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To: campaignPete R-CT

I suspect this young man has a severe mental illness. The mental health gurus decided about 20 years ago that institutionalizing sufferers of mental illness is not a solution.

Young men,in this age group, suffer most. They don’t like the meds because the meds result in a numbness that is uncomfortable. So they don’t take them. What they think is real to them and they act on it.

Wish someone would study the correlation between these mass murders and mental health treatment.

It isn’t firearms. It is untreated mental health problems.

If you can be in an institution for weeks for a broken hip, why doesn’t it stand to reason that institutionalization for severe mental health problem an option?


13 posted on 12/14/2012 12:35:30 PM PST by a5478 (a5478)
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To: a5478

Absolutely! Where I live there is a state hospital nearby and people are released into the community from there. Granted most are fine, but there are the .0001% who are not yet the case workers continue to determine they are not a problem until they do something.

In the case in Connecticut it was a mass shooting, around here it is usually property crimes or minor assaults. This is a rather rural area so most folks here are armed (even teachers).

Despite what many believe, even the mentally ill can and do plan these things where they can expect the least resistance. A “no gun zone” school is an excellent place to complete a mass killing.

We need to reexamine the treatment of the mentally ill. Loughner and the Movie theater shooters were quite obviously ill yet there is no quick method to get them under control until AFTER they have done something.

Gun control won’t stop this stuff. Arming people charged with the care of our children would go a long way. An armed principal at that school could have quickly ended the episode.

And we really need to come to grips with the idea that there ARE, in our society, deranged persons who need to be locked away BEFORE they are allowed to perform these hideous acts.


33 posted on 12/14/2012 12:48:10 PM PST by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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To: a5478
I suspect this young man has a severe mental illness.

This is not an issue of treating mental state! "Mental illness" or not -- such an individual needed to be stopped immediately!

Too bad somebody there was not equipped to stop him.

FYI:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2967141/posts

Auditing Shooting Rampage Statistics (Private Citizen vs Police Saves)
dailyanarchist.com ^ | 31 July, 2012 | Davi Barker
Posted on Sun Dec 09 2012 13:45:34 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time) by marktwain

The average number of people killed in mass shootings when stopped by police is 14.3
The average number of people killed in a mass shooting when stopped by a civilian is 2.3.

This preparation is not to be left up to the police, in view of today's social climate! No gun-free zones!

34 posted on 12/14/2012 12:48:10 PM PST by imardmd1
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To: a5478

Unfortunately with the current regime in place that opens up another can of worms. The Soviets loved to declare dissidents mentally ill and send them off “for treatment” (i.e., imprisonment and forcible medication usually ending in nobody ever hearing from that individual again).


39 posted on 12/14/2012 12:53:01 PM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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