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Mike Huckabee blames getting God out of classroom for shootings
seattlepi.com ^ | December 14, 2012

Posted on 12/14/2012 9:28:51 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Americans should blame their schools, and removal of God from the classroom, for Friday’s murders of schoolchildren in Connecticut, according to former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, a 2008 Republican presidential candidate who is now a pundit and host on Fox News.

Huckabee did not mention guns, gun culture, or assault rifles in talking about the country’s latest mass killing, but said on Fox News:

“We ask why there is violence in our schools, but we have systematically removed God from our schools. Should we be surprised that schools would become places of carnage?”

Huckabee is a Baptist minister. As governor of Arkansas, he pardoned Maurice Clemmons, the Arkansas felon who went on to gun down in 2009 four Lakewood, Wash., police officers in cold blood. Clemmons was pardoned after he asked Huckabee to show compassion, vowed that he had changed his life since “the angel of death has visited and taken away my dear, sweet mother.”

Huckabee seemed to see church-state separation as responsible for the horrors Friday at an elementary school, where 18 grammar school pupils died.

“We’ve made it (school) a place where we don’t talk about eternity, life, what responsibility means, accountability — that we’re not going to have to be accountable to the police if they catch us, but one day we stand before, you know holy God in judgment,” said Huckabee. “If we don’t believe that, then we don’t fear that.”

As others were calling for a national discussion on guns, Huckabee said it is time to look upstairs.

“Maybe we ought to let (God) in on the front end, and we wouldn’t have to call Him up when it’s all said and done at the back end,” Huckabee argued.


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1 posted on 12/14/2012 9:28:57 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Huckabee nails it. I know the ‘RATS don’t want to hear it but he speaks the truth. The commie libs with their crocodile tears need to go tell it to the aCLU.


2 posted on 12/14/2012 9:35:55 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

When life is not sacred, then no life is sacred.

It’ that simple, and that sad.

(This message brought to you by Tonys Abortion shop. You create em, we decemate em.)


3 posted on 12/14/2012 9:37:44 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Tailgunner Joe

He’s right..I am not a big Huckabee fan but he’s right..schools teach children about gay marriage but refuse to teach them about God. Just look at what is going on right now, school after school taking out Christmas plays..we are removing God from everything..that is what is wrong with our society(Besides other things)people have NO value for human life anymore.


4 posted on 12/14/2012 9:39:20 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Mike, brother, you’re far more dead-on than you possibly can know.


5 posted on 12/14/2012 9:40:29 PM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I said the same thing today as I talked with people.

We’ve got to get God back into our schools.


6 posted on 12/14/2012 9:41:46 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

He’RIGHT. And not just out of classrooms-also out of public life,


7 posted on 12/14/2012 9:47:05 PM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: PA-RIVER

No fetus can beat us.


8 posted on 12/14/2012 9:50:42 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
It's not that they just took God out and left a vacuum.

They then filled the government schools with evil.

9 posted on 12/14/2012 9:51:09 PM PST by Tolkien (Grace is the Essence of the Gospel; Gratitude is the Essence of Ethics.)
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To: RightOnline
As an agnostic, I'd say that's as good an explanation as any.

Although correlation does not imply causation, there is no denying the fact that that was the point where both education and societal mores started to decline.

Whether is was the negative response of an actual benevolent God or the loss of civility and structure, something sure happened!

10 posted on 12/14/2012 9:52:13 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: Impala64ssa

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11 posted on 12/14/2012 9:55:05 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The liberals set the stage for these murders when they tossed God out of the classroom and replaced him with condoms, cucumbers and homosexual "marriage".

I heard that knucklehead who replaced Mike Savage whining about this tonight and asking "Where was God? How could he allow this to happen?" Sorry Jerry. The commie libs threw him out of the classroom many, many moons ago.

12 posted on 12/14/2012 9:56:06 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Chasing God out of the classroom sure didn’t usher in The Age of Reason. Saying prayers for those little kids and their families .


13 posted on 12/14/2012 9:56:29 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The same liberals who ask “Where was God” are the same ones who don’t believe in God in the first place. Atheists remove the Nativity scene from towns..remove Christmas plays from school because some are “offended.” This is what happens when God is removed from our lives..schools can discuss how awesome it is for a man to marry another man yet they refuse to say a school prayer in the morning


14 posted on 12/14/2012 9:58:48 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Tailgunner Joe
There is none is as blind as those who will no see.
15 posted on 12/14/2012 10:06:11 PM PST by oldbrowser (Put Obama in check, now.)
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To: doc1019

It is not getting God out of the classrooms, it getting God out of the culture. If we do not believe in God or an after-life, we don’t value life, our own or others’. There is no higher power than the state and if we don’t respect the state, which most of don’t, who and what do we respect? Who sets our moral compass?

That’s the problem with young people, no respect for anyone or anything, not even themselves. All that matters is the next good time, the next high.

People have been calling what happened today, “evil”, but what is “evil” if there is no God?

Politicizing this tragedy is just as evil as the shooting itself.


16 posted on 12/14/2012 10:06:39 PM PST by Eva
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To: Impala64ssa

Call 1-800-fetus-flush


17 posted on 12/14/2012 10:09:44 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The comments after that blog are disgusting and actually make the point that Huckabee is making, those people themselves are so removed from God that they don’t understand what He has meant to this country and the fabric of our society.


18 posted on 12/14/2012 10:10:42 PM PST by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: Tailgunner Joe

These pagan politicians and “educators” attempt to look and sound profound when they sagely intone, “Where was God when this man went on his rampage?”

God is wherever He went when He was given the bum’s rush and thrown out of our schools, courts, traditionally religious holidays and even many churches.

Since reading the book, “THE HARBINGER” and now re-reading it to better grasp the deep implications of what it is saying, I consider things like todays carnage in Connecticut another sign, another harbinger of what’s to become more and more common; unless and until the U.S.A. as a Nation repents and once more embraces our National Motto, “IN GOD WE TRUST.”

This is one time I fully agree with Huckabee, as far as he went.


19 posted on 12/14/2012 10:11:32 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Huckabee said exactly what I said to my husband, except I said that eliminated God from the culture, not just the schools. I’ve been thinking about this ever since the football player shot his girlfriend 9 times in the head and then turned the gun on himself. I was thinking about it in terms of the Black culture and the inner cities, but today reminded me that it the culture of the whole country.

Obama is evil, too.


20 posted on 12/14/2012 10:11:48 PM PST by Eva
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To: Tailgunner Joe

He will be laughed and ridiculed..... but I believe he is right


21 posted on 12/14/2012 10:13:24 PM PST by traumer
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To: Tailgunner Joe

More like Christian social interaction, education, justice and ethics and inspiration cleansed out of music, art and culture and replaced; all replaced with the opposite and named “multicultural” and “edgy.”

What is the opposite of Christianity? There will not be a void left with Leftists turn everything up-side-down. Is evil going to fill the void? How about Islam? Liberals are taking us back to the stone age.


22 posted on 12/14/2012 10:14:13 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I fail to understand why people try and blame the actions of an evil man on anyone or anything other than that. It is not God’s fault. It is not a lack of God in the classroom or anywhere else for that matter. People are capable of great evil blame the lack on this man’s heart and nothing else.


23 posted on 12/14/2012 10:17:35 PM PST by Nifster
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Obama care, sanctity of life

Oil, Vinegar

Abortion, Healthcare

Im seeing a pattern....


24 posted on 12/14/2012 10:21:47 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Tailgunner Joe

When are public schools teach young people that there is no God and they are nothing but highly(?) evolved animals. Why are you surprised when someone acts like an animal? All actions have unintended consequences! Very Sad day for humanity....


25 posted on 12/14/2012 10:39:12 PM PST by BillT (If you can not stand behind our military, you might as well stand in front of them!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

There wasn’t any mention of god in the classroom when I started school 70 years ago!


26 posted on 12/14/2012 10:50:47 PM PST by dalereed
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To: dalereed

“There wasn’t any mention of god in the classroom when I started school 70 years ago!”

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Well, there was for me when I started some 62 years ago, and it lasted all the way through to my baccalaureate service. This was in “godless” coastal California. Will wonders never cease?


27 posted on 12/14/2012 11:28:28 PM PST by 1lawlady (To G-d be the glory. Great things He has done!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The nation has been spiraling away from integrity and self reliance since the days of the Clinton administration with the help of the lame media. Anyone who thinks that God does not play a huge role in our society to our government are just foolish of not knowing how this nation was built by the founders. If we had a leader at the top level; bringing people together. versus constantly attacking a portion of the citizenry; who they claim to represent, people would be lifted up rather than wanting a pay back, a handout or a slice of the pie which they feel they deserve. When you have an outlook as it’s.. me me, selfish cowardly people do crazy things. Welcome to liberalism. The problem is there not owning firearms.


28 posted on 12/14/2012 11:30:33 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

When I went to school 60 years ago, we had prayer in the school, but nothing about God in the Pledge of Allegiance. Both were done every morning.


29 posted on 12/14/2012 11:31:11 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Tailgunner Joe

When we take God Out (of any place) it becomes godless (That is no God)
“But the wisdom that is from above is first pure,then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good, without partiality, and without partiality.”(James 3:17)]

Would to God these things would again be taught in all places!

“The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all nations that forget God.” (Psalm 9:17)

“If the foundations be destroyed, what shall the righteousness do!” (Psalm 11:3)

“Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD....(Psalm 33:12a)

“Righteousness exalteth a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people.” (Proverbs 14:34)

“By mercy,and truth equiqity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil)” (Proverbs 16:6)


30 posted on 12/14/2012 11:33:19 PM PST by Letmarch75 ( If a man knows the right way to live and does not live it, there is no greater coward).)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

It is not the schools responsibility to teach about Gd. It is the parents’. What did huckabee teach his kids? The one monster tortured and hung puppies. He’d get my “ most likely to shoot up a school” nomination.


31 posted on 12/14/2012 11:34:16 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

The nation’s schools should show a loyal allegiance to their own country and saying a pledge should be done. If you don’t have a united country; there’s no country period. Just because 1 or 2 don’t like it; doesn’t mean the founders want it suddenly changed as it has been done. One nation, under God.


32 posted on 12/14/2012 11:42:29 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: Eva

>> Politicizing this tragedy is just as evil as the shooting itself.

The anti-gun bastards are exploiting the massacred children.


33 posted on 12/14/2012 11:46:59 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Reeeeeelly????

Explain Cain .....


34 posted on 12/14/2012 11:49:30 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Yaelle

>> It is not the schools responsibility to teach about Gd.

You sound like a libertarian... And I didn’t say Libertarian.

I agree it’s not necessarily the schools responsibility to “teach” about God, but neither should the schools actively disassociate Godliness from education. That said, I’m getting tired of the atheistic, Leftwing bullcrap that’s facilitating the demonic destruction of our Country.


35 posted on 12/14/2012 11:57:54 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Christie at the beach

>> One nation, under God... etc...

Exactly!


36 posted on 12/14/2012 11:59:25 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: 1lawlady
I went all through school in Los Angeles and didn't have any religion pushed in the classroom.
37 posted on 12/15/2012 12:06:47 AM PST by dalereed
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To: dalereed
I went all through school in Los Angeles and didn't have any religion pushed in the classroom.

It is 2012 now, many years later, and California is like a conservative's paradise, I am from Texas and said the Lord's prayer everyday, and the pledge of allegiance, and Texas is conservative heck!

Is that what you are trying to say?

38 posted on 12/15/2012 12:13:15 AM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: eddie willers
The Federal apparatus and the communist Godless teachers unions have infected the educational system nationwide.

We are disease ridden, and need to seek a cure.

39 posted on 12/15/2012 12:13:24 AM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Huckster got this one right. We need daily prayer in America’s public schools plus I would start off the day with 20 minutes of jumping jacks and calisthenics. Not that any of today’s edumacators care about that.

Gay and feminist agendas in and (daily) prayer out summarizes it


40 posted on 12/15/2012 2:02:36 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
God brings virtue into a society. Godlessness removes it.

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

John Adams

41 posted on 12/15/2012 2:25:19 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: dalereed
I started in 1948 in a Public School. We had a flag raising every morning. We said the Pledge of Allegiance and the Lord's Prayer. Our Christmas plays had the baby Jesus in a manger etc etc.

Our pioneers held Town Meetings in the churches. It was there or the saloon.

42 posted on 12/15/2012 2:27:22 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Salvation

The very same thought went through my mind. I also hear Mark Levin say something similar. Gun control will do nothing to stop this violence. Only the law-abiding will adhere to gun control laws. The libs are stupid as stupid can be.

When God is removed, then so is His protective hedge. It is a spiritual battle and the forces of evil have been unleashed.


43 posted on 12/15/2012 3:19:19 AM PST by Catsrus
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To: dalereed
There wasn’t any mention of god in the classroom when I started school 70 years ago!

I have made that point before Dale. I started public school in 1951 and graduated in 1963, in conservative southern Missouri and the only time I heard a prayer was at high school graduation, one prayer in 12 years.

It was not that school was hostile toward religion, I never heard anything negative about it. Parents that wanted their kids to learn about God took them to church.

44 posted on 12/15/2012 4:02:26 AM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Most of the lib sites are reporting Huckabee’s comments on this as “outrageous.”

I’m sure they’re outraged, as he is calling out their world view.


45 posted on 12/15/2012 4:41:13 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What Christian doesn’t believe this? The correlation between “God out of schools” and the demise of decent society is apparent.


46 posted on 12/15/2012 4:47:28 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Certainly a contributor.

But that wasn’t the case in the Amish school here in Nickel Mines, Pa., not far from me. Religious teachings are an integral part of their schooling. And yet, this same horror was visited upon their classroom.

The amount of violence that children are exposed to these days via video games puts them in another world. I have never had them in my home.

Many causes, turning away from God high among them.


47 posted on 12/15/2012 4:56:49 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Gene Eric

You have it exactly right. Schools are not there to teach scripture. It is the complete absence of anything remotely related to religion or God that is notable. Religion is shunned. We went from Christmas plays to holiday plays to winter plays. We removed God from the pledge of allegiance (or removed the pledge in it’s entirety).

I am not an overly religious person, but it still provides an important moral foundation. It doesn’t even have to be Christian, or Jewish, or anything specific. It is a matter of including those core values in our society, whether it is schools, government, entertainment, etc.

The fact is guns have been around for hundreds of years now, and modern weapons for nearly a century, yet these mass shootings are a fairly new thing. Something else has changes, and it is a lack of moral thought in our society and a politically correct treatment of sick people that are given meds instead of being removed. Our people have become weak.


48 posted on 12/15/2012 5:00:58 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

As I understand it, the shooter was autistic which means he had no sense of God.


49 posted on 12/15/2012 5:12:08 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: Christie at the beach

We all like to say “One Nation, Under God,” like I used to listen to John Wayne beautifully saying our Pledge of Allegiance.

Actually, to be accurate, there is no comma between One Nation and Under God.

It is a good thing, I think, to say ONE NATION UNDER GOD in a complete phrase. Seems like it also gives more honor to God to say it that way.


50 posted on 12/15/2012 5:12:31 AM PST by YepYep (We've just GOT to love Jesus enough to LISTEN to Him, and Do what He Says)
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