Skip to comments.26 States Decline ObamaCare Exchange; 'Administrative Nightmare' Seen
Posted on 12/14/2012 3:30:36 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather
The federal government will likely be involved in running the ObamaCare exchange in at least 30 states, 26 of which expressly declined to establish state exchanges. One health-policy expert refers to it as an "administrative nightmare" for the Department of Health and Human Services.
Friday was the deadline for a state to let HHS know if it planned to establish a state exchange. Thus far only 18 states and the District of Columbia are planning on doing so.
As of right now only Utah and Florida remain undecided. Utah may still decide to set up a state exchange, but few expect that Florida will. When asked, a spokesman for Florida Gov. Rick Scott directed IBD to a letter Scott sent last month to HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius requesting more information on the exchanges and a meeting with Sebelius. Sebelius has not responded to his letter.
Assuming Florida decides not to set up a state exchange, nearly 200 million people, or 64% of the U.S. population, will reside in a state with either a federal exchange or a partnership exchange. Although many of the people in those states such as those on Medicare or who have employer-based coverage will not be getting insurance through an exchange, millions of others will be.
Enrolling them will likely prove a daunting challenge for the federal government.
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A hearty hell yes in agreement with you, and you’re welcome.
Who want central controlled economy? Raise hand please.
No? Okay. Who want free food and medical and transports? Raise hand.
Sorry to say that Mississippi has opted to set it up - I though we had smarter folks up in Jackson. Of course, there are too many lefties in the State government.
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It is likely she turned down the meeting because she would be embarrassed by an interrogation. She after all, has not read the law.
This will be a hiring bonanza for the Dems in Washington. More mediocre civil servants to administer this bureaucratic morass, hired from the ranks of the 47%. They’ll put in a solid 3 hours work each day for 8 hours pay and the projected administration costs for Obamacare will triple. America cannot afford Obamacare as described by the Obama administration. it will be bankrupted by Obamacare as it is actually implemented.
Anybody have the list of states? (I grew up in and in many ways love California, but sometimes wonder if it’s a good idea to move back there...)
As much as I hate the Roberts ruling that the penalty is a tax (bullshit), it was unanimous that the Fedgov has over-stepped its authority regarding the Commerce and Necessary clauses. That's huge! Or do I have this wrong?
1. I live in south Orange County and the city I live in is always at the top of the list as far as little crime, so do many other communities in other southern and central counties;
2. The weather is amazing. The coast is always moderate. Inland can get a little hot, but with little humidity and no bugs;
3. You can snow ski, surf, hang glide, hike, hunt (limited) and many other outdoors activities you desire. It's all here;
4. The people are friendly and courteous;
5. People take care of their properties which keeps the values up;
6. Property values have been one of the least to devalue since the 2008 recession;
7. There are jobs here, even with everyone saying companies are leaving by the droves. There are millions who remain;
8. Many attractions/entertainment venues;
9. There are many gun owners, and other than Los Angeles, most believe in the Constitution.
1. Property is expensive here;
2. Rentals are higher than many regions;
3. Cost of living is higher than many regions;
4. Traffic can be a problem since we're so spread out;
5. Attractions/entertainment is spread out, so it takes a drive to get to some.
6. Cali gun laws are some of the most restrictive. Any magazine over 10 rounds is now illegal. Basic AR-15 type rifles have to have a special button to release the magazine, although there is a work around that has yet to be illegal;
1. We have earthquakes, but nothing so bad as the hurricanes and tornadoes that other regions experience. However, there is always the "big one" coming, as it's called.
2. The State is governed by liberals;
3. The State keeps increasing taxes and fees;
4. The education system is now at the bottom of accomplishment for its students, where it was once at the top.
5. The State Legislature recently gained a super-majority and has a Governor called, "Moonbeam". Think what that can mean for its future;
6. The State is bankrupt, yet the the bureaucrats want to build a high-speed rail system from nowhere to nowhere. Again, think what that means.
7. Cali has signed on to the Obambicare State Exchange program.
Sure I'm missing some points. Just a quick list. Feel free to Freepmail me about specifics.
I pretty much hate being over-regulated. The more the government regulates what I consider to be none of their business, the more I don't want to do it. For instance, in VA, I never put my seat belts on & in the four years I've been here, I've never been stopped. In CA, I got ticketed more than once for no seat belt on. (Seat belts are a fine idea and, but for this Nanny State thing, I'd probably wear them.)
This Obamacare thing rankles me the same way because whether I'm insured is none of the government's business. (I see insurance is basically a statistical losing bet against yourself, so that's doubly bad for me because now they're trying to force me to do something I otherwise might not do.)
I graduate from law school this spring (a "spring chicken" - you're never too old) and I'm a bit puzzled about where to move.
3 more states and it’ll be more than half!
Constitutional Convention, anyone?!!???
That's the way I see it. The court ruled on the matter before it that neither the commerce clause nor the elastic clause empower the government to do this, relying instead on the power to tax. And no tax law can be challenged until it goes into effect. So once 2014 gets here, I fully expect this to find its way back before the Roberts court at which point he will rule against it as a violation of equal protection. He could not do so before.
“administrative nightmare” for the Department of Health and Human Services = a very expensive nightmare for taxpayers
“perhaps American voters will vote more intelligently the next chance they get.”
I have spent most of my 68 years waiting for voters to vote more intelligently next time. So far they just get dumber every year.