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Physicists testing to see if universe is a computer simulation
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Posted on 12/14/2012 8:51:14 AM PST by chessplayer

Some physicists and university researchers say it's possible to test the theory that our entire universe exists inside a computer simulation, like in the 1999 film "The Matrix."

In 2003, University of Oxford philosophy professor Nick Bostrom published a paper, "The Simulation Argument," which argued that, "we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation." Now, a team at Cornell University says it has come up with a viable method for testing whether we're all just a series of numbers in some ancient civilization's computer game.

Researchers at the University of Washington agree with the testing method, saying it can be done. A similar proposal was put forth by German physicists in November.

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"we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation."

If we are nothing but a computer program, how can we be "alive?" It would mean we don't really exist.

1 posted on 12/14/2012 8:51:20 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

There may be an upside: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Physics_of_Immortality_(book)


2 posted on 12/14/2012 8:54:07 AM PST by I Shall Endure
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To: chessplayer
Are tax payers being soaked for this nonsense?
3 posted on 12/14/2012 8:54:26 AM PST by reefdiver
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To: reefdiver

Taxpayers more than likely coming up with the funding. Why on earth would anyone want to waste time and resources on this nonsense. Probably a friend of Obama thinking he’ll stimulate economy. This is the arrogance of the elite run amuck.


4 posted on 12/14/2012 8:59:13 AM PST by Taggart_D
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To: chessplayer
I loved the comment at the bottom of the Yahoo page: "Holy #$%$!!! Pot hasn't even been legal in Washington State for a month and look where we are already!"

LOL!

5 posted on 12/14/2012 8:59:20 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: reefdiver

Are tax payers being soaked for this nonsense?


That was probably the attitude of people when Columbus set sail for the New World.


6 posted on 12/14/2012 9:00:12 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

The findings will be as bogus as the global warming nonsense, but cheered by the msm and world gov’ts to validate the taking of innocent life.

After all, it wasn’t really ‘life’ anyway.

Will this ‘prove’ that God doesn’t exist also?

Methinks this is just part of a grander plan.


7 posted on 12/14/2012 9:01:17 AM PST by MichaelCorleone ('We the People' can and will take this country back...starting today.)
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To: chessplayer

“That was probably the attitude of people when Columbus set sail for the New World.”

It’s virtually stunning that you could draw that comparison.


8 posted on 12/14/2012 9:02:45 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Taggart_D

Does your complaint about “soaking the taxpayers” refer to the experiment or the simulation? :)


9 posted on 12/14/2012 9:03:15 AM PST by the_Watchman
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To: chessplayer
...in some ancient civilization's computer game.

In which they were a game...In which they were a game...In which they were a game....

10 posted on 12/14/2012 9:03:34 AM PST by onedoug
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To: chessplayer

C’mon, Man!

I was just getting to where I could comprehend the Big Bang, and the pointy heads come up with this sh!t.


11 posted on 12/14/2012 9:03:56 AM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "p" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: chessplayer

That would mean liberals are just computer viruses. I like this theory.


12 posted on 12/14/2012 9:04:57 AM PST by sphinx ([)
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To: chessplayer

There are some ideas so absurd . . .


13 posted on 12/14/2012 9:05:27 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: chessplayer
Only these self proclaimed “scientists” are a computer simulation... a viral infection at best... the rest of us that know GOD know the truth. Hell awaits those who deny HIM.

LLS

14 posted on 12/14/2012 9:05:36 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (¬ďA child is born in Bethlehem" KING of KINGS)
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To: chessplayer; Salamander; humblegunner; Semper Mark; JoeProBono; Slings and Arrows; ...

On the right track, but not quite ping!

(The universe is actually a fractal holographic representation of the Mind Of God.)


15 posted on 12/14/2012 9:07:39 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: chessplayer

of course we’re a computer simulation! the answer us “42”! now the question! that’s something else entirely. ask the mice


16 posted on 12/14/2012 9:09:04 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: chessplayer

After just getting rid of the Islam scum, Spaniards probably had zero awareness or could care less how the Queen spent her money.


17 posted on 12/14/2012 9:09:43 AM PST by X-spurt (Ted Cruz for President of the Republic of Texas)
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To: camle

I still like the idea of Voyager bumping into a wall with stars painted on it.


18 posted on 12/14/2012 9:12:14 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: reefdiver
Are tax payers being soaked for this nonsense?

We're not tax payers. Apparently, we're characters.

19 posted on 12/14/2012 9:12:29 AM PST by Living Free in NH
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To: Zionist Conspirator
There are some ideas so absurd . . .

Like how time is relative, space can be curved, and pretty much everything about quantum mechanics, all of which are now both experimentally proven, and have practical applications?

20 posted on 12/14/2012 9:13:33 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: chessplayer

Where’s my cntl-alt-del button. I need to reboot.


21 posted on 12/14/2012 9:14:48 AM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: chessplayer

Most of the “scientists” minds are probably primitive sims run on a 6502.


22 posted on 12/14/2012 9:15:17 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: chessplayer

“Computer- end program”.......... we’re good


23 posted on 12/14/2012 9:17:11 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Strategerist
There are some ideas so absurd . . .

Like how time is relative, space can be curved, and pretty much everything about quantum mechanics, all of which are now both experimentally proven, and have practical applications?

How much of that will be valid if the universe turns out to be a "computer simulation?"

Oh well. If the world is "experimentally proven" to be a computer simulation, at least we can all stop worrying about everything, since nothing will be "real" anyway.

24 posted on 12/14/2012 9:17:47 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: sphinx

“That would mean liberals are just computer viruses. I like this theory.”

Parasites, actually.


25 posted on 12/14/2012 9:19:16 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: reefdiver

Considering the headline is wrong (nobody is testing anything, a couple of scientists have just written journal articles suggesting HOW you would test the hypothesis), and these scientists are always writing and publishing papers, and it’s all theoretical work, essentially taxpayers aren’t being “soaked” at all.


26 posted on 12/14/2012 9:20:18 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: chessplayer

So, liberals are now trying to prove Intelligent Design!


27 posted on 12/14/2012 9:21:18 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: chessplayer
I can understand this from a theoretical psychics/holographic universe point of view. Everything is NRG.
Like NRG attracts and opposite NRG repels in the spiritual world or ethos. (This explains syncronicaties quite well, or those thing considered miracles). Together, a matrix of opposites is created, and there's a constant struggle for balance.
From a quantum point of view, consciousness affects matter. Matter "pops" into existence via consciousness.. If the big bang were fact (and I'm not arguing it right now), what consciousness was there or behind it to start it all in the first place?

Anyway, I'd like to know what they come up with.

28 posted on 12/14/2012 9:22:08 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: chessplayer
I wonder if this is related to the theory that the Universe is a hologram. A theory that I think has been found to be not true.

http://io9.com/5818008/the-universe-probably-isnt-a-giant-hologram-after-all

29 posted on 12/14/2012 9:24:43 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: chessplayer

If this is true, then God is the Programmer, IMHO.


30 posted on 12/14/2012 9:25:15 AM PST by GSWarrior (Click HERE to read entire tagline.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
So, liberals are now trying to prove Intelligent Design!

They are trying to discover the truth. Do you still think they are liberal?

31 posted on 12/14/2012 9:26:28 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: 11th Commandment

I have an alternative theory.

The earth is a chessboard and the two chess players are God and Satan. I believe this is the second game in their best of 7 series. The first game ended in a draw and that was the ice age that killed everything.

Gods first move in game 2 was Adam and Eve. God’s last move was the Berlin Wall coming down and the fall of the Soviet Empire.

I believe that Satan’s latest move was the Arab Spring. So now we are waiting on God to make his next move? It could happen tomorrow or 200 years from now.

If this was a game (No, I do not live in Colorado or Washington) what do you think God’s next move is?


32 posted on 12/14/2012 9:26:49 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (You cant bring something to its knees that refuses to stand on its own)
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To: chessplayer

Even if it were true, how would it really matter?


33 posted on 12/14/2012 9:26:57 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: chessplayer

I wonder if the programmers wrote into the program that scientists in 2012 would try to determine that they were just part of a computer program. And I wonder if these scientists will figure out that their experiments are predetermined by the computer program, and that their findings were predetermined as well.


34 posted on 12/14/2012 9:28:06 AM PST by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Even if things are real, there’s still no point in worrying.


35 posted on 12/14/2012 9:29:09 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: chessplayer
If we are nothing but a computer program, how can we be "alive?" It would mean we don't really exist.

E=MC2. Our bodies are energy. NRG is either a particle or a wave. It depends on who the observer is - which would be you are the other "NRG's" around you.
(See Schroeder's Cat. The cat is dead, alive, or nonexistent until the cat is observed by someone.)

36 posted on 12/14/2012 9:29:57 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: I Shall Endure
I've found it intriguing that Jon Paul II believed he would be reborn in a future world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testament_of_Pope_John_Paul_II

37 posted on 12/14/2012 9:31:30 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: chessplayer

Sid Meier is god?


38 posted on 12/14/2012 9:32:39 AM PST by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: chessplayer

Oh. Well, that explains my +15 Hammer Of Smiting. It’s great to have for those long staff meetings.


39 posted on 12/14/2012 9:34:16 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: sphinx
That would mean liberals are just computer viruses. I like this theory.

LOL.

40 posted on 12/14/2012 9:36:18 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: chessplayer
If we are nothing but a computer program, how can we be "alive?" It would mean we don't really exist.

If we are nothing but material, how are we conscious?

41 posted on 12/14/2012 9:36:58 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: chessplayer
"Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror, then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part, then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known."
I Corinthians 13:12

Jesus implied in many places that this current world is not the "true" reality.
Even the very nature of "particles" (nothing is really solid, only energy fields) seems to suggests that there is something "more real" than this present world - in the next there will be "....no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying - there shall be no more pain because the former things have passed away."
Revelation 21:4

An existence outside the box of time and space - where the sun is replaced by the light of Jesus' face.

42 posted on 12/14/2012 9:37:40 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Dee Cees pocketbook is always Open to puny men that want to take a stab at Almighty God. That’s all this is. humanism at work.


43 posted on 12/14/2012 9:39:57 AM PST by Gasshog
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To: brownsfan; chessplayer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0


44 posted on 12/14/2012 9:42:02 AM PST by EEGator
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To: brownsfan

hhahahhhhaaa


45 posted on 12/14/2012 9:52:27 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: EEGator

I absolutely love it!!!

I WILL use that in the very next fight I get into on FR. LOL


46 posted on 12/14/2012 9:57:36 AM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: chessplayer
"If we are nothing but a computer program, how can we be "alive?" It would mean we don't really exist."

I personally think your statement is correct. We only perceive our existence and our perceptions are not real. They are merely a projection (read: simulation) of the ego mind. They don't exist in reality. What then is reality you may ask? The ego mind cannot understand the answer so don't ask the question.

47 posted on 12/14/2012 10:00:48 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Gator113

Isn’t it great? :)


48 posted on 12/14/2012 10:00:56 AM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator

While it will have to be in my own voice, I think I am going to record that to my voicemail greeting.

I love it and I have no doubt that I will overuse it!!


49 posted on 12/14/2012 10:03:10 AM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: chessplayer

"For God's sake, don't pull the plug!"


50 posted on 12/14/2012 10:04:08 AM PST by COBOL2Java (GOPe: Already prepping for their 2016 loss - Jeb Bush!)
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