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Conservatives discuss anti-communism (Whittaker Chambers' 'Witness' on CSPAN2 Saturday)
Yale Daily News ^ | December 3, 2012 | Rosa Nguyen

Posted on 12/14/2012 6:07:24 PM PST by iowamark

Roughly 100 students, alumni and government officials gathered in Linsly-Chittenden Hall Friday to commemorate the 60th anniversary of “Witness,” an anti-communist manifesto written by conservative columnist Whittaker Chambers.

The event, hosted by the William F. Buckley Program, aimed to examine “Witness” from both historical and present-day perspectives through three panels and a dinner with Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels. Panelists such as John Gaddis, a history professor, and Elliott Abrams, former assistant secretary of state for human rights and humanitarian affairs, discussed the book’s controversial history in sparking the beginning of the conservative movement.

Daniels said he agreed with the book’s message of freedom and anti-communism, but he criticized its pessimistic depiction of a Western world succumbing to communism. Instead of possessing a pessimistic view of modern-day Americans relying on the government, he said he thinks Americans can still become self-made people with economic freedom.

“Changes must come to welfare state policies, and we must trust in our fellow citizens,” Daniels said. “The government is designed to encourage and enable individual freedom — if we summon the best from Americans, we must assume the best about them. We must tell them, ‘We believe in you and your ability to decide for yourself.’”

During the first panel, Gaddis, journalist M. Stanton Evans and historian of the conservative movement Lee Edwards discussed the life of Chambers, a former Soviet spy who testified in the 1948 espionage trial of then-United Nations official Alger Hiss. Hiss was accused of spying for the Soviet Union, and Chambers denounced his Communist allegiances and testified against Hiss.

Edwards said “Witness,” which details Chambers’ story, was “the glue that held [the Republican Party] together” in the 1950s because it helped differing conservative factions unite against the common enemy of communism. Evans commended Chambers as a man who realized the dangers behind communism and defended his conservative beliefs despite living in an atmosphere predominantly sympathetic to the Soviets.

The second panel, led by Abrams, Max Boot, a military historian and fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, and Jay Nordlinger, a senior editor of the National Review, examined whether Chambers’ anti-communist message remains relevant in present-day matters of foreign policy. Nordlinger said communism still causes problems in the world today through human rights violations such as Chinese labor camps.

“It’s hard to find people left of center who are willing to take up the cause [against human rights violations],” he added. “George W. Bush paid a lot of attention to political prisoners. Obama’s more interested in having warm relations with these Communist regimes.”

Boot and Abrams said they think the communist threat has been replaced by the jihadist movement in the Middle East, and they advocated for increased U.S. political involvement in the region.

The third panel included Norman Podhoretz, the former editor of Commentary magazine, Alfred Regnery, the former publisher of The American Spectator, and Peter Berkowitz, a senior fellow at Stanford University, who discussed ways that conservatives could define themselves without an immediate communist threat. Podhoretz said he thinks conservatism would remain united by a belief in economic freedom, while Regnery said the ideology is bound by its fundamental pillars, such as tradition and order. But Berkowitz said he believes in a new approach to conservatism that discourages politicians from seeking a smaller government in size and instead advocates for a government with limited abilities.

Buckley Program President Nathaniel Zelinsky ’13, a staff columnist for the News, said he enjoyed the third panel because it addressed confusion about the identity of the conservative movement after the 2012 election.

“The conservative movement doesn’t know how to define itself right now, and the whole panel focused on what the movement needed to become,” he said. “It’s something that’s necessary for the University and for the country.”

Ugonna Eze ’16 said he thought Gaddis, who discussed Cold War personalities in contrast to one another, portrayed the clash between Hiss and Chambers well.

Dimitri Halikias ’16 said he believed Berkowitz embodied the spirit of Buckley, who aimed to change the approach to the conservative movement without giving up on its core principles. Ken Bickford, who spoke at a Buckley Program event last February, said he disagreed with panelists on the final panel because he did not understand the distinction between a small government and one with limited powers.

The Buckley Program will host a lecture featuring Pulitzer Prize-winning political columnist George Will in January 2013.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: communism; communists; cspan; governmentemployees; stateemployees; stateemployeeslist; whittakerchambers; witness
On CSPAN2:

Saturday Dec. 15 1:59PM ET:
""History of 'Witness'
"From a conference on the 60th anniversary of the publication of Whittaker Chambers' book, Witness, panelists talked about the history of the book. The panelists included Lee Edwards, Distinguished Fellow in Conservative Thought at The Heritage Foundation, John Lewis Gaddis, history professor at Yale University, and author and journalist M. Stanton Evans. The event was moderated by Danilo Petranovich, professor in the Department of Political Science, Yale University. The conference was held at Yale University in New Haven, Connecticut."

Saturday Dec. 15 3:03PM ET:
""Foreign Policy of Whittaker Chambers"
"From a conference on the 60th anniversary of the publication of Whittaker Chambers' book, Witness, panelists talked about foreign policy and Whittaker Chambers, and whether Witness' message is relevant today. The panelists included, Max Boot, senior fellow in National Security Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations, Elliott Abrams, senior fellow for Middle Eastern Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations, and Jay Nordlinger, senior editor of the National Review. The event was moderated by Charles Hill, diplomat in residence and lecturer in International Studies, Yale University. The conference was held at Yale University in New Haven, Connecticut.""

Saturday Dec. 15 4:13PM ET:
""What Defines Conservatives"
"From a conference on the 60th anniversary of the publication of Whittaker Chambers' book, Witness, panelists talked about the question, “Without anti-communism what defines conservatives today?” The panelists included Alfred Regnery, publisher of the American Spectator, Peter Berkowitz, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, and Norman Podhoretz, editor-at-large of Commentary. The event was moderated by James Piereson, director, Center for the American University, Manhattan Institute. The conference was held at Yale University in New Haven, Connecticut.""

1 posted on 12/14/2012 6:07:28 PM PST by iowamark
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Books by and about Whittaker Chambers:

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=whittaker++chambers


2 posted on 12/14/2012 6:14:48 PM PST by iowamark
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To: iowamark
"Whittaker Chambers was born Jay Vivian Chambers and also known as David Whittaker Chambers[1] (April 1, 1901 – July 9, 1961), was an American writer and editor. After being a Communist Party USA member and Soviet spy, he later renounced communism and became an outspoken opponent later testifying in the perjury and espionage trial of Alger Hiss. Both are described in his book published in 1952 entitled Witness."

Good Lord!
Even Wiki manages to get it better than CSPAN!

3 posted on 12/14/2012 6:16:35 PM PST by norton
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To: iowamark

It was the Prothonotary Warbler that cooked Hiss’ goose!


4 posted on 12/14/2012 6:29:33 PM PST by MistrX
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To: iowamark
journalist M. Stanton Evans...

November 8, 2007-"M. Stanton Evans talked about his book, Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America’s Enemies, published by Crown Forum. The author argued that Senator Joseph McCarthy does not deserve the bad reputation he has been assigned by historians, and that Senator McCarthy was correct in his assessment of the threat posed by Communists in the United States during the so-called “Red Scare” and that his detractors knowingly cover up the extent of this threat. After his presentation he responded to audience members' questions."

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/201983-1

5 posted on 12/14/2012 6:33:41 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: iowamark
"...he did not understand the distinction between a small government and one with limited powers."

Fool didn't know that conservatism demands both small, and limited!

Today we have a government of near 10 million sucking the blood out of the population - 8 million federal and near 2 million state government pukes that do little to nothing for their lavish salaries - and near a third of them are tax delinquent!

For those that wonder how many state workers you're supporting - here's a list that was for last year.

STATE EMPLOYEES.

  1. California........ 2,389,200
  2. Texas............. 1,816,700
  3. New York....... 1,489,400
  4. Florida........... 1,090,900
  5. Illinois............... 843,400
  6. Ohio................. 769,900
  7. Pennsylvania..... 728,800
  8. Virginia.............. 696,200
  9. North Carolina.... 674,300
  10. Georgia............. 649,700
  11. New Jersey........ 621,100
  12. Michigan............ 617,900
  13. Washington........ 531,600
  14. Maryland........... 497,800
  15. Missouri............. 444,400
  16. Tennessee......... 433,300
  17. Massachusetts... 431,500
  18. Indiana.............. 420,300
  19. Arizona.............. 415,300
  20. Minnesota.......... 414,600
  21. Wisconsin.......... 409,300
  22. Colorado........... 389,900
  23. Alabama............ 375,300
  24. Louisiana........... 358,900
  25. Oklahoma........... 339,300
  26. South Carolina..... 334,900
  27. Kentucky............. 325,800
  28. Oregon............... 289,200
  29. Kansas............... 258,800
  30. Iowa................... 250,000
  31. Mississippi........... 247,900
  32. Connecticut.......... 241,800
  33. Arkansas............. 220,400
  34. Utah.................... 214,700
  35. New Mexico......... 195,300
  36. Nebraska............. 167,500
  37. West Virginia....... 149,800
  38. Nevada............... 148,000
  39. Hawaii................. 124,700
  40. Idaho.................. 117,900
  41. Maine.................. 100,000
  42. New Hampshire...... 95,400
  43. Montana................ 91,100
  44. Alaska................... 84,100
  45. South Dakota......... 79,700
  46. North Dakota......... 79,300
  47. Wyoming............... 77,800
  48. Delaware.............. 63,200
  49. Rhode Island......... 59,900
  50. Vermont................ 53,500

TOTAL GOVERNMENT 1,919,700

6 posted on 12/14/2012 7:32:25 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.
Let's try that again... it looks a lot better this way.

STATE EMPLOYEES

	
California	2,389,200
Texas	        1,816,700
New York	1,489,400
Florida	        1,090,900
Illinois	  843,400
Ohio	          769,900
Pennsylvania	  728,800
Virginia	  696,200
North Carolina	  674,300
Georgia	          649,700
New Jersey	  621,100
Michigan	  617,900
Washington	  531,600
Maryland	  497,800
Missouri	  444,400
Tennessee	  433,300
Massachusetts	  431,500
Indiana	          420,300
Arizona	          415,300
Minnesota	  414,600
Wisconsin	  409,300
Colorado	  389,900
Alabama	          375,300
Louisiana	  358,900
Oklahoma	  339,300
South Carolina	  334,900
Kentucky	  325,800
Oregon	          289,200
Kansas	          258,800
Iowa	          250,000
Mississippi	  247,900
Connecticut	  241,800
Arkansas	  220,400
Utah	          214,700
New Mexico	  195,300
Nebraska	  167,500
West Virginia	  149,800
Nevada	          148,000
Hawaii	          124,700
Idaho	          117,900
Maine	          100,000
New Hampshire	   95,400
Montana	           91,100
Alaska	           84,100
South Dakota	   79,700
North Dakota	   79,300
Wyoming	           77,800
Delaware	   63,200
Rhode Island	   59,900
Vermont	           53,500
TOTAL GOVERNMENT 1,919,700
7 posted on 12/14/2012 7:54:34 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: iowamark

” - - - “Without anti-communism what defines conservatives today?” - - - “

Duh, today the Democrats have a Communist as their occupant in OUR White House. And yes, we are STILL anti-communist!


8 posted on 12/14/2012 8:23:10 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Graewoulf
Wow - thanks for the note, Graewoulf - the spreadsheet now says total of 21,919,700 State workers - but now I'm wondering about THAT!!

Point is - we're drowning under government workers that do little to nothing for us!

9 posted on 12/14/2012 8:34:23 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: MistrX

Prothonotary Warbler...don’t forget the old decrepit Ford, the expensive oriental rug, a typewriter, and a certain pumpkin on Chambers’ farm.

Over the past few month’s, I’ve read “Witness” by Chambers and “Communism: A History” by Richard Pipes, and “The Communist” by Paul Kengor. I’m currently working my way through “The Venona Secrets, Exposing Soviet Espionage and America’s Traitors” by Herbert Romerstein and Eric Breindel.

Earlier this year, I read several books about the depression and FDR which all touched on the communist infiltration of the government in the 1930s: “The Forgotten Man: A New History of the Great Depression” by Amity Shlaes; “FDR’s Folly: How Roosevelt and His New Deal Prolonged the Great Depression” by Jim Powell; and “New Deal or Raw Deal?: How FDR’s Economic Legacy Has Damaged America” by Burton W. Folsom Jr.

Next Up: “Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America’s Enemies” by M. Stanton Evans.

You sure can get an education about the dangers that our nation faces if you read a little. You learn things that were NEVER taught to you in school.


10 posted on 12/14/2012 8:43:34 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Ron C.

” - - - government workers that do little to nothing - - - “

If these “government workers” are Conservatives, then their doing nothing is just a tragic waste of our taxpayer dollars.

If these “government workers” are Liberals, then we are in deep cookies!!!!

Liberals are driven by a need to HELP.
Liberals believe that rich people do not need HELP.
Liberals believe that poor people do need HELP.
So the sooner the Liberals can make the rich people poor,
The sooner the Liberals can HELP them.


11 posted on 12/14/2012 9:13:57 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: norton

I just read Witness this summer. Our library system got me a copy, which was 60 years old.

It was 800 pages long, and it was fascinating.

It also shows the Commies have been at this a very long time.

Whittaker Chambers paid a trememndous price for being a winess, but he paid it, knowing how valuable freedom was.


12 posted on 12/14/2012 9:21:56 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: iowamark; All
ahhh.. the "pumpkin papers"..there goes Algier Hiss...

13 posted on 12/14/2012 9:41:13 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today; who can take your income & tax it all away..0Bama man can :)
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To: iowamark
"Conservatives discuss anti-communism (Whittaker Chambers' 'Witness' on CSPAN2 Saturday)"

I'm glad somebody on TV is talking about communism as a threat.  It's like communism is some kind of dead subject.  The Soviet Union fell, so communism is dead and gone.  And oh yeah, remember that crazy McCarthy guy who runied so many lives with his crazy right-wing knee jerk accusations?  Right.  Communists have taken over our education system, our major media centers, and now our government.  But the subject of communism as a threat to our democratic republic is a total nothingburger to the general American intelligencia. (or should I say, un-intelligencia)

We got a guy at work, a liberal, focused like a laser beam on the threat of an emgergence of right-wing Nazi-like facism in our government.  Communists have taken over the nation right under his nose, but he's still focused like a laser beam on the big threat of right-wing facism.  He says he's not worried about communists at all.  Brilliant fellow.


14 posted on 12/14/2012 11:22:33 PM PST by CaptainKrunch (Just give me my freedom. I'll provide my own security.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I believe it was a Crosley,not a Ford.


15 posted on 12/15/2012 4:57:02 PM PST by MistrX
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To: MistrX

LOL. Good memory, but you are mixing up communist Aliases and Cars. Alger Hiss testified in Congress that he knew Chambers as “George Crosley.”


16 posted on 12/15/2012 6:23:53 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I stand corrected.
Thank you.


17 posted on 12/16/2012 2:39:50 AM PST by MistrX
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To: iowamark

All 3 programs at the CSPAN video library:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/event/211887


18 posted on 12/16/2012 6:09:41 AM PST by iowamark
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