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Florida Leads the U.S. in Concealed Firearm Permits, Texas Somehow Far Behind
Frontburner ^ | 13 December, 2012 | Bradford Pearson

Posted on 12/14/2012 6:44:03 AM PST by marktwain

Florida is slated to become the first state with one million concealed firearm permits, Bloomberg reported yesterday. State officials issued 993,200 active permits as of Nov. 30, and are expected to pass the one million mark next week.

“Floridians have a great respect and appreciation for their Second Amendment rights,” said Adam Putnam, Florida’s commissioner of agriculture and consumer affairs.

This got me thinking about the Texas number. So I called the state department of public safety, and they sent me to their website (technology!). The numbers aren’t exactly apples-to-apples (the newest Texas numbers are for last year), but they still paint a picture where, despite all the Second Amendment bluster statewide, Texas actually trails Florida by a significant amount.

2011: 518,625 (total permits, statewide)

2010: 461,724

2009: 402,914

2008: 314,574

2007: 288,909

2006: 258,162

2005: 248,874

2004: 239,940

2003: 239,863

2002: 224,172

That 2003 to 2004 jump (only 77 new permits) seems suspect, but the others seem to jibe with the Florida growth trend of a near doubling of permits over four full years. Texas is actually fourth nationwide, behind Florida, Pennsylvania, and Georgia, according to the GAO.

I then checked this year’s applicants, by zip code, to see where they were from. The top 10:

77379 (Spring): 761 approved applicants

77573 (League City): 706

77429 (Cypress): 688

77584 (Pearland): 613

77346 (Humble): 551

75052 (Grand Prairie): 549

77546 (Friendswood): 532

77494 (Katy): 526

76028 (Burleson): 522

77095 (Houston): 520

Moral of the story? Stay out of the Houston suburbs.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; fl; guncontrol; secondamendment; tx
This is because it is much easier to apply for and receive a permit in Florida than it is in Texas. Expense and difficulty matter.
1 posted on 12/14/2012 6:44:08 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

How many of those 1 million Florida permits were issued to non residents?


2 posted on 12/14/2012 6:51:48 AM PST by deweyfrank
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To: marktwain

Because we don’t need no stinking permits...


3 posted on 12/14/2012 6:53:39 AM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: marktwain

My understanding is that to get a Texas permit you have to be a resident of the state. Florida issues permits to residents of other states.


4 posted on 12/14/2012 6:55:55 AM PST by Texas resident
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To: marktwain

With all the restrictions on where you can carry a concealed waepon in TX you are not getting much from a CCL beyond what we already have with private property, the castle law extending to your car (don’t count on that one though), hunting, and normal use, like out on your ranch for snakes and such. Plus you are telling the gov’ment you have a gun.


5 posted on 12/14/2012 6:57:50 AM PST by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: marktwain

The CHL training in Texas is down to 69.00 for the classes so there are going to be a lot more in the future.


6 posted on 12/14/2012 6:59:00 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: dblshot

Exactly, even with CHL you cannot carry in some places. I carry every where and I don’t go where I can’t.

I don’t want big brother having that info.


7 posted on 12/14/2012 6:59:54 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: marktwain

Duh. Everyone knows you either get a Utah or Florda non-resident CC permit in addition to your own state’s permit/license.

Utah is much cheaper than Florida now.


8 posted on 12/14/2012 7:00:01 AM PST by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: marktwain

This might be hard for many here to understand, but I will try.

I am a 5th generation Texan.

Nearly every real Texan I know owns a small arsenal of long guns, but nearly no hand guns. It’s hard to explain, but for some reason handguns have a sigma here. I could walk into someones home and see .... a whole room full of rifles and not think twice about it.... but one pistol... and I get a little edgy... it’s wierd, I don’t know exactly why I think that way.


9 posted on 12/14/2012 7:07:33 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Being a fourth generation Texan I have no idea what you are talking about. Virtually all my friends and relatives have hand guns and most have multiple ones!!!


10 posted on 12/14/2012 7:15:13 AM PST by ontap
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To: marktwain
I'll bet that Arizona really lags behind ... cause you don't need a permit to concealed carry here ... but I have a CCW anyway.

Walk into the gun shop pick out your favorite ARXX plop down the cash fill out the form and walk out with it. We have to see about doing away with the form someday. Grandma Mrs Clamper was cute yesterday wearing her Rugar LCP to the Albertsons grocery store.

11 posted on 12/14/2012 7:24:36 AM PST by clamper1797 (I mourn for the America I grew up in ..fought for ..and loved ..July 4 1776- June 28 2012)
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To: clamper1797
I'll bet that Arizona really lags behind ... cause you don't need a permit to concealed carry here

Man, I must really like living by the coast to stay here.

12 posted on 12/14/2012 7:27:58 AM PST by skeeter
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To: marktwain

It’s because there are FAR more CARPERBAGGING Massholes and New Yawkers in FL than in TX.


13 posted on 12/14/2012 7:33:13 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: skeeter

We are former Aptos / Santa Cruz residents. We fled Taxifornia 3 years ago. We love Arizona and would never move back. If we miss the ocean ... we catch a flight to Maui


14 posted on 12/14/2012 7:33:13 AM PST by clamper1797 (I mourn for the America I grew up in ..fought for ..and loved ..July 4 1776- June 28 2012)
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To: GunRunner

Yep!


15 posted on 12/14/2012 8:00:18 AM PST by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: ontap
Virtually all my friends and relatives have hand guns and most have multiple ones!!!

I agree with that. My family has been in Texas since the mid 1800s and everyone I know has at least a couple of hand guns included in their "gun collection".

16 posted on 12/14/2012 8:04:30 AM PST by WesternPacific (Deafness has its Advantages)
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To: marktwain
I'd suggeast relative need may be the answer. Florida has a far higher rate of violant crime than Texas. Citizens in Florida feel a greater need for protection.
17 posted on 12/14/2012 8:12:16 AM PST by Ditto
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To: marktwain

FL had a rash of car jackings about the same time the CCW law was passed.


18 posted on 12/14/2012 8:21:50 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: marktwain
Expense and difficulty matter.Yes, in Texas, even though the training is between $70 and $100, the permit is another $70.00 (first time applicants) and now the fingerprints are extra cost and must be done as an extra step in a Texas approved facility. Add it all up and the applicant will spend about $150.00 to $200.00 just for the permit. Then, add the weapon for concealed carry (if not already owned) expense which easily run another $500.00+ with holster and ammo to practice.
19 posted on 12/14/2012 9:28:24 AM PST by TexasRedeye
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Nearly every real Texan I know owns a small arsenal of long guns, but nearly no hand guns. It’s hard to explain, but for some reason handguns have a sigma here. I could walk into someones home and see .... a whole room full of rifles and not think twice about it.... but one pistol... and I get a little edgy... it’s wierd, I don’t know exactly why I think that way.

I can vouch for that, it may be different today but pistols just weren't common for most of us, rifles of all sorts, including military surplus, shotguns, deer rifles, but often no pistols at all, or only one for the father of the house which was often from the war, or a hand me down, rarely did someone just go out and shop for pistols.

20 posted on 12/14/2012 11:50:04 AM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
“I could walk into someones home and see .... a whole room full of rifles and not think twice about it.... but one pistol... and I get a little edgy... it’s wierd, I don’t know exactly why I think that way.”

But I thought that Texas was originally part of the “wild West” where the handgun hung on everyone’s hip! You don’t mean to tell us that Texan’s are “squimish” about pistols?

21 posted on 12/14/2012 8:44:50 PM PST by vette6387
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To: ansel12

That’s so strange. Every Texan I know has many handguns and long guns. I have over 30 handguns myself.

Texas trails Florida because of the safe motorist act. People don’t think they need to carry on their person (they do), and it’s perfectly legal to carry in your car concealed w/o a permit.


22 posted on 12/17/2012 6:37:58 AM PST by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: TexasGunLover

As I noted, things are probably different now because of the liberalization of the gun laws, but when I was growing up, people just didn’t get into pistols much.

Texas gun laws used to be very strict, and you could only carry one in the car if you were traveling, I think through two counties, so most people weren’t invested in shopping for, and investing in, or building a collection of pistols and holsters, like today.

My father kept a pistol, but it was always a game of avoiding the law seeing it during traffic stops.

My experience back then was that although there may be a dozen or more long guns and shotguns in the house, there might be a single pistol, people tended to budget for purpose driven guns, and pistols were low on the totem pole.


23 posted on 12/17/2012 10:30:02 AM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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