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Boehner: If Obama Won't Cut Spending, Then No Deal (vudeo)
live.wsj.com ^ | 12/13/2012 1:03:11 PM0:25

Posted on 12/13/2012 12:06:08 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 112th; bho44; boehner; economy; fiscalcliff; taxandspend

1 posted on 12/13/2012 12:06:12 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Let’s see how long you keep that up Boner.


2 posted on 12/13/2012 12:07:35 PM PST by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: History Repeats

I wonder what idiotic concessions the Rats may bargin with. A ceiling on Fed hiring in 20 years from now??


3 posted on 12/13/2012 12:10:29 PM PST by Gasshog
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To: Gasshog

MSM already bludgeoning him with polling data showing there is not a single cut which gains a majority of public support.


4 posted on 12/13/2012 12:14:45 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Republicans are fools to think the Dems will cut spending in exchange for tax hikes. We tried this repeatedly in the 80s and 90s during the Reagan-Bush years. In each and every single instance this was done, the tax hikes sure as hell materialized but NEVER any spending cuts, not a penny. This is the reason why we have the Norquist tax pledge to begin with.


5 posted on 12/13/2012 12:16:02 PM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Simply cutting spending will only give the congress critters shelter for another year, it will not solve anything. The next budget cycle, they will just fill up the buckets again. The only hope to solve this is to eliminate bunches of worthless, nonproductive federal agencies.


6 posted on 12/13/2012 12:16:07 PM PST by vet7279
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Just freeze spending and make the tax cuts permanent.
7 posted on 12/13/2012 12:18:17 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
MSM Democrat Propaganda officials already bludgeoning him with polling data showing there is not a single cut which gains a majority of public support.

Leaders lead and don't follow the herd or polls.... Not that we have any leaders in Washington D.C., but just a comment.

8 posted on 12/13/2012 12:20:50 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“MSM already bludgeoning him with polling data showing there is not a single cut which gains a majority of public support.”

Which is exactly the problem. The majority of people want to cut spending, but don’t want to cut anything specific. We are a nation of children.


9 posted on 12/13/2012 12:23:29 PM PST by henkster ("The people who count the votes decide everything." -Joseph Stalin)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I need to find out why the House cannot just pass an AMT patch and pass the Bush era cuts and send it over to the Senate?


10 posted on 12/13/2012 12:25:09 PM PST by DOGHEAD
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To: Las Vegas Ron

At this point I’d take the continuation of the Bush cuts up to the $250K level that Obama is asking for—then only approve drastically cut budgets for the next two years.

That way the GOP gets all the cuts it can, doesn’t sign on to any hikes at all—and it still controls the country’s spending destiny.

No more negotiations with Obama, he’ll just kill them in anything they do together.


11 posted on 12/13/2012 12:34:25 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Just freeze spending and make the tax cuts permanent.

It does no good to say "make the tax cuts permanent".

That would require a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate -- which we don't have.

The absence of a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate is why the Bush tax cuts were temporary in the first place.

The House can vote to extend the Bush tax cuts for up to ten years, however.

12 posted on 12/13/2012 12:35:13 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yeah, right.


13 posted on 12/13/2012 12:35:37 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is a no win. The dems purposefully want all tax cuts to expire so obama can pass obama-cuts next year (one option if pubs cave sufficiently) or no cuts. Either way they get what they want. They want more not less spending.


14 posted on 12/13/2012 12:36:02 PM PST by plain talk
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To: plain talk

I agree.

B. Hussein Obama created the Fiscal Cliff as a bargaining chip to take away the Constitutional duty of the US House to control the purse strings of the US Federal Government.

By forcing Boehner to give up on future National Debt Ceiling Control, Benghazi-Coward B. Hussein Obama will have effectively bypassed the US House for the next 4 years.

There will be NO need to get US House approval on any Federal Spending, and Harry Reid’s Senate will continue to refuse to pass a Federal Spending Budget.

Commune Obamanation will thus continue its headlong race to the bottom of the National Debt Pit.

By caving-in to Obama, Boehner will become Obama’s best friend forever. Well, at least for the next 4 years.

Then Obama will write his tell-all book on how EASY it was to dupe Boehner, and I wouldn’t be at all surpised if Boehner starts sobbing again at that time.

BTW, Boehner must be really stupid.


15 posted on 12/13/2012 12:42:36 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Mere words.


16 posted on 12/13/2012 12:42:41 PM PST by lurk
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To: 9YearLurker
At this point I’d take the continuation of the Bush cuts up to the $250K level

I'm guessing you make less than 250k a year.

17 posted on 12/13/2012 12:51:05 PM PST by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: okie01
The House can vote to extend the Bush tax cuts for up to ten years, however.

That would help immensely no doubt.

I was suggesting what should be done, not what could be accomplished.

But then, we are assuming anyone really wants to fix this mess.

18 posted on 12/13/2012 12:54:16 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: plain talk
This is a no win. The dems purposefully want all tax cuts to expire so obama can pass obama-cuts next year (one option if pubs cave sufficiently) or no cuts. Either way they get what they want. They want more not less spending.

Actually if we go off the fiscal cliff, there will be automatic cuts to Defense and other agencies that many Democrats do not want and no authorization for new spending with the additional tax revenue - which will automatically reduce the deficit.

There is some bargaining that can be done here.
19 posted on 12/13/2012 12:56:22 PM PST by microgood
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To: 9YearLurker
At this point I’d take the continuation of the Bush cuts up to the $250K level that Obama is asking for

Why?

HOw is it that they are the only ones that should be targeted?

20 posted on 12/13/2012 12:57:19 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I wish we could do what terrorists do in a less murderous way: We start cutting the budget and anyone who doesn’t sign on to 20% cuts ACROSS THE BOARD gets cut out of the congress - go home you’re done!


21 posted on 12/13/2012 1:27:06 PM PST by princess leah
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To: princess leah
I wish the PTB had the good will of the Countries success in mind. It has become more and more obvious to me over the last couple of decades that this is all nothing but a game to them.

We, pardon my vulgarity, need to douche or give Washington an enema.

What needs to be accomplished could only happen with things like term limits, repeal of the 17th Amendment, repeal of Gov. lifetime pensions...I'm sure you could add to the list.

Alas, those who pull the strings pull them for them selves, I don't know what it's going to take but something has to give.

22 posted on 12/13/2012 1:36:18 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We’re still waiting for the spending cuts we were supposed to get 16 months ago in exchange for raising the debt ceiling by $2.5 trillion. I would not even consider raising it again until the Dems honor what they agreed to in Aug 2011. First, cut $150 billion in spending immediately for this fiscal year, then we’ll talk.


23 posted on 12/13/2012 1:40:46 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There’s lots of things they could cut, not even factoring in worthless federal alphabet agencies and `the disadvantaged.’
But Congress and the pResident are like spoiled sorority girls with Dad’s credit card: They won’t give it up without a fight.


24 posted on 12/13/2012 2:25:48 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

They shouldn’t be the only ones targeted. But they can’t get them extended without the Dems, and there’s no way they’re going to get that. That’s what Romney got us.

So better to get those cuts they can than none at all. That’s pretty simple and straightforward.

What the GOP leadership is doing is offering to contribute to the raising of taxes because they don’t have power to cut them. That makes no sense.


25 posted on 12/13/2012 2:27:55 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Too bad Bohner has not figiured out there is no downside for Obama going over the cliff...


26 posted on 12/13/2012 2:31:15 PM PST by Popman
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Someone needs send Boner on a long December vacation cruise around some obscure Greek isles so that he doesn’t negotiate something stupid over the holidays.


27 posted on 12/13/2012 2:46:09 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Popman

There is a downside for Obama going over the cliff. Welfare and unemployment benefits both take hits. Unemployment goes back to 26 weeks.


28 posted on 12/13/2012 3:00:13 PM PST by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Almost 30 replies and no smart aleck comments about “vudeo?”


29 posted on 12/13/2012 3:09:09 PM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You’ve already been played Johnny...the very moment you started negotiating with Obama because he DOESN’T want a deal. He wants to go over the cliff Cloward-Piven style.


30 posted on 12/13/2012 3:18:31 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: tumblindice

Let’s go after the Department of Education... suggest disbanding it completely and sending Education policy back to the States where it belongs.


31 posted on 12/13/2012 3:27:55 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
But then, we are assuming anyone really wants to fix this mess.

Agreed. I get the impression that the Republicans are relieved that, so long as they are in the minority, they don't have to fix the mess!

Indeed, it is Washington vs the rest of us.

32 posted on 12/13/2012 5:11:37 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
F the fiscal cliff and this hostage negotiation crap. If taxes are going to go up they can go up for everyone including the dumbasses who voted for O.

I don't want mine to go up but I would rather see the misery spread equally instead of the socialistic screw the rich crap O wants.

33 posted on 12/13/2012 5:22:08 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
MSM already bludgeoning him with polling data showing there is not a single cut which gains a majority of public support.

Republicans are apparently too dull-witted to replay that this is precisely why we have a representative government instead of a democracy.

34 posted on 12/13/2012 8:33:21 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Lie to me, Boner. It’s what you do best.


35 posted on 12/13/2012 8:35:31 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: weston

What makes think he cares about welfare cuts and unemployment?

He is not up for re-election...


36 posted on 12/14/2012 8:02:22 AM PST by Popman
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