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To: marthemaria

OK, I’ll say it, at the risk of alienating our libertarian friends. This is a result of moral decay. TV, music, movies, internet, God removed from schools, all of it. We’ve always had guns, we’ve always had periods of economic turmoil, we’ve always had disputes. But we haven’t always had massacres on a regular basis ...


13 posted on 12/14/2012 8:08:53 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: dinoparty

Yes we have always had massacres. From the 1700’s to today. What has changed is the media circus. Look at all those stabed at school in the China. Haven’t heard much about it have ya? Because it did not involve a gun. Western shootouts and lawmen being murdered at a alarming rate after the Southern war for Independence. Lots to name but don’t have the time or space. Problem is no one reads much history. One common tie is most lawlessness was ended when citizens with guns and rope had enough.


68 posted on 12/14/2012 9:17:50 AM PST by DeWalt
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To: dinoparty

EXACTLY RIGHT!


93 posted on 12/14/2012 9:39:40 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: dinoparty
I believe you're correct on all counts. Having said that, can we debate those points later? Now's a time for thoughtful prayer for the victims and their families.

Respectfully,
USC.

165 posted on 12/14/2012 10:02:04 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: dinoparty

You’re absolutely right.

This sort of horror is directly tied to the degraded value of human life through abortion, euthanasia, bureaucratic-run healthcare, easy divorce, violent pop-culture entertainment, doing away with God as creator of Man for a sanctified purpose (if we’re all just apes at root, why should we play by anyone’s rules?), and doing away with God’s laws and instruction.

In other news today, tens of millions of law-abiding gun owners hurt no one as they have done for two hundred years.


188 posted on 12/14/2012 10:09:29 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: dinoparty

Exactly what it is, as well our economy in a free fall. Crime, rage incidents always go up when the economy goes down and I would bet anything this guy just lost his job or is in financial trouble and lost his mind. Yep, but let’s keep raising them taxes, like dumping cement on a sinking ship.


248 posted on 12/14/2012 10:26:23 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: dinoparty

I went to elementary school in the 50s. You never heard of deranged nutcases going on a shooting spree hardly anywhere. Back then people respected each other. Kids respected teaches and vice-versa. Now you have to pass through a medal detector to get in most schools. Alot of schools have a deputy sheriff assigned to the school. Kids respect no one. Teachers are scared to go to school. Gangbangers threaten teachers all the times. They sell crack cocaine all over the schools. All these shooting are a direct result of morality gone to hell in the US states and it all started with the bra burners, and the protesting draft-dodgers and taking God out of the classrooms. Unless there is a spiritual awakening and we start putting God ahead of ourselves, nothing will ever change. It will only get worse. Pray for the families of all those that lost a precious child, pray for the families of the adults murdered. And pray that God shows these evil anti-God, gun-grabbing liberals the evils of their ways. If there had been one teacher packing in that school there is a damn good chance the shooter would have died before he could have killed the first person. Facts are facts.


915 posted on 12/14/2012 1:07:18 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: dinoparty

Obviously this place needs God,not just a belief in him but his actual presence in our lives.

And Goddamn.....what a horrible tragedy.


1,137 posted on 12/14/2012 2:31:32 PM PST by Del Rapier
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