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The Blue Tax
National Review ^ | 12/14/2012 | The Editors

Posted on 12/14/2012 7:55:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Republicans have agreed to a tax increase of $800 billion over ten years as part of the negotiations regarding the so-called fiscal cliff. Even as Republicans refuse to call it a tax hike (“revenues,” indeed), there are better and worse ways to go about this unpleasant business, and one simple reform would raise all that money and more: eliminating the federal deduction for state and local taxes. While we would prefer no tax increase at all, eliminating this deduction would be a sensible reform of the tax code, and could be paired with tax cuts elsewhere for a fiscally neutral simplification of our byzantine tax code.

Estimates suggest that eliminating this deduction would raise as much as $900 billion over ten years, though it may well turn out to be less as taxpayers modify their behavior in light of the new incentives. That won’t balance the budget with deficits running that much or more every single year, but it is nothing to turn the national nose up at, either: $900 billion would completely offset the estimated deficit for 2013. Progressives should welcome eliminating the deduction in that the new tax burden would fall much more heavily upon those earning $200,000 or more. As Reihan Salam points out, households in the $200,000-and-up range would pay an average of $5,166 more without the deduction, while those in the $30,000-to-$50,000 range would pay only $70 more.

A tax reform that more than clears the $800 billion mark, falls most heavily upon the wealthy, and has the support of many conservatives: You would think that the Democrats would be quick to embrace such a thing. But to the great surprise of no one, the party’s house organ has editorialized against it. Writes the New York Times:

The theory behind the deduction was that the amount paid to states in taxes is not really part of an individual’s disposable income, because it is obligatory and, therefore, should not be taxed twice. Over time, the deduction has become the equivalent of a subsidy from the federal government to states that believe in a strong and active government. That may infuriate conservatives in low-tax states like Texas, who hate subsidizing states with different views of government’s role, but it’s actually a good thing for the country.

New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut are among the states with the highest taxes to deduct. Apparently it took a blow close to home to get the editors of the New York Times to notice the problem of double taxation, but then again the New York Times Company suspended its dividend payments back in 2009, so perhaps nobody over there is paying very close attention to the issue. (Chevron and PepsiCo investors will have meditated upon it.) The Times argues that states with income taxes serve their residents better than do states without them, and that the federal government should therefore continue to subsidize the aggrandizement of government at the state and local level.

The Times mistakes correlation for causality, as it usually does when it suits the editors’ politics. Yes, the average person living in Connecticut or Massachusetts remains better off across many metrics (health and education among them) than the average person in Texas or Oklahoma. There are many differences between the New England and Mid-Atlantic states and the deep South and Southwest, and the presence of state income taxes is not the most significant of them. People living on the Upper East Side of Manhattan have above-average incomes and education levels, too, and the city’s income tax has no more to do with that than does the fact that they pay very high rents, drink a great deal of coffee, and read Monocle

Population matters. Texas, for example, has better standardized test scores for black, Hispanic, and white students than does Wisconsin, but it has lower average test scores across the population as a result of its different demographic characteristics. Likewise, residents of north Philadelphia pay the same wage tax as residents of Rittenhouse Square, but their health and education lags as far behind that of Philadelphia’s better-off residents as the living standards of people living in the South Bronx do those of the denizens of Fifth Avenue. Suburban New Jersey and urban New Jersey hardly feel like the same country, let alone the same state; the same goes for suburban and urban Maryland, Cleveland and its suburbs, interior and coastal California, etc. “Strong and active government” often is part of the problem.

It is impossible to imagine that anybody who ever has witnessed the sausage-making in Albany, Sacramento, or Trenton would wish to subsidize the process with federal money.

States without income taxes tend to have more economic growth and better employment prospects than do states with high income taxes, though that fact should not be oversimplified, either: Texas’s economic advantages include such things as a liberal regulatory environment and a relatively sane legal climate (and, don’t tell the holier-than-thou libertarians, several very large state-run universities producing a steady supply of skilled workers).

We note that the Times is here endorsing a regressive subsidy, one that showers benefits on high earners in states that are often themselves higher in income than the national average. We wonder which other regressive policies the paper might endorse in the interests of the nice people in Greenwich and Millburn.

We have 50 different states for a reason: Texas can have its low taxes and economic growth, and Connecticut can have its high taxes and lavishly subsidized abortions. But there is no reason for the federal government to subsidize Connecticut’s high taxes — or Texas’s crony-capitalist “economic development” schemes. The tax code is not here to provide a national carrot and stick. It is here to raise money, which Congress and the New York Times believe the government needs more of, so long as it does not derail any gravy trains in Albany or Sacramento.  

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: tax; taxes

1 posted on 12/14/2012 7:55:12 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
2 posted on 12/14/2012 7:56:57 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: SeekAndFind

To decide whether or not to read this article I did a search for the word “spend”.

All I found was one occurrence of the word “suspended”.

Can’t read any more articles on taxes that do not mention spending, so in the trash it goes.

3 posted on 12/14/2012 8:01:19 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: SeekAndFind

They might be right. If you’re going to eliminate a deduction, this would be a good one. As it stands now, it subsidizes blue state profligacy and eliminates some of the competitive advantage of low tax jurisdictions.

4 posted on 12/14/2012 8:02:02 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: SeekAndFind

I would be a lot more supportive of the notion that it makes sense to give NY State residents a break on their taxes if NY State didn’t have to ask for as much help from the Federal Government as Texas does.

Andy’s shameless panhandling after Sandy hit makes me uninterested in subsidizing people who choose to live in NY State.

Full Disclosure: I live in NY State.

5 posted on 12/14/2012 8:11:59 AM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: C210N

The article is just another cry for higher taxes. I think the writer should be dragged out of his ivory tower and flogged.

6 posted on 12/14/2012 8:17:06 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind

Where is the last $6 trillion
in new debt (tax increases we have to pay)? There don’t seem to be any significant new “shovel ready” infrastructures like interstate highways, international airports, hysroelectric power generating dams, or major university campuses. This means we were lied to and most of our money is stolen? Reid and Obama’s refusal to even pass budgets (!!!!!?) mean there’s not even an audit trail now, our $$ is just gone. Any article about hiking our tax burdens should discuss spending cuts and getting our 6 trillion of missing money back, first.

7 posted on 12/14/2012 8:17:46 AM PST by faithhopecharity (--)
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To: SeekAndFind; xzins
eliminating the federal deduction for state and local taxes.

Technically taxes paid to the state are not Federal income and therefore should not be subject to Federal Income Tax. If the Federal Government wants it's share of that money then they should take their share from the State rather than the individuals.

If I earn $100,000 in California and pay $15,000 of that to the State of California for the privilege of living there, then as far as the Federal Government is concerned my actual "income" is only $85,000.

For the most part I never see most of that money because it is taken out of my check by the employer as a condition for his being able to hire me. So a Federal income tax on taxes taken by the State is a double tax.

8 posted on 12/14/2012 8:19:18 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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Lied to? For 8 years all the RATS and the MSM said was the Bush tax cuts were tax cuts for the rich. Now all of a sudden it was tax cuts for the middle class?

And no one called them out on it. That was the big lie.

9 posted on 12/14/2012 9:09:14 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (You cant bring something to its knees that refuses to stand on its own)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Yes, but the contest for which is the biggest, most audacious Obama lie... (a contest that maybe Rush or Sean or Mark Levin might enjoy hosting? The NYTimes won’t...)
the contest for Obama’s biggest lie has so many contestants it is impossible to predict the winner.

Citizenship? Constitutional qualification for office? True name and identity?
6 Trillion missing from our Treasury?
sponsoring Islamic terrorists/Caliphate all around the world without Congressional authorization?
6 Trillion missing from our Treasury?
oh yeah, today he says he is actually just a “moderate Republican!”

he wins because there are still millions of decent Americans who do not make a daily practice of lying and thusly also believe, quite naively it turns out, that he wouldn’t do that to them.

It is difficult to disabuse the trusting of their faith...

10 posted on 12/14/2012 9:20:32 AM PST by faithhopecharity (--)
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To: muawiyah

“The article is just another cry for higher taxes.”

Absolutely! this would just be a tax hike on middle class taxpayers. notice there is no discussion whatsoever on any spending cuts: just more ways to soak the average worker. how could one work around the elimination of this deduction except by giving up his job, uprooting his family and moving to another state with lower or no taxes?

11 posted on 12/14/2012 9:21:05 AM PST by IWONDR
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To: SeekAndFind

I want the GOP to raise Blue State taxes. I see no reason why conservatives should reward their enemies and punish their friends.

12 posted on 12/14/2012 11:07:04 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
From the standpoint of the taxpayer the proposal is a tax increase.

From the standpoint off Conservatism, all tax increases are, however configured, tax increases.

We are against tax increases!

13 posted on 12/14/2012 1:20:19 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: goldstategop

I’m with you.

Tax liberals

Tax Hollywood

Tax the Foundations

14 posted on 12/14/2012 1:35:36 PM PST by NeoCaveman (SMOD 2012)
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To: goldstategop

That actually should be fairly easy to do.

The blue states have higher state income taxes.

So, just disallow the deduction of state income taxes from your federal taxes.

15 posted on 12/14/2012 1:39:01 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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16 posted on 12/14/2012 1:42:43 PM PST by NeoCaveman (SMOD 2012)
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To: NeoCaveman

With respect to Foundations, just legislate the dispersal of the assets to the heirs ~ the money will end up getting taxed one way or the other.

17 posted on 12/14/2012 2:48:09 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind
I don't like this idea, and it isn't just because I live in MA. Removing the deduction from State and local taxes gives double taxation on a portion of the government take. It treats these taxes as if they were a discretionary expenditure.

Some might argue that living in a high-tax state is a discretionary expenditure. I don't think that's primarily true--I view it as a misfortune, not a choice.

18 posted on 12/14/2012 6:00:37 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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