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MASSACRE: Up to 27 people, including 20 children, shot dead (now it's ADAM Lanza, 20)
NY Post ^ | 12/14/12 | LARRY CELONA, JOSH MARGOLIN, DANA SAUCHELLI, NATALIE O'NEILL and DAN MacLEOD

Posted on 12/14/2012 12:59:01 PM PST by raccoonradio

A crazed gunman dressed in black went on a rampage at a Connecticut elementary school this morning, in a massacre that left the shooter and 26 dead others - including 18 children.

Adam Lanza, 20, shot his mother dead and targeted her kindergarten class at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., sources sais. Sources also told The Post that Lanza's mother was a teacher at the school and he "had a dispute with her."

Lanza is dead inside the school.

Lanza used two handguns and a .223-caliber assault rifle, an official said. The official also said that New Jersey state police are searching a location in connection with the shootings.

Police in Hoboken, NJ are questioning Lanza's older brother Ryan, 24, but he is not a suspect.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: connecticut; lanza; newtown; sandyhook; shooting
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1 posted on 12/14/2012 12:59:06 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

a .223 caliber rifle is a HUNTING rifle, not an “assault weapon”.

You won’t get far with a .223 against automatic weapons.


2 posted on 12/14/2012 1:01:56 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: Shadow44

3 posted on 12/14/2012 1:03:59 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Shadow44

AR-15?


4 posted on 12/14/2012 1:04:27 PM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep.)
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To: raccoonradio

This is why I don’t pay attention to initial news reports. Maybe by tomorrow, a more accurate story will emerge.


5 posted on 12/14/2012 1:04:27 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Shadow44

.223 AKA NATO 5.56.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.223


6 posted on 12/14/2012 1:05:06 PM PST by Justa
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To: Shadow44

Fox News called .223 a “high caliber” round. It is in fact pretty low as calibers go.


7 posted on 12/14/2012 1:05:33 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: raccoonradio

I’m curious about the mask he was wearing.


8 posted on 12/14/2012 1:06:31 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: fatnotlazy

Every reporter has also become an anal yist...hard to get the real story without a lot of blah, blah, blah.....


9 posted on 12/14/2012 1:07:00 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: ez

I suspect this young man has a severe mental illness. The mental health gurus decided about 20 years ago that institutionalizing sufferers of mental illness is not a solution.

Young men,in this age group, suffer most. They don’t like the meds because the meds result in a numbness that is uncomfortable. So they don’t take them. What they think is real to them and they act on it.

Wish someone would study the correlation between these mass murders and mental health treatment.

It isn’t firearms. It is untreated mental health problems.

If you can be in an institution for weeks for a broken hip, why doesn’t it stand to reason that institutionalization for severe mental health problem an option?


10 posted on 12/14/2012 1:07:55 PM PST by a5478 (a5478)
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To: raccoonradio

Was his mom a single parent?


11 posted on 12/14/2012 1:08:25 PM PST by GraceG
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To: ez

“Fox News called .223 a “high caliber” round. It is in fact pretty low as calibers go.”

Don’t confuse the media with anything like facts. They wet their pants for incidents like this.


12 posted on 12/14/2012 1:08:40 PM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: raccoonradio; All

RYAN Lanza may need the Beasley Law Firm, the one representing George Zimmerman....boy is the media deliberately awful in reporting.

In this day and age of high tech....how can you mess up so much on one story?


13 posted on 12/14/2012 1:09:34 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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To: ez

Leventhal just ran his mouth saying the shooter had an “M4-style assault rifle” and a “10 mm [sic] Glock handgun.”

10 mm? Glock 20? What’s that even used for?


14 posted on 12/14/2012 1:10:38 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Shadow44
I have an AR-15 that uses .223 ammo. It is definitely not a hunting rifle. It is the same type used by the two homosexual DC snipers John Muhammad and Lee Malvo. It can do some damage.
15 posted on 12/14/2012 1:11:17 PM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: raccoonradio

Probably felt that his mother loved her kids in her class more than she loved him. And this is how he got back at her.


16 posted on 12/14/2012 1:11:21 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: raccoonradio

This just in? We haven’t heard this news before, why the delay?!


17 posted on 12/14/2012 1:12:05 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: raccoonradio
We need laws to prevent these kind of incidents. There should have been a law in CT preventing someone under 21 from having a handgun.

Oops, there already is such a law.

Just goes to show, gun control does nothing to stop lunatics with murder in their hearts.

18 posted on 12/14/2012 1:12:55 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: raccoonradio

OK, Now let’s arrest everyone in the Tri-state area named Ryan or Adam Lonza!

Gotta keep DHS, TSA and CNN busy! They can sort it out later!


19 posted on 12/14/2012 1:14:41 PM PST by PGR88
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To: GraceG

He parents were divorced. Initial reports say he murdered them both but who knows how accurate that is.


20 posted on 12/14/2012 1:15:11 PM PST by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: raccoonradio

Not only has he be wrongly identified in the media as the perpetrator of this, but he’s lost his mother and his brother. Prayers for Ryan Lanza along with all the people and their families affected by this.


21 posted on 12/14/2012 1:15:11 PM PST by OldNewYork
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To: a5478

To call this a mental illness is to denigrate people who actually have mental illnesses. This person did not have a mental illness. This person was evil.

We need to recognize that there are evil people in this world, and this person was one of them.

All of the psychological and psychiatric mumbo-jumbo in the world could not have prevented this incident. This person had a black heart and complete absence of any human soul.

May he burn in Hell forever.


22 posted on 12/14/2012 1:15:59 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: raccoonradio

NBC channel 4 here in DC is already talking gun control.

I swear. I am not a conspiracy theorist but I do know that Communists know pshycology and I wonder if they are somehow spurring these incidents to ban guns so they, the Government Communists, can finally take over our Country.

Since Obambi has another four years, he can back door massive gun control and Congress, especially the House, will say nor do nothing about it.


23 posted on 12/14/2012 1:16:36 PM PST by OldMissileer
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To: raccoonradio

Tony Danza. Look out!! You’re next.


24 posted on 12/14/2012 1:16:55 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: GraceG

TENTATIVE info: It’s looking like Adam killed both his mother and father, who were divorced and living in separate places, then went to the school where his mother was a teacher and slaughtered her entire kindergarten class. There are also reportedly a girlfriend and a friend who are missing. It’s not clear to me whether it is Adam’s girlfriend and friend, or his brother Ryan’s.

Also looking like Adam could not or decided not to get to his 24 year old brother Ryan, but instead carried his ID so that Ryan would be publicly blamed.

There is also a report that a second brother has now been found dead at the shooter’s home, bringing the total to at least 28 people:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/connecticut-shooter-suspect-identified-tearful-402639


25 posted on 12/14/2012 1:17:26 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: P-Marlowe

Well stated. Thank you.


26 posted on 12/14/2012 1:17:50 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: cripplecreek

How can Barry appear so upset over this when he has spent his entire political life defending the killing of children?


27 posted on 12/14/2012 1:18:53 PM PST by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: Uncle Chip

I’d say she had a good reason not to love him.


28 posted on 12/14/2012 1:19:04 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: raccoonradio
"Oh my son, my son! Would God I had died for thee!" 2 Samuel 18:33

"But now he is dead....I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me." 2 Samuel 12:23

What part of free will should God take away form us to prevent these terrible events?

29 posted on 12/14/2012 1:19:27 PM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: a5478
"I suspect this young man has a severe mental illness."

If there is a hole through his "mental" I would agree with you.

30 posted on 12/14/2012 1:20:43 PM PST by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: rarestia

They do make 10mm Glocks. 10mm is the predecessor round to .40 Smith and Wesson. FYI, the classic .45 ACP caliber is 11.45mm. As for what it it used for - same thing most other handguns are used for, defense.


31 posted on 12/14/2012 1:20:52 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: OldNewYork
Not only has he be wrongly identified in the media as the perpetrator of this, but he’s lost his mother and his brother. Prayers for Ryan Lanza along with all the people and their families affected by this.

And maybe his father as well. Prayers for Ryan Lanza indeed.

32 posted on 12/14/2012 1:21:20 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: OldMissileer

NBC channel 4 here in DC is already talking gun control.

I swear. I am not a conspiracy theorist but I do know that Communists know pshycology and I wonder if they are somehow spurring these incidents to ban guns so they, the Government Communists, can finally take over our Country.

Since Obambi has another four years, he can back door massive gun control and Congress, especially the House, will say nor do nothing about it.


Although we have some on here that would consider your post “Conspiracy Theory”....Only a fool or a moron would think Obama and the Dems will not use this incident to push for more Gun Control.

And who knows how pre-programmed, whether by government or on his own accord, was this shooter. If someone was truly “mentally ill” they would not have been able to plan and execute such a tragedy


33 posted on 12/14/2012 1:21:48 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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To: Revolting cat!

What’s just in is that the first name is now being reported as Adam...clearly it was appended to an earlier article.


34 posted on 12/14/2012 1:22:48 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

Jared Lee Loughner (Tucson,AZ) - 23 yo white male.

Adam Lanza (Newtown, CT) - 20 yo white male

James Eagan Holmes (Aurora, CO) - 24 yo white male.

Jacob Tyler Roberts (Oregon mall) - 22 yo white male

Eric David Harris (Colulumbine, CO) - 19 yo white male

Dylan Bennet Klebold (Columbine, CO) - 17 yo white male

Anyone detect a pattern here? It’s time to check these shooters’ medical histories for psychotropic drugs.


35 posted on 12/14/2012 1:23:33 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Flavious_Maximus
It is definitely not a hunting rifle.

Don't tell that to my brother, he's taken deer, feral hogs, and coydogs.

/johnny

36 posted on 12/14/2012 1:23:55 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: raccoonradio

I thought the name of the scum bag was Ryan, now it’s Adam..maybe its his brother who is named Adam..My heart breaks for those innocent babies. How someone can look at a 5 year old and blow them away, Satan has many faces


37 posted on 12/14/2012 1:24:40 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: P-Marlowe

There is no insult to mental illness when someone with a mental illness does something so wrong. If that were true, a coach who is a pedophile degrades all people who are actual coaches.

Severe mental illness is a reality and it is simply a manifestation of a physical problem.

I’m saying that the medical/mental health community is failing a segment of the population and the results are terrible. Intervention is not an impossibility. I’m not saying it is the only solution.


38 posted on 12/14/2012 1:26:21 PM PST by a5478 (a5478)
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To: ez

Well it is pretty much a textbook rule that is the age when schizophrenia (if you’re going to get it) kicks in.


39 posted on 12/14/2012 1:27:47 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: raccoonradio

Just by being in Facebook you can have your name dragged through the mud.

It’s happened twice now.


40 posted on 12/14/2012 1:28:10 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: P-Marlowe

This is beyond mental illness. This is demon possessed. People with mental illness usually only harm themselves. They can make life hell for parents etc but they only take it out physically on themselves if at all.


41 posted on 12/14/2012 1:28:22 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything)
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To: Salamander

In New Jersey.No Hi Cap mags.No flash hider.No folding stock.No bayonet lug.How did he get in the door with all that firepower?


42 posted on 12/14/2012 1:28:38 PM PST by Renegade
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To: SeminoleCounty
I swear. I am not a conspiracy theorist but I do know that Communists know pshycology and I wonder if they are somehow spurring these incidents to ban guns so they, the Government Communists, can finally take over our Country.

Since Obambi has another four years, he can back door massive gun control and Congress, especially the House, will say nor do nothing about it.


I wonder that too, even as far back at the Patrick Purdy shooting back in 1989. I've heard my share of stories like the secret program of mind control called MK-ULTRA and so on. IIRC, there was a lot of talk about MK-ULTRA and the shootings way back in the 1990's.
43 posted on 12/14/2012 1:30:26 PM PST by Nowhere Man (I miss you Whitey! (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012). Take care, pretty girl!)
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To: dirtboy

I’m sure he’s been erratic for some time. No one likes to call the police on their own.....because they will not and cannot do anything about it.


44 posted on 12/14/2012 1:31:26 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: raccoonradio

It’s those precarious early 20’s when young men could develop schizophrenic traits.


45 posted on 12/14/2012 1:31:33 PM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: a5478

It is the cost of Caring for mental illness was the problem, and the fact that no real or meaningful treatment or restorative aspect in ‘curing’ the illness. Then it became a libtard political correctness issue. You can’t make people take their meds. You can’t arrest restrain unless they are an immediate harm to others. The became the homeless problem that we try to fix by teaching them how to eat out of garbage cans and giving them needles in a needle exchange program.

To avoid discussion on the real issues, this will be a gun problem.


46 posted on 12/14/2012 1:31:52 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: raccoonradio

by 7:30 this evening he’ll probably be Mario Lanza


47 posted on 12/14/2012 1:33:08 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: South40

You’re absolutely right. Obama approaches abortion with different glasses.


48 posted on 12/14/2012 1:34:18 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Renegade

According to what’s being said right now, he was “buzzed in” through the locked door.

Which still begs the question, doesn’t it?

I guess we won’t be hearing much about Ben Ghazi or the fiscal cliff for a while.


49 posted on 12/14/2012 1:34:42 PM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep.)
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To: Shadow44
a .223 caliber rifle is a HUNTING rifle, not an “assault weapon”.

Sorry. I beg to differ:

.223 Bushmaster.

.223 Ruger Mini-14 Tactical.

Neither is meant to be used as a hunting rifle. There are better choices for hunting. Game that is.

50 posted on 12/14/2012 1:35:33 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred.)
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