that permit holders had to live in Florida.

The easing of barriers didn't come only through legislation. Policies in the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, which began oversight of the program in 2003, have made it easier and faster.

Putnam said it takes applicants about 35 days to get approved now. Before he took office in 2011, it took about 12 weeks.

Since the program was created 25 years ago, only 34,759 applications have been rejected, a rate of 0.015 percent. Voters casting their ballots by absentee or provisional ballots got rejected at a higher rate.

Putnam called the low rejection rate proof of a sound application process, which he said is so rigorous that it discourages those who wouldn't be eligible.

But earlier this year, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported that for people whose fingerprints were illegible, the agency did not complete background checks (now it does).

And because the state agriculture office is not a law enforcement agency, it lacks access to the FBI crime database. That means the state approves applications despite not reviewing data on drug addicts, people with mental health issues, military personnel with dishonorable discharges and undocumented workers.

Putnam said "we have closed the gap" when asked if the department was now reviewing the FBI data.

Grea Bevis, the department's director of licensing, said after the news conference that the agency still does not have access to the FBI information.

"The gap is not completely shut yet," Bevis said.

He said the Florida Department of Law Enforcement is allowed to look at the data and will work with Putnam's agency to make sure that happens early next year.

FDLE Commissioner Gerald Bailey said his agency processed more background checks for firearms on the Black Friday shopping day after Thanksgiving than on any single day in the agency's history.

Putnam did not mention permit holders such as George Zimmerman, who was arrested in the Feb. 26 shooting of Trayvon Martin, or Michael Dunn, who was arrested for the Nov. 23 shooting of Jordan Davis, a Jacksonville teen. He stressed the state's low revocation rate of 0.3 percent and defended a 2006 law that keeps secret the names of permit holders.

"The Legislature made the decision to protect gun owners and we should respect that," Putnam said.

One person who cheered the upcoming milestone was the NRA's Hammer.

"It's great news," she said. "When the number of license holders increase, crime decreases. We have a record number of license holders now, and crime is the lowest it's been in 40 years."

Gun control groups said there's nothing to celebrate.

"Florida's concealed weapons permitting allowed George Zimmerman to carry a concealed weapon in public, and he had a history of violence," said Brian Malte, a spokesman for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "If more guns made us a safer society, then we'd be the safest society on earth. We're not. We're the most lethal."

Licenses per county: The top 10

1. Miami-Dade: 87,959

2. Broward: 77,155

3. Palm Beach: 62,460

4. Hillsborough: 49,582

5. Orange: 45,910

6. Duval: 45,288

7. Pinellas: 39,422

8. Lee: 32,990

9. Brevard: 31,695

10. Volusia: 27,442


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; concealedcarry; firearms; fl; guncontrol; guns
Worth repeating:

"When the number of license holders increase, crime decreases. We have a record number of license holders now, and crime is the lowest it's been in 40 years."

1 posted on 12/13/2012 7:05:28 AM PST by Iron Munro
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To: Iron Munro; GladesGuru
Just a pity that Treyvon couldn't get this memo.

It is also a pity that this bureaucrap isn't a bit more social-network-savvy. He should have put this on Facebook and Twitter, where the young "gangstas" apparently cannot wait to post their pictures and boasts after every outrage.

2 posted on 12/13/2012 7:13:47 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Say, whatever happened to Reggie Love?)
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To: Iron Munro

This is great news! All states should encourage citizens to own guns, and learn how to use them in accordance with the law.


3 posted on 12/13/2012 7:14:50 AM PST by pleikumud
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To: Iron Munro
I'm in Florida and I'm torn between registering with the government and getting a license or not. I hate the idea of them knowing, at some point, I'm pro-gun, I have guns, and I probably have one on me at any given time. At the same time, I want to carry. Anybody else feel that way?
4 posted on 12/13/2012 7:35:00 AM PST by ryan71 (Water, food and ammo.)
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To: ryan71

They probably already know it if you go to a range to shoot.


5 posted on 12/13/2012 7:41:49 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: ryan71

Do you only use cash when purchasing your firearms and accessories?

Face it, if they wanted to, they can find out. Take solace knowing that you are in great company in FL.

Oh, and I couldn’t get through two sentences of this article, with its typical Tampa Bay Slimes anti-gun tilt.


6 posted on 12/13/2012 7:53:04 AM PST by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: Iron Munro

I’m in the middle of teaching a series of NRA instructor courses to a group of law enforcement educators, and happened to flip on the TV just in time to see Commissioner Putnam’s press conference.

He was articulate and presented his case well, despite the efforts the handful of attending goofy-a$$ed, slouching, ill-informed “journalists” trying to trip him up.

He was missing a real opportunity, though. The only one clearly heard was the Commissioner; the questions from the floor were almost unintelligible. He could have had an aide with a microphone wandering through them, and asked them to identify themselves and their employer before they asked a question.

BTW - from the Brady Bunch: “If more guns made us a safer society ... blah blah blah ... We’re not. We’re the most lethal.” A quick check of the NRA magazine’s Armed Citizen column might tell them to whom the lethality is directed.


7 posted on 12/13/2012 7:55:54 AM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: ryan71

>> I hate the idea of [the Gummn’t] knowing ... I’m pro-gun, I have guns, and I probably have one on me at any given time.

Both the internet and Google were first financed by the CIA and NSA - and you are wondering if they know? They know. Lots.


8 posted on 12/13/2012 8:01:33 AM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: stuartcr; ryan71
Or purchase guns, ammo, and accessories via the internet or with a credit/debit card; receive gun/hunting magazines, visit gun related websites, or post on FR that you have a gun.

All it takes is for "them" to spend a little time data mining and putting the pieces together. Lots of things are already in place, which is why when you look at products on the internet or purchase with your credit card at a store, you receive advertisements of like products in the mail and on your computer screen.

Not sure if you've ever used Quicken, but some do in order to budget money/track expenses. Lets say you go to Walmart and spend $300 and buy something from every aisle and then pay with your credit/debit card. If you have Quicken, you can log in as soon as you get home and it will show you to the penny what categories you spent money on: health/beauty, entertainment, food, clothes, etc. Imagine what the government and large corporations doing R&D for advertising has.............especially if you are linked into social media like FaceBook, MySpace, Tritter, etc.

Point being, if they want to know they will.

9 posted on 12/13/2012 8:01:58 AM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: ryan71

Their knowledge can’t stop a lead projectile traveling at over 1000 fps.


10 posted on 12/13/2012 8:35:44 AM PST by GnL
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To: Repeat Offender

I agree


11 posted on 12/13/2012 8:36:51 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Iron Munro

Man, all those dims in Blowhard County have permits!


12 posted on 12/13/2012 9:03:46 AM PST by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: ryan71

I’m hoping and waiting for Virginia to get concealed carry w/o license. They’ve already got open-carry. It would be great if you could just carry with maybe a flannel shirt or jacket on.


13 posted on 12/13/2012 9:18:00 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: QBFimi

I had the opportunity to see Adam Putnam in person introducing Mitt Romney at a rally here in Tampa a couple weeks before the election. He’s fantastic, articulate, smart, and young. I definitely think he’ll be going places in the RPOF, and maybe beyond.


14 posted on 12/13/2012 9:49:42 AM PST by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: ryan71

We outnumber the anti 2A groups and the govt. By a lot. Have no fear, get your permit and be proud of it.Let the govt.know that you are another freedom loving citizen that wishes to take care of himself.Gun rights have taken big steps forward in recent years.Those who are afraid of the govt. knowing who they are will also be afraid to use their weapon if they need to.
There is much truth to the saying, When it is time to bury ‘em, it will also be time to dig them up.


15 posted on 12/13/2012 10:17:53 AM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Quickgun

You’re right. I’m getting it.


16 posted on 12/13/2012 10:42:58 AM PST by ryan71 (Water, food and ammo.)
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To: ryan71; All

By posting this on freerepublic, you have already “outed” yourself far more than getting a CCW would.

Unless extreme measures are taken, you do not have any privacy anymore. Florida does not require any information about gun models or serial numbers. *Those* are what you should worry about giving out.


17 posted on 12/13/2012 12:13:42 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Iron Munro; Travis McGee; Joe Brower
BUMP & a BANG!
18 posted on 12/13/2012 4:01:06 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Best news I've heard all week (although the recent ruling in Illinois is good too).

In your faces, gun-grabbers. One million. Choke on that.

Florida Freeper

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

19 posted on 12/13/2012 6:02:18 PM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Best news I've heard all week (although the recent ruling in Illinois is good too).

In your faces, gun-grabbers. One million. Choke on that.

Florida Freeper

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

20 posted on 12/13/2012 6:03:20 PM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Best news I've heard all week (although the recent ruling in Illinois is good too).

In your faces, gun-grabbers. One million. Choke on that.

Florida Freeper

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

21 posted on 12/13/2012 6:04:25 PM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Joe Brower

As long as Zimmerman is persecuted it will always be ONE short of the million.

Every Florida permit holder is at risk and a target until Zimmerman is cleared and the state prosecutors are pursued on charges.


22 posted on 12/13/2012 6:20:53 PM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: no one in particular
Wow, cool -- a three-round burst!
23 posted on 12/13/2012 6:59:58 PM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: George from New England
Zimmerman will be exonerated. Of course, then he gets to watch his knot for the rest of his life, in case one of "Holders's people" decides to take matters into their own savage hands.

The prosecutors, as always, will suffer no repercussions at all for their obvious persecution of an innocent man and waste of the taxpayer's dollars.

Welcome to the land of the free.

24 posted on 12/13/2012 7:03:04 PM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Joe Brower

Good grouping.


25 posted on 12/13/2012 7:44:28 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Joe Brower; Iron Munro; GladesGuru; ryan71; Quickgun; marktwain; M Kehoe
"...Zimmerman will be exonerated. Of course, then he gets to watch his knot for the rest of his life, in case one of "Holders's people" decides to take matters into their own savage hands..."

Well, he can run-away-and-hide, which sucks for his family, or, he and his family can disappear, which is do-able.

He's welcome in my neighbourhood anytime ................................................... FRegards

26 posted on 12/13/2012 8:21:24 PM PST by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: Joe Brower
In your faces, gun-grabbers. One million. Choke on that.

Where's the "like" button when you need it! I LIKE it! As a matter of fact, I like it so much, you should post it three times! Oh, you did! :)

27 posted on 12/14/2012 4:53:09 AM PST by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Bushbacker1
"you should post it three times! Oh, you did! :)"

Actually, the FR site does that free of charge, apparently when you post to a large number of people. Between my RKBA list and my Florida list, that's over 850 names. This bug is what's been keeping me from pinging my lists more. I see the same bug biting other folks who ping large lists.

It has something to do with how this website processes such large transactions. FR didn't use to have this problem; now it's a big one.

28 posted on 12/14/2012 5:31:17 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: ryan71

In my state here in the Deep, Deep, South, one could safely assume that just about everyone owns some type of gun. More households own guns than don’t. I decieded years ago not to hide like a mouse in fear. I do excercise my rights.


29 posted on 12/14/2012 6:24:30 AM PST by A. Patriot (Re-electing Obama is like the Titanic backing up to hit the iceberg again.)
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To: Iron Munro
Concealed Weapon Permits To Hit 1 Million Next Week In Florida

Illinois, this is your future, Bwa-ha-ha!

(Moore v. Madigan happy dance.)

30 posted on 12/14/2012 7:10:34 AM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: Iron Munro

Next need for FL, as well as the rest of the country: rid the ban on teachers and employees of schools who have CC permits carrying their guns on property. It would not hurt to do the same at all federal and state buildings. Do the screenings, fine, but allow those who show permits to pass.


31 posted on 12/14/2012 2:00:21 PM PST by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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