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Union man (Wheeler Marsee - city council) speaks out about run-in with reporter Steven Crowder
Fox2news ^ | 12-13-2012 | Andrea Isom

Posted on 12/14/2012 5:05:58 AM PST by Darren McCarty

MELVINDALE, Mich. (WJBK) -- It's a video seen all over the world. An attack on a Fox News contributing reporter at the right to work protest in Lansing earlier this week was caught on video.

Now, one of the union members seen in the footage is speaking out to FOX 2.

By now, almost everybody knows who he is, reporter Steven Crowder, the guy who got sucker-punched outside a pitch tent where the pro-right to work crowd had gathered. (See the video above in the upper right corner)

"I'm under rested and overworked right now and still tough enough to take the union's greatest punch," said Crowder during an interview on 'Hannity' Wednesday. "And the leftists are saying that I deserved the beating that I got, completely and physically unprovoked."

The demonstration was so far from dull. There was quite a commotion, complete with cursing and all sorts of carrying on.

"Get the (expletive) out of my face," one man repeatedly says to Crowder during the skirmish.

Who is he? "I am the vice-griever for Local 1299, United Steelworkers," says Wheeler Marsee.

He's also a City Council member in Melvindale, a downriver suburb of Detroit. He tells FOX 2 he and a few friends came to participate in a peaceful protest against right to work. And things were all good, until they weren't. "There was people up there that were rebel-rousing the crowd," says Marsee. "The next thing I knew, I had the gentleman in question right up in my face. The video didn't give it justice because he was the aggressor."

(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxdetroit.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: goonions; goons; illiteratesavage; melvindale; michigan; rebelrousing; thugs; unions; wheelermarsee
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Melvindale. I should have known. This is the guy who I referred to as fatass screamer in another thread. Right after his screaming at Crowder, he told the guy in the NRA hat (not me) to "draw on him" and to suck a certain part of his anatomy. One of the guys with us and half his size called him a faggot because of that comment. I agreed, but that wasn't smart. He's a tough guy, but not tougher than five people or a blindside hit from the sixth. Luckily that didn't happen to either of us. I got out of dodge at that point since I was carrying and did not want to be in a position where I'd have to draw.
1 posted on 12/14/2012 5:06:10 AM PST by Darren McCarty
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
And the threats just keep coming.

'We'll Be At Your Daughter's Soccer Game!'

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Weekly/biweekly Michigan legislative activism thread December 7, 2012
2 posted on 12/14/2012 5:09:37 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Darren McCarty

WTF is a “vice-griever”?!!? It’s his job to hand out grief when the official Griever is not available??


3 posted on 12/14/2012 5:22:51 AM PST by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: Darren McCarty

The guy is part of the problem. Unions are electing school boards and city councils. No wonder they’re so angry about choices.


4 posted on 12/14/2012 5:24:02 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Darren McCarty

Union thug creep. From the way he acts, he has major anger issues. Did it because he was “passionate” about the Union. Scary beyond words, and he’s a council member. People like this should be no where near a board.


5 posted on 12/14/2012 5:29:53 AM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: SW6906
WTF is a “vice-griever”?!!?

An excuse to get off work and get an extra stipend from the union.
6 posted on 12/14/2012 5:30:06 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SW6906

Recall if you will the union Chrysler workers that were busted for smoking pot on the job.

The “vice-griever” cries at the gross misconduct of the company when they bust the stoners. Being a sensitive guy, he can also cry over spilt milk


7 posted on 12/14/2012 5:39:30 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Darren McCarty

Just another union idiot looking for an excuse to punch someone.


8 posted on 12/14/2012 5:43:06 AM PST by NRA1995 (CNN should be PNN (Propaganda, Never News))
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To: Darren McCarty

He is low class.


9 posted on 12/14/2012 5:43:46 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Darren McCarty

Was it a photo shop, or was that guy wearing a baseball hat with an “NSF” logo on the side (National Security Force...as in the civilian military Obammie the Commie threatened us with)?


10 posted on 12/14/2012 5:58:13 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Darren McCarty

Why has he not been arrested for assault?


11 posted on 12/14/2012 5:59:05 AM PST by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: Darren McCarty

vice-griever?

Seriously? He’s the vice-griever??


12 posted on 12/14/2012 6:00:08 AM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Darren McCarty

I understand your decisions.

But these communists are going to escalate the violence to get what they want.

It will take some extreme violence to put them back into the ‘civil’ mindset.

And yes, I do believe we have a right to petition our government and to protest without the fear of being attacked by these communists, and I believe that right includes the right of using extreme violence to protect that right.

It has been by appeasing the violence that tyrannical groups use that has enabled such tyrants as the Islamofascists to become the tyrants they are.


13 posted on 12/14/2012 6:01:27 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Darren McCarty

Inexcusable that there have been no arrests in this violent assault against Crowder.


14 posted on 12/14/2012 6:04:50 AM PST by soycd
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To: Darren McCarty

“There was people up there that were rebel-rousing the crowd,” says Marsee.”

Uh, learn to speak english you union thug moron!


15 posted on 12/14/2012 6:05:40 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Darren McCarty

You were smart to have carried AND to have left before you had to draw. I am proud of you.


16 posted on 12/14/2012 6:19:43 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Mr. K

>”Why has he not been arrested for assault?”

Apparently Crowder has not filled any assault complaint.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2012/12/13/crowder-hasnt-filed-assault-complaint-michigan-troopers-say/


17 posted on 12/14/2012 6:24:35 AM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

Alinsky him.


18 posted on 12/14/2012 6:32:33 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (You cant bring something to its knees that refuses to stand on its own)
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To: SW6906
Oh, it is a fat, large, foul-mouthed community organizer.

CO's tend to be skinny and effeminate.

19 posted on 12/14/2012 6:32:33 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (The trouble with the "masses" is that they never achieve the "m")
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To: Darren McCarty
Here we can see Crowder provoking the assault as Wheeler peacefully jabs his finger and screams "F#&% YOU!"
20 posted on 12/14/2012 6:32:52 AM PST by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Time, place, and manner.

While "offense" is tempting, if I drew my gun there at that time (about a minute before SHTF), what would happen? 90% of it would be bad. That mob would have doubled down, I would have fired, someone would be dead, and I could be dead or jailed with a bunch of witnesses that would all go against me.

Place. This was a union organized protest. This was "their" turf on that day first. This wasn't my house, business, or my neighborhood. I'm not going to act like Mr. Tough Guy on their turf. On mine, it's another story. I'm getting the rifle.

Would my drawing further my objective? On that day, no. I wasn't hit. I wasn't threatened except by a mild comment I've heard back in high school.

I understand what you are saying and the problem with conservatives acting passive. I get it. If I was hit, we'd have a different conversation. If this Wheeler jagoff got within arm length from me, we'd have a different conversation.

21 posted on 12/14/2012 6:44:11 AM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: CSM

He f’n couldn’t f’n think of any f’n words to f’n use.


22 posted on 12/14/2012 6:50:16 AM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: Mr. K

Crowder didn’t file a report. He wants to fight the Tony guy MMA style.


23 posted on 12/14/2012 6:51:06 AM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: Darren McCarty

Don’t get me wrong.

I would not have drawn either, and I think you handled the situation correctly. If I’d been there, I would have done what you did. Unless one of the people I was with was being Zimmerman’d by the unions, then I’d have drawn.

What I’m saying is that we need to plan and organize the next time we have an event like this and we need some “big meanies” to meet their thugs head-on.

Yes, it will be ugly. But they need to understand that if they are not civil, we will not shut up and go away and allow them to tyrannize us. We will fight back. There will be blood. And it will not be only ours.


24 posted on 12/14/2012 7:05:29 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: soycd
Crowder needs to file assault charges. He hasn't done so yet.

There were other folks in the AfP tent. They need to file charges for damage done to themselves and their property by these Union low-lifes.

We also need to come up with a better plan to help provide security for our groups that try to provide a counter balance at demonstrations like this... Thinking something along the lines of a Patriot Guard type thing.

25 posted on 12/14/2012 7:05:33 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Darren McCarty

An impromptu massive protest at the union HQ could be fun though. Fight the mob with a mob.


26 posted on 12/14/2012 7:07:09 AM PST by MatD
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“The video didn’t give it justice because he was the aggressor.”

Who are you going to believe? Me, or your lying eyes?

For leftists, everything is moral if it advances the cause.


27 posted on 12/14/2012 7:18:44 AM PST by marktwain
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To: bert

“Recall if you will the union Chrysler workers that were busted for smoking pot on the job.”

You heard they got reinstated, right ?


28 posted on 12/14/2012 7:27:12 AM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Darren McCarty
Typical union democrat thug....very brave when he has a thousand supporters behind him. Luckily we are winning this private union fight....we need to double down on public secter unions!!
29 posted on 12/14/2012 7:27:35 AM PST by ontap
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To: Darren McCarty

He can thank his fellow union educators for not knowing how to speak no f’n english!


30 posted on 12/14/2012 7:38:09 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: PLMerite

yep


31 posted on 12/14/2012 7:38:09 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Darren McCarty

I would love to see a movement that would, in direct opposition to “Look for the Union Label”, boycott all goods and services connected with Unions.

Yes. I was in a Union, Local 57 out of Philadelphia, for years.


32 posted on 12/14/2012 7:43:46 AM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: Darren McCarty; Drango; Mr. K; SW6906; bert; NRA1995; freekitty; Ghost of Philip Marlowe; jenk; ...
Yesterday I saw an interview with a high-ranking Michigan state police officer (chief?) on Greta Van Susteren's show on Fox. What is disturbing is what appeared to be a rather laid back attitude on his part in regard to arresting the perps of the violence at these demonstrations.

As of last night, he said, there had been only one formal complaint - by AFP as an organization - and he said it will be investigated as per usual. He seemed to be in a wait and see mode.

With all the visual evidence of the crimes being committed and the appearance of several of the perps committing these crimes on the video, can't the police pursue an investigation and make arrests if they can locate suspects who match the people shown in the video? Or do they need formal complaints from a victim or victims to initiate such an investigation?

One other point: there seemed to be a lack of police presence at the time and location at which the violence took place.

33 posted on 12/14/2012 8:08:43 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: ontap

you are definitely right about that. Public employees have no right to unionize to begin with. Even FDR wouldn’t support it.

bobo


34 posted on 12/14/2012 8:11:08 AM PST by bobo1 (I)
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To: ontap

you are definitely right about that. Public employees have no right to unionize to begin with. Even FDR wouldn’t support it.

bobo


35 posted on 12/14/2012 8:11:16 AM PST by bobo1 (I)
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To: justiceseeker93
Cops (government union workers) not recognizing the crimes of other union workers.

Shocked, shocked I tell you (yes, trite but apropos).

36 posted on 12/14/2012 8:14:21 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (The trouble with the "masses" is that they never achieve the "m")
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To: justiceseeker93

Your observations are seemingly correct.

My take is that many recognize what was really occurring.

You do not clamp down on a safety valve popping off. If you do, the vessel is likely to over pressurize and explode.


37 posted on 12/14/2012 8:25:21 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: justiceseeker93
Yesterday I saw an interview with a high-ranking Michigan state police officer (chief?) on Greta Van Susteren's show on Fox. What is disturbing is what appeared to be a rather laid back attitude on his part in regard to arresting the perps of the violence at these demonstrations.

No surprise; the police are also unionized.

38 posted on 12/14/2012 8:29:55 AM PST by NRA1995 (CNN should be PNN (Propaganda, Never News))
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To: justiceseeker93

Why would they? The police are unionized as well.


39 posted on 12/14/2012 8:36:46 AM PST by MatD
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To: justiceseeker93; cripplecreek; Darren McCarty; All

Yes, I saw that segment on Greta. Thanks for the pings; Great thread. Thanks to all posters. Well-stated/done, Darren.


40 posted on 12/14/2012 8:44:58 AM PST by PGalt
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To: justiceseeker93

If no one has filed a complaint against the perps they won’t be arrested. This crap about how police won’t do anything is a flat out LIE.

It doesn’t do us any good to act like liberals and tell only the pert of the story we want people to know.


41 posted on 12/14/2012 9:03:37 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: NRA1995; All
No surprise; the police are also unionized.

True, but (1) I think I heard that police and fire unions were exempt from the new right-to-work law and (2) the man being interviewed, IIRC, was police brass, so he most likely wouldn't be in a union in his current position.

42 posted on 12/14/2012 9:13:38 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Darren McCarty

If we could beat up every person who “go into our faces” with verbage we hate, there would be no problem with socialists/Marxists today. They would all be dead.


43 posted on 12/14/2012 11:11:58 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: justiceseeker93
As of last night, he said, there had been only one formal complaint - by AFP as an organization - and he said it will be investigated as per usual. He seemed to be in a wait and see mode.

the part about there only being one formal complaint is a lie. one of my friends was there and was assaulted, had his phone stolen, and his wife subsequently received a number of threatening calls from his phone. he has filed charges for assault and theft with MSP.
44 posted on 12/14/2012 11:13:10 AM PST by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: Darren McCarty
I got out of dodge at that point

No offense to you but I never would have put myself in that environment. I've worked with those people and I know how crazy they can get with the mob mentality.........

Not too long ago Crowder would have gotten hurt real bad and with no video of the attack, nobody would have seen a thing and everybody there would have denied it happened.......

45 posted on 12/14/2012 11:14:26 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

The police allowed this to happen because they are union, too. So without the rule of the law, the rule of the jungle prevails. We should join it and Crowder only goes places where he men armed with machine guns. Maybe this is what the socialists want but the liberal elite would wet their panties fast.


46 posted on 12/14/2012 11:14:37 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Darren McCarty

Here is the council page

http://www.melvindale.org/government/elected-officials


47 posted on 12/14/2012 11:33:02 AM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: SW6906

That means he is the second biggest commie in his local.


48 posted on 12/14/2012 1:45:03 PM PST by exnavy (Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: Drango
“Seriously? He’s the vice-griever??”

He grieves over all his vices, and the uncontrollable crotch itch that brought.

49 posted on 12/14/2012 1:45:03 PM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: justiceseeker93
I think I heard that police and fire unions were exempt from the new right-to-work law

That's true but there is a legal reason behind it.

Back in approx. 1966, then congressman Coleman A. Young was able to pass a bill that gave law enforcement and firefighters the right to collective bargaining but that was governed by binding arbitration

What that means is, any contract negotiations will ultimately be decided by an Arbitrator and their membership do not have the right to stage any walk outs or strikes........

Had the RTW bill included these people then the original bill would have had to be rewritten and re-ajudicated.........

50 posted on 12/14/2012 3:49:55 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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